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Jeff Hack

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Apr 7, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/7/98
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We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?

Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility

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Apr 8, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/8/98
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In article <jeff_hack-070...@macf105.svl.trw.com>, Jeff Hack wrote:
>We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
>terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?

For serial connection: Hyperterminal
For TCP/IP connection: telnet

Both these came with my Alpha -- not sure if they're also packaged
with Intel versions.

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Frank da Cruz

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Apr 8, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/8/98
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In article <jeff_hack-070...@macf105.svl.trw.com>,

Jeff Hack <jeff...@smtp.svl.trw.com> wrote:
: We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
: terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?
:
Kermit 95:

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html

offers VT320 emulation over serial, TCP/IP Telnet and Rlogin connections,
and (if you have SuperLAT installed) LAT, and (if you have PATHWORKS
installed) CTERM (or LAT), with totally flexible & comprehensive key
mapping, 80/132 columns, a perfect VTTEST score, Kermit and XYZMODEM file
transfer, and complete scriptability. It's available for NT on the Alpha
as well as on Intel-based PCs.

Watch comp.protocols.kermit.announce for announcement of a major new release,
probably later today.

- Frank

Dan O'Reilly

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Apr 8, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/8/98
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At 11:30 AM 4/7/98 -0800, Jeff Hack wrote:
>We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
>terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?

There are several terminal emulators available, depending on what you want
to pay and what you want to do.

My specific favorites:

- Free terminal emulator: TeraTerm Pro. Very faithful emulation, fast, free.
- X-based windowing: Hummingbird Exceed. Excellent package, definately not
free (about $250 or so, I think). If you're using a LAN, this is the
way to go.


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kka...@progis.de

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>
> We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
> terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?
>

If you have a tcp/ip network connecting both computers, I'd recommend
CRT from Van Dyke Technologies, Inc. www.vandyke.com

It's a commercial product with a 30 day trial license. It does full VT1xx
emulation including the (graphical) charset and the keyboard mapping.

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pchow

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Apr 8, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/8/98
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Jeff,

As an employee of Attachmate, I can heartily recommend the market leading VT
emulator product: KEA! 340 (VT340 - text and Regis, sixel graphics) or 420
(VT420 and lower - text only) for Windows NT. KEA! is the internal
corporate standard of Digital and is used in thousands of major corporations
worldwide.

We support Windows NT both Intel and Alpha native versions.

The feature list is comprehensive and thorough providing full support for:
- automation via macro language and APIs (DDE, OLE, HLLAPI)
- configurability (fully customizable keyboard maps, menus, colors,
settings, etc)
- productivity enhancers such as on-screen button pads which can be
programmatically set to dynamically change depending on the application or
form on the screen - great for repetitive tasks or novice users

Finally, our products are designed to fully minimize the installation and
support 'hidden costs' frequently found with 'free' or 'cheap'
non-commercial products. We provide included with our KEA! products:
- full silent administrative installs
- install wizards
- NetWizard - a full network management application that will deploy,
meter, and inventory software and hardware

For further information and to order or download an eval copy please go to:
http://www.attachmate.com/osg/

Thanks,
Paulo

pau...@attachmate.com

Bruce S. Skinner

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Apr 8, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/8/98
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"pchow" <paulo...@plsplsnospamme.geocities.com> writes:

> As an employee of Attachmate, I can heartily recommend the market leading VT
> emulator product: KEA! 340 (VT340 - text and Regis, sixel graphics

> ...
> The feature list is comprehensive and thorough ...
The VT340 does Tektronix 4010 emulation - does attachmate?

regards :-)
BruceS

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Brian Steele

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Apr 8, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/8/98
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Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility wrote:

>
> In article <jeff_hack-070...@macf105.svl.trw.com>, Jeff Hack wrote:
> >We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
> >terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?
>
> For serial connection: Hyperterminal
> For TCP/IP connection: telnet

The latest version of Hyperterminal works with TELNET as well.

Both don't seem to work too well in a production environment. I use the
VT320 emulator that's provided with PATHWORKS 7. Seems to be the most
stable of the lot (I wonder why, LOL). Some of my collegues use
PowerTerm, but one of them reported to me this morning that they're
having trouble with PowerTerm and random disconnections from the VAX - a
no-no when you're connected to the billing system at the time.


HTH,
Brian Steele
IS Manager
GRENTEL

bgInc. -- Choice is overrated

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Apr 8, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/8/98
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In article <1998040813261...@progis.de>, kka...@progis.de writes...

>>
>> We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
>> terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?
>>
>
>If you have a tcp/ip network connecting both computers, I'd recommend
>CRT from Van Dyke Technologies, Inc. www.vandyke.com

Or put linux on the PCs for FREE and flush the bill gates shoved 'Default
Operating System'!


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Adri Koopman

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Apr 9, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/9/98
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jeff...@smtp.svl.trw.com (Jeff Hack) wrote:

>We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
>terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?

We're using WRQ's Reflection 4 (AKA Reflecttion for ReGIS Graphics)
which supports TCP/IP as well as DEC's LAT protocol

Adri Koopman email: akoo...@euronet.nl
Markgraaf, Amsterdam tel: +31-20-5641411
The Netherlands fax: +31-20-6962303

Rodent of Unusual Size

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Apr 9, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/9/98
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Jeff Hack wrote:
>
> We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
> terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?

Personally, I strongly favour Reflection from WRQ, Inc.
<http://www.wrq.com/>. I have no commercial interest
in WRQ or Reflection other than being pleased with their
product.

#ken P-)}

Ken Coar <http://Web.Golux.Com/coar/>
Apache Group member <http://www.apache.org/>
"Apache Server for Dummies" <http://Web.Golux.Com/coar/ASFD/

Andrew Douglas

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Apr 9, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/9/98
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Try SmarTerm Enterprise Suite from Persoft (www.persoft.com). It has the
easiest set up for X-Windows I've seen. It's VT emulation is pretty good
too with scalable fonts, front end scripting/macros and excellent drag
and drop file transfer from host to PC using FTP.

Reflection from WRQ is OK too, although the X-window stuff is a bit more
tricky to install and file transfers are a bit more convoluted requiring
some executables on the host-side.

Andrew

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Donald G. Marchlenski

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Apr 9, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/9/98
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Check out http://www.tucows.com/

Look under the Network Tools or Internet Tools areas. I have found QvT/Term to
be quite usable for telnet.

Paul Repacholi ( prep )

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Apr 10, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/10/98
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I'll add a few free points to Frank's words.

Kermit can actualy do VT100. Run monitor on many terminal packages
and weep.

You can READ it. Yes, I'm sure many others use newer fonts, but...
It will do a lot more, file xfer, logging... And for all but M$
lozers, it's free. But hey, if you waste you $$ at the gates of darkness,
then Columbia seems a far more deserving cause.

Oh, and unless it changes, the licence scheme is nice and simple.
One manual = the licence.

Plus it can deal with what ever evil crap mapping the PC industry
dishes up this week.

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1 Crescent Rd.,
erepa...@cc.curtin.edu.au Kalamunda,
+61 (08) 9257-1001 Western Australia. 6076

Daniel Esbensen

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Apr 11, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/11/98
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Hi,

Our company did quite a bit of searching for a good/solid VT220 emulator to
connect to our OpenVMS systems. Our choice was CRT from:

http://www.vandyke.com/

It is very solid -- we order over 1000 copies so far for various customers.
The price is less than $30/copy (much less when you buy in quantity).
There is a 30-day evaluation too.

Dan E.
(Not affiliated with Vandyke -- but a pleased customer)


Wayne W. Scott

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Apr 12, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/12/98
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Daniel Esbensen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Our company did quite a bit of searching for a good/solid VT220 emulator to
> connect to our OpenVMS systems. Our choice was CRT from:
>
> http://www.vandyke.com/
>
> It is very solid -- we order over 1000 copies so far for various customers.
> The price is less than $30/copy (much less when you buy in quantity).
> There is a 30-day evaluation too.
>
> Dan E.

We have CRT where I work. What I remember from a few
months ago is, the first time I tried to use it I could not get
the keypad to work with VMS editors.
Perhaps I needed to set some options first; I don't know.
I tried Term Term Pro, which did what I wanted right away,
and I have not tried CRT since.

Does CRT start in VT100 mode by default?

Thanks,
Wayne


Ronald Milen

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Apr 12, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/12/98
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On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:30:17 -0800, jeff...@smtp.svl.trw.com (Jeff
Hack) wrote:

>We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
>terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?

Jeff,

We've been using KEA term & have been very happy with it.

Ron Milen

Veli Körkkö

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Apr 13, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/13/98
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Brian Steele wrote:

> The latest version of Hyperterminal works with TELNET as well.
>
> Both don't seem to work too well in a production environment. I use the
> VT320 emulator that's provided with PATHWORKS 7. Seems to be the most
> stable of the lot (I wonder why, LOL). Some of my collegues use
> PowerTerm, but one of them reported to me this morning that they're
> having trouble with PowerTerm and random disconnections from the VAX - a
> no-no when you're connected to the billing system at the time.
>
> HTH,
> Brian Steele
> IS Manager
> GRENTEL

Well, if disconnects are problem to you, I would enable Virtual terminal feature.
To use
this one has to load VTA0: device using

$ mc sysgen connect vta0/driver=ttdriver/noadapter !!!VAX
$ mc sysman io connect vta0/driver=sys$ttdriver/noadapter !!!Alpha

and include approriarite in the startup file.
and for inbound telnet sessions (assuming UCX as TCPIP stuff)

$ ucx set conf comm/remote=virtual
$ ucx set comm/remote=virtual
$ ucx disable service telnet
$ ucx enable service telnet

and occasional hiccups on the network should be minor concern now. TTY_TIMEOUT
controls the length of reconn period.

I also use PowerTerm. Seems that Powerterm sometimes hangs. On the other hand,
Reflection seems to be awfully resource hoggy and very slow to start.

_veli


Brian Steele

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Apr 13, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/13/98
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Veli Körkkö wrote:
> Well, if disconnects are problem to you, I would enable Virtual terminal feature.

Ow! Against our security practices.

Brian

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Daniel Esbensen

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Apr 13, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/13/98
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Hi,

Using crt, to make the keypad work as expected:

options-->session-->emulation-->keypad-->VT220

Also, CRT defaults to whatever you edit the session called DEFAULT to be.
We use VT220 emulation, 30 rows, 80 columns, VT220 keyboard mapping.

Anyway...no bugs found yet in CRT -- after over a year of use -- nice
product.
http://www.vandyke.com/

Till later,

Dan E.
(No affiliation with Vandyke -- just a happy customer)


Dan O'Reilly

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Apr 13, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/13/98
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How does it do for things like mapping the keypad for use in, for example,
EDT? That's my real benchmark for how well an emulator does...

--

Daniel Esbensen

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Apr 14, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/14/98
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Hi,

CRT works great with the EDT keypad. A nice emulation. And, you can remap
the entire keyboard as you wish too.

Till later,

Dan E.
(not affiliated with http://www.Vandyke.com)


Jeff Hack

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Apr 15, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/15/98
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Thanks for the info, by the way are you a fan of "The Princess Bride"?

In article <352C9C21...@Star.ZK-Oh.DEC.Com>, Rodent of Unusual Size
<Co...@Star.ZK-Oh.DEC.Com> wrote:

> Jeff Hack wrote:
> >
> > We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
> > terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?
>

Joseph J. Ambrose

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Apr 23, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/23/98
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Gotta be Reflection 4 ( v6 is now out, I think)

Joseph Ambrose
NT Network Administrator /
Open VMS System Manager
The Conference Board
amb...@conference-board.org

Brian Steele wrote in message <352B81...@caribsurf.com>...


>Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility wrote:
>>

>> In article <jeff_hack-070...@macf105.svl.trw.com>, Jeff Hack


wrote:
>> >We need to connect PCs running Windows NT to A VAX running VMS. What
>> >terminal emulator is available? How do we do this?
>>

>> For serial connection: Hyperterminal
>> For TCP/IP connection: telnet
>

Axel Küster 2

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Apr 24, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/24/98
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Hi,

the best i扉e found till now (i know, thats from my own point of view!!) is
really Reflection.
And if you should use a serial line connection to the VMS, look at the tool.
for Filetransfer, called VAXLINK2. The way, you can install the software over
a serial line is really great. And it works even if you try to tranfer VMS
savesets over a normal modem line!

Axel

k...@ostalb.netsurf.de
k...@bitbyte.com

Joseph J. Ambrose schrieb:

> Gotta be Reflection 4 ( v6 is now out, I think)
>
> Joseph Ambrose
> NT Network Administrator /
> Open VMS System Manager
> The Conference Board
> amb...@conference-board.org
>
> Brian Steele wrote in message <352B81...@caribsurf.com>...
> >Dr Ivan D Reid, muSR Facility wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <jeff_hack-070...@macf105.svl.trw.com>, Jeff Hack

> >The latest version of Hyperterminal works with TELNET as well.

..........

wetboy

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Apr 25, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/25/98
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Joseph J. Ambrose <joseph.j...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
: Gotta be Reflection 4 ( v6 is now out, I think)

By far the best I've tried (and I've tried many) is PC320
by White Pine Software. It was available for free a few
years ago as part of an evaluation version of Exodus, an
X-windows simulator that runs on PC's. For one thing, PC320
emulates the LK numeric and alternate keypad functions
perfectly, except for the ',' key, which does not exist on
the numeric keypad of PC keyboards.

-- Wetboy

Andy Parker

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Apr 26, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/26/98
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I have the same problem as Jeff but for WFWG PCs.
Does anybody know how to get the WFWG Telnet client to talk to UCX 4.2
on an Alpha running VMS 6.2 ?

Andy Parker, Team Leader Information Systems, Furness College
Work :- andyp.1008...@dialnet.co.uk
Work :- an...@furness.ac.uk
Home :- an...@netcomuk.co.uk

ade...@mnsi.net

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Apr 26, 1998, 7:00:00 AM4/26/98
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Try a program called PowerTerm. They have versions for both Win3.X and
Win95. I am using the win3.x version under os/2 to connect to my Alpha
server2100 without any problems.

Also WRQ Reflections does a very good emulation.

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