edt-like editors for unix
Steve Harris
I'm writing this for my friend whom isn't online; He's got a Dec Unix
box and hates vi, and is looking for some *free* edt-ish alternatives.
I found an old copy of jed (v0.96), and told him about gnu emacs edt
compatibility mode.
My questions are these:
1.) Are there more current versions of jed? It used to be developed &
available at amy.tch.harvard.edu, but that seems to no longer be the
case.
2.) There was once a text editor called "ed" that supposedly
faithfully emulated edt under Unix - is that still around? Where?
3.) Are there any other free edt-like text editors out there?
Thanks!
-Steve Harris
Rod Eldridge
>2.) There was once a text editor called "ed" that supposedly
>faithfully emulated edt under Unix - is that still around? Where?
ED is an EDT look-alike editor that is portable to many platforms.
ED is free software, see the file COPYING for details.
ED is available from riceng.rice.edu, username rhrsoft, password rhrsoft.
I've complied ed sucessufully and use it on a regular basis on Ultrix,
Digital Unix, SGIs and SUNs.
--
Rod Eldridge | Iowa State University | r...@iastate.edu
515-294-7498 Ames, Iowa 50011 http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rod/
John E. Davis
wrote:
: 1.) Are there more current versions of jed? It used to be developed &Yes, it is still being developed. The latest version is 0.97-13 and is
available from space.mit.edu in pub/davis/jed.
There have been many, many changes since 0.96 despite the fact that the
verson number has not changed much. Here are the changes (read from the
bottom up):
Changes since 0.97-12
0. Misc bug fixes. Nothing major.
1. New intrinsic variable: REPLACE_PRESERVE_CASE. If non-zero, replace
functions will attempt to match the case of the new string with the
replaced one. This only happens if the two strings have the same
length.
2. Maximum keyword length for syntax highlighting has been raised from 16
characters to 20 characters.
3. C-mode improvements
4. Big news for wjed users: Luchesar Ionkov seems to have fixed the
subprocess support under Windows. There have also been a few other
wjed bug fixes.
5. jed's mailer now works properly with mailx. Someday I need to
integrate Eric's sendmail patches.
Changes since 0.97-11
1. Xjed was rejecting command line arguments-- now fixed.
2. Repeat factor now works for `@' type keybindings (macros).
3. New mousex.sl (jed running in an Xterm--- NOT Xjed).
4. Misc bug fixes.
5. More improvements to Windows jed (wjed), specifically pull down menus
and shell commands are available. Again, this is due to Luchesar
Ionkov.
Note: Under MSWINDOWS, os.sl loads a different file (mswmouse.sl)
to define mouse actions more suitable to a 2 button mouse. I
suspect that this file should be modified to make the mouse behave
more like other Windows programs. e.g., drag mouse to define a
region then click a menu item to act on the region. Any
volunteers?
Changes since 0.97-10
0. MS-Windows version of jed now available. This is called `wjed.exe'.
Right now, it is rather primative with no support for menus or shell
interaction. Of course the mouse works with the middle button
simulated by the alt key (see jed/doc/mouse.txt). Thanks to
lio...@sf.cit.bg (Luchesar Ionkov)) for the patches. (He also sent
me patches for shell interaction but they would not compile under BCC
3.1).
1. There were many complaints about change number 4 in 0.97-6:
4. XJed: Now when the meta (alt) key is used in
conjunction with a non-alphanumeric key such as `{',
the character is simply returned. If this creates a
backward compatibility problem or appears too
restrictive, please let me know.
Apparantly, this is too restrictive so I have removed the restriction.
Email me for for a simple way around this lifting of the restriction.
2. Directories with names ending in ~ were not getting expanded properly.
3. Slang Version 0.99-19 is now required. This implements the new
intrinsic function `strcompress'.
4. QNX support added.
5. Support for an alternate set of keywords added. The C-mode defines some
of these keywords such as `exit', `malloc', `strlen', etc... Use
something like:
set_color ("keyword1", "green", "white");
to set the colors for this set.
6. A couple of MSDOS jed bugs found. One affects the keyboard and the
other fix corrects a bad regular expression when compiling using bcc.
7. idl mode enhanced with indentation.
Changes since 0.97-9
1. Small bug in cmode.sl dealing with C++ style comments at first line of
buffer corrected.
2. Syntax highlighting problem fixed.
3. Is shell.sl finally fixed under MSDOS? I think so.
4. Tiny change to mutekeys.sl.
5. jed -secure args.... will run jed in secure mode. This means that
access to the shell will be denied.
6. Tiny bug affecting slang_mode corrected. (Very rare case).
7. First attempt at a brief mode. If you want to try it out, add:
() = evalfile ("brief");
to your jed.rc file. Currently this file is only for MSDOS and OS2.
8. Better EDT support for jed386.exe. You will need GOLD.COM which is a
TSR that maps the Numlock key to GOLD.
9. Low level keyboard interface for OS/2 and MSDOS re-written. Let me
know if there are any inconsistencies. I have been unable to test it
under OS/2.
10. Is dired fixed for OS/2??
11. bibtex mode added (Author: Carsten Tinggaard Nielsen,
ting...@iesd.auc.dk)
Changes since 0.97-8
1. html syntax highlighting mode added.
2. New functions: _autoload and _add_completion. See function
documentation. Briefly, these permit slightly faster loading.
3. Typos corrected in shell.sl, emacs.sl, and dired.sl.
4. Small correction for file name expansion under VMS.
5. Ran purify on source code and fixed about two bad memory references.
6. new nroff mode
Changes since 0.97-7
1. The F1-F12 keys may now be used with jed386.exe and edt.sl. See
jed/doc/jed_faq.txt for more on EDT mode and jed386.exe.
2. The `untab' function has been fixed. I broke it in 0.97-7 (see below).
3. Somewhat nasty bug fixed that affected jed386.exe.
4. Unix and VMS: If the environment variable `COLORTERM' is defined, jed
will automatically set the variable USE_ANSI_COLORS to a non-zero value.
This feature is only available when compiled against slang version
0.99-14. Patches have also been sent in to the maintainer of the
color xterm `rxvt' to automatically set this variable. Incidently, if
you are using `color_xterm', I suggest that you try out `rxvt'.
5. New dired.sl and shell.sl courtesy of ole...@weber.me.queensu.ca (Mark Olesen)
Changes since 0.97-6
-1. Mouse support added to OS/2 version. (Thanks to John Burnell.
<jo...@whio.grace.cri.nz>)
0. ``Expansion hook'' added. This hook is called upon TAB completion to
preprocess the file before completion. The default definition of this
function expands environment variables when the variable is preceeded
by a dollar sign, e.g., $HOME. This function has not been defined for
VMS since VMS already has this feature built in.
Under Unix, this function also expands ~name to the login directory of
the user `name'. The expansion only takes place when the TAB key is
pressed.
The new intrinsic: set_expansion_hook may be used to change the hook.
1. Under Unix, the function `get_passwd_info' may be used to return
information about a specified user such as login dir, shell, etc...
2. TeX mode highlighting fixes:
a. words containing accents now handled properly
b. The TeX special characters `&_^#' are now colored as `operators'.
c. Braces `{}' are colored as delimiters.
3. A prefix argument to the `untab' function will cause spaces to be
converted into tabs.
4. Page up/down commands modified slightly to give appear more intuitive.
5. Misc bug fixes including:
a. Parenthesis matching now works when `(` is also a comment delimiter.
6. Pasting using the mouse has changed slightly. Previously, text would
be pasted at the position of the mouse. Now, it is pasted at the
position of the cursor. This seems more intuitive.
In addition, the editing position is restored to what it was before
dragging text into the cutbuffer. Again, this is more intuitive and
more closely follows the Xterm usage.
7. In C-mode, a if a line is preceeded by a line that ends with \, it is
indented to the first column. This is useful for continuation lines.
8. Better native support for SunOS keyboards (pageup/down/home/end).
9. The function `shell_cmd' has been changed to return the exit code of the
subprocess. Previously, it returned nothing.
10. idl mode added. Actually, only syntax highlighting is defined. This
mode takes effect on .pro files.
Changes since 0.97-5
0. New routines for adding keywords. These include:
add_keyword, define_keywords
See shmode.sl for an example. Basically, this file implements syntax
highlighting for Unix sh and csh files.
1. Bug fixed in filename completion.
2. Kevin Humphreys auctex-for-jed package has been integrated into the
source. Thanks Kevin.
3. Popular combinations of slang functions have been combined to create
new functions. These include:
bol (); skip_white (); ------------------> bol_skip_white ();
down (1); ------------------> down_1 ();
go_down (1); ------------------> go_down_1 ();
up (1); ------------------> up_1 ();
go_up (1); ------------------> go_up_1 ();
These load twice as fast and use half as much memory. If I make them
into intrinsics, they will execute twice as fast. Jed slang
programmers are encouraged to use these.
4. XJed: Now when the meta (alt) key is used in conjunction with a
non-alphanumeric key such as `{', the character is simply returned.
If this creates a backward compatibility problem or appears too
restrictive, please let me know.
5. XJed: XJed now will never read a file from stdin. This means that the
*stdin* buffer will nolonger appear when it is started from a menu by
the window manager.
Changes since 0.97-4a
0. A COMPLETE rewrite of all the indentation routines. The new routines
are much more customizable through the use of syntax tables. Now, the
C mode is completely written in S-Lang.
New features:
* Now much easier to add support for new languages.
* ESC-q will format a comment if it is in the canonical form:
/*
* This is a C comment in
* the canonical form
* Notice how each line
* begins with a `*'.
*/
* `goto_match' now works in both directions.
* New C-mode functions:
c_end_of_function : ESC Ctrl-E
c_top_of_function : ESC Ctrl-A
c_mark_function : ESC Ctrl-H
1. The function `whatline' has been renamed to `what_line' for consistency
with other names.
2. New function: translate_region. This function is capable of modifying
all characters in a region according to a lookup table. This is useful
for converting buffers between various character sets. See the new
version of jed/lib/rot13.sl for an example of its usage.
3. New functionality: yank-pop. This is implemented in jed/lib/yankpop.sl.
Unfortunately this is not available on 16bit systems. This means if you
use jed.exe you cannot use it. However, jed386.exe is a 32bit
executable so it is available.
If you do not know what yank-pop is already, do not worry too much.
You should not notice its presence. However, if you do, hopefully you
will welcome jed's emulation of it. This was added to improve the
emacs emulation. See jed/doc/yankpop.txt for a simple discussion.
4. New intrinsic variable _jed_version added. This variable is an integer
that represents the version number. For 0.97-5, it has the value 9705.
For 0.97-11, it will have the value 9711 and so on.
5. A bug in jed386.exe was corrected. This bug was responsible for
some keyboard lockups.
Changes since 0.97-4
1. Intrinsic function documentation improved.
2. Source code should now compiled without specifying VAX compatability
on ALPHA/AXP systems running OpenVMS. Use the deccmake.com files to
create jed & slang.
Changes since 0.97-3
1. New intrinsic functions:
set_color_object: Associate a foreground/background color pair with
an integer, e.g., set_color_object (31, "green", "red");
set_column_colors: Allows one to display the columns of a buffer in
different colors. For example:
set_color_object (31, "green", "white");
set_color_object (32, "red", "white");
set_column_colors (31, 1, 40);
set_column_colors (32, 41, 80);
Display columns 1 to 40 in green/white and columns 41 to 80 in
red on white. This operates on a buffer by buffer basis does
not work when there is syntax highlighting already associated
with the buffer.
This function is only useful when the buffer consists of data
organized in columns, e.g., columns of numbers, dired mode,
rmail mode, etc...
str_replace: replace substrings in strings
2. In XJed, set_color("normal", "foreground-color", "background-color"),
now works. This means it is nolonger necessary to mess with
.Xdefaults to set the background color.
3. Small problem with expansion of symbolic links fixed.
4. It is now possible to set the color used for messages and errors.
This is accomplished by using, e.g.,
set_color ("message", "blue", "white");
set_color ("error", "red", "white");
5. A problem with info failing under VMS has been fixed.
Changes since 0.97-2
1. GPM mouse support under Linux. This provides jed with complete mouse
support (dragging, etc...) under the Linux console (See mouse.txt).
2. Mouse support under MSDOS. Read doc/mouse.txt for information.
3. Fixed a keymap problem in Xjed (specifically for Ctrl-_ and Function
keys).
Changes since 0.97-1
1. `:' key now overwrites instead of inserts in overwrite mode
2. Fixed tiny problem with indentation of preprocessor lines when
the colon is pressed.
3. Corrected the omission of the closing `"' in abbrmisc.sl.
4. Problem with replace_across_buffer_files corrected.
5. If a file is edited for which one does not have write permission,
the buffer is made read-only.
6. Termcap nolonger used. JED is now exclusively terminfo.
Changes since 0.97-0
1. Fixed Xjed problem of cutting and pasting with other X applications.
This file documents changes and new features found in JED
Changes since 0.96-2:
-20. A bug introduced by `-18' beow that prevented searches from working
properly when using a macro has been fixed.
-19. `dired' modified such that ^K nolonger runs the function
`dired_kill_line'. Instead, one must do:
define dired_hook ()
{
local_unsetkey ("^K");
local_setkey ("dired_kill_line", "^K");
}
See jed.rc where this is performed.
-18. RETURN key may be used to continue searches. Also, matches are
highlighted.
-17. Variable `No_Backups' added to control whether or not JED is to
create backup files.
-16. Command line argument parsing modified (in site.sl) to make it easier
to write non-interactive scripts, e.g.,
jed -script my-script.sl file1 file2 ...
Basically, `-script' simply loads the next argument (my_script.sl).
It is up to the script file to interpret the remaining arguments.
See doc/script.txt for more info.
-15. Trivial modification that allow JED to become a GNU-info reader
by using:
`alias info jed -f info_reader' (Unix csh)
$ info :== jed -f info_reader (VMS)
-14. A VMS bug fixed. Specifically, the getkey AST is now disabled while
the main thread is accessing the keyboard buffer.
-13. NEW abbrev mode. This is a major rewrite of the old abbrev mode. See
jed/doc/abbrev.txt for details.
-12. `read_string_with_completion' added to read a string in the mini buffer
using a list of strings for completion.
-11. Major change in S-Lang library removes the need for functions such as
`free_array'. As a result, this function has been removed.
-10. abbrev mode. This differs from `dabbrev' in the sense that you can
define global and local abbreviations and use them. The function
`toggle_abbrev' may be used to turn the mode on/off. See abbrev.sl
for details.
-9. mousex.sl package adds mouse routines to any terminal using the XTerm
client mouse protocol. Such terminals include the Linux console
running selection as well as XTerm itself. Note: this could be made
available across a dialup line from a PC using MS-Kermit, Procomm,
etc... if someone would write the appropriate mouse TSR.
-8. Added `tex_ldots' binding that converts three `.' to \ldots.
-7. `replace_across_buffer_files' added. This function allows the user
to replace a string across all buffers attached to a file. It is
interactive.
-6. Book marks added: `bkmrk_goto_mark' and `bkmrk_set_mark'
These functions allow the user to set up to 10 bookmarks (0-9)
and return to a previously set book mark from any buffer.
These marks are implemented using new jed intrinsics:
`user_mark_buffer' : returns buffer name associtated with mark
`goto_user_mark' : goto position specified by mark
`create_user_mark' : returns a mark at the current position
-5. Automatic detection of ``non-native'' line endings. On Unix, if a
file is read in with ^Ms at the end of lines, it is flagged such that
writing out the file will preserve the line ending attributes. A `C'
will appear on the status line to indicate this fact. On DOS, etc...
if a file is read in without the ^M, it is flagged and an `L' will
appear on the status line. Use the function `toggle_crmode'
to change the attribute.
-4A. New ways added to facilitate associating modes with files:
a. add_mode_for_extension ("c", "c++");
This asscoiates c_mode with a file named something.c++.
b. If top line of file contains something like: -*- mode -*-
Note that in both cases the mode argument must omit the `_mode' part
of the name. In fact, all modes now have names that end in `_mode'.
-4B. `fortran' and `dcl' have been renamed `fortran_mode' and `dcl_mode'.
-3. C mode indenting improved.
-2. Writing to terminal under VMS SIGNIFICANTLY improved. Basically I
just bypassed the VAXC buffered stdio routines in favor of my own.
This might improve performance for Unix systems as well.
-1. Emacs style completion added-- press tab to show completions, press
space to cycle through them. Note that pressing PageUp/Down keys
will scroll the completion buffer from the minibuffer.
0. Bug fixes
1. Massive restructuring. Keymaps, Searching, and Terminal I/O moved to
S-Lang.
2. color syntax highlighting in FORTRAN, TeX, and C modes.
3. TeX mode enhanced--- more to come.
4. ``menu'' bar can now be hidden-- see jed.rc.
5. More hooks: c_mode_hook, tex_mode_hook, text_mode_hook, wrap_hook
6. Better documentation on hooks (see doc/hooks.txt).
7. showkey binding changed to `Ctrl-H k'. Also rectangle commands are
now bound in emacs.sl to emacs bindings.
8. Mute (Dead or accent) key support added. See jed.rc
9. gzipped info file support added for MSDOS
10. Alt key processing for X-Windows fixed.
11. Significant additions to dired, e.g, `~' flags all backup files.
12. Visible bell add to systems that support it (Xjed, pc and OS/2,
Linux, etc...).
Changes since 0.96-1:
1. bug fix regarding regular expressions
2. Indentation of data statment in fortran mode fixed.
3 Documentation is improving....
4. dabbrev mode added (ESC / expands current word based on other
words in the buffer.)
5. Now possible to control Xjed syntax highlighting from .Xdefaults file.
6. Improvements to S-Lang ==> improvements to JED
7. rmail.sl: added `Rmail_Dont_Reply_To' variable to suppress unwanted
CCs. For example, I have:
variable Rmail_Dont_Reply_To =
"davis@amy,da...@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu,da...@amy.tch.harvard.edu";
in my .jedrc file.
Changes since 0.96-0:
1. set_color_escape_sequence function added to exploit JED's ability
to do color syntax highighting on more exotic color terminals.
2. Preprocessor lines can now be highlighted. See jed.rc as well as
doc/syntax.txt for details.
3. Tiny bug fixes:
* bug in info.sl found caused by info file that do not end with a
newline character
* isearch.sl is again able to repeat isearch backwards by pressing ^R.
This bug was introduced in 0.96-0.
* EDT special insert now works.
* Archive bit now set when JED creates a new file on MSDOS (only
jed.exe had this problem--- not jed386.exe)
4. Support for CRAY added.
5. If JED is started without a filename specified, the brief message will
be displayed warning the user that the scratch buffer will not be
saved.
6. On MSDOS, rgrep.exe (recursive grep) is now distributed. ON Unix,
simply do `make rgrep' to get a recursive highlighting grep.
Highlights of Major changes for 0.96:
1. OS/2 versions available!!
2. Color syntax highlighting in C mode.
3. Much improved indentation for C code.
4. Improved Fortran mode
5. Up to 20% faster loading
6. jed386.exe distributed with DOS version and runs
in a Windows DOS box (provides up to 256 Megs of Virtual memory)
--
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617-258-8119 MIT 37-662c, Cambridge, MA 02139
http://space.mit.edu/~davis
Tim Llewellyn
In article <9603261...@sdsdmvax.nesdis.noaa.gov>,
sha...@sdsdmvax.nesdis.noaa.gov (Steve Harris) writes:
[snip]
|>
|>3.) Are there any other free edt-like text editors out there?
|>
EDT+ from Boston Buisiness Computing comes free with Digital Unix
of the Freeware CD I think.
|>Thanks!
|>-Steve Harris
|>
--
"When I play my guitar people they just dance." Soukous
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Soukous, OpenVMS and cricket addict. Eats NO animal products. Hilife
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Jerry Hudgins
> [...]
>>2.) There was once a text editor called "ed" that supposedly
>>faithfully emulated edt under Unix - is that still around? Where?
>
>ED is an EDT look-alike editor that is portable to many platforms.
>ED is free software, see the file COPYING for details.
>ED is available from riceng.rice.edu, username rhrsoft, password rhrsoft.
You might also have a look at jed, which has an EDT keypad emulation
mode and compiles on both UNIX and VMS. You can find it at various
places - home site is space.mit.edu:/pub/davis.
--
Jerry Hudgins | Corning Incorporated | hudgi...@corning.com
A. Mahendra Rajah, System Manager
On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Tim Llewellyn wrote:
> EDT+ from Boston Buisiness Computing comes free with Digital Unix
> of the Freeware CD I think.
Yes, it does. But it requires a license from BBC. I was able to get
one for 30 days evaluation. So, I do not think that EDT+ is *free*.
-- mahendra (A. Mahendra Rajah :: Mahendra @ Meena.CC.URegina.CA)
System Manager, Dept of Computing Services, University of Regina,
Regina, Sask., Canada.
Tim Llewellyn
>To: MX%"Tim.Ll...@bristol.ac.uk"
>CC: MX%"Info...@Mvb.Saic.Com"
>Subj: Re: edt-like editors for unix
>
>
>On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Tim Llewellyn wrote:
>
>> EDT+ from Boston Buisiness Computing comes free with Digital Unix
>> of the Freeware CD I think.
>
> Yes, it does. But it requires a license from BBC. I was able to get
> one for 30 days evaluation. So, I do not think that EDT+ is *free*.
>
Hmmm, it works OK without any relevant license on our OSF/1 V3.0 boxes,
havn't tried installing it on the new 3.2D boxes yet.
I certainly got the impression at the time of the 3.0 release that DEC licensed
it from BBC for use by OSF (now Digital Unix) customers.
> -- mahendra (A. Mahendra Rajah :: Mahendra @ Meena.CC.URegina.CA)
> System Manager, Dept of Computing Services, University of Regina,
> Regina, Sask., Canada.
>
>
Ernie Bisson, MIT Bates Linear Accelerator
>>From: MX%"A.Mahend...@Meena.CC.URegina.CA" 27-MAR-1996 16:57:00.01
>>To: MX%"Tim.Ll...@bristol.ac.uk"
>>CC: MX%"Info...@Mvb.Saic.Com"
>>Subj: Re: edt-like editors for unix
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Tim Llewellyn wrote:
>>
>>> EDT+ from Boston Buisiness Computing comes free with Digital Unix
>>> of the Freeware CD I think.
>>
>> Yes, it does. But it requires a license from BBC. I was able to get
>> one for 30 days evaluation. So, I do not think that EDT+ is *free*.
>>
>Hmmm, it works OK without any relevant license on our OSF/1 V3.0 boxes,
>havn't tried installing it on the new 3.2D boxes yet.
>
>I certainly got the impression at the time of the 3.0 release that DEC licensed
>it from BBC for use by OSF (now Digital Unix) customers.
I believe it was available as unlicensed software for a short time only. For
the CSLG University program, it came bundled with the OSF/1 CONDIST and was
on a separate CD labeled "Complementary Products for DEC OSF/1". If I recall
correctly, it would no longer be free as of October 1995. I don't know if it
is currently bundled in with OSF/1 distributions, but as licensed software.
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M.I.T. Bates Linear Accelerator
P.O. Box 846
Middleton, Massachusetts 01949-2846
(508) 774-2370 or (617) 253-9218
E-Mail : bis...@bates.mit.edu
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them below. With the possible exception of the two commercial products,
EDT+ and nu/TPU, I believe the other information to be correct. I'd like
someone from DEC or someone from Boston Computing and a/Soft Development to
clear up for us what the current status of their products are with respect
to whether they are freely available to Digital Unix customers anymore or not.
If any of the information presented below is incorrect or I'm missing some
information, please let me know. Obviously, if I've omitted an EDT-like
editor, I'd like to know that too.
----------
Here is a list of EDT-like editors which are available around the network,
both commercial and free. (presented in alphabetical order):
ed - by Rush Record and now supported by Charles Sandmann. Ed is free
software under the terms of the GNU General Public License as
published by the Free Software Foundation. Ed is an EDT
look-alike editor that is portable to many platforms. Available
by FTP from riceng.rice.edu, username 'rhrsoft', password
'rhrsoft'. Contact Charles Sandmann (sand...@clio.rice.edu)
for more information.
EDT+ - from Boston Business Computing, Ltd., is a complete emulation of
OpenVMS EDT with extensions that provide EVE/TPU functions. All
three editing modes, line, keypad, and nokeypad are fully
supported. Commercial product, but available for free use for
Digital Unix customers on the INTEROPERABILITY CD. Contact
b...@bbc.com for more information.
emacs - written by Richard Stallman, has an EDT emulation mode.
Emacs is free software under the terms of the GNU General Public
License as published by the Free Software Foundation. Available
by anonymous FTP from many places, too numerous to mention.
jed - written by John Davis, supports emulation of Emacs, EDT,
Wordstar, and Brief editors. JED is a freely available text
editor for Unix, VMS, MSDOS, OS/2, and MS Windows. Available by
anonymous FTP from space.mit.edu in /pub/davis/jed. Contact John
Davis (da...@space.mit.edu) for more information or see URL
'http://space.mit.edu/~davis/jed.html'.
You need to pick up the slang library distribution as well
if you do not already have it (also in /pub/davis/jed).
nu/TPU - from a/Soft Development, Inc., is based on TPU. nu/TPU provides
interfaces like EVE and EDT, which have the look and feel of
their OpenVMS counterparts. Both character cell terminal and
Motif versions are available. Commercial product, but available
for free use for Digital Unix customers on the INTEROPERABILITY
CD.
sedt - from Anker Berg-Sonne. Keypad is simular to EDT, but the line
mode commands are much different. Sedt is a shareware program
for the IBM PC and compatible's running DOS Microsoft Windows,
OS/2, DEC Rainbow, ATARI ST, VAX/VMS, VAX/ULTRIX, RISC/ULTRIX,
SCO System V, and SCO XENIX and may only be used by properly
licensed users. There is no license fee for instructional,
class-room use. Site license fees apply to other uses by
educational institutions. Contact Anker Berg-Sonne
(72337,32...@compuserve.com) for more information.
Skip Darling
For about a $100.00 per machine we are buying a TPU editor that works
just like VMS edit/tpu with keyboard mapping just like the VMS world so
that switching between the two is easy. Asoft can be reached at (603)
666-6699. Call and ask for a free demo
Ps .
I don't work for or receive any thing for recommending their product. It
just works as advertised.
Malcolm Dunnett
>
> On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Tim Llewellyn wrote:
>
>> EDT+ from Boston Buisiness Computing comes free with Digital Unix
>> of the Freeware CD I think.
>
> Yes, it does. But it requires a license from BBC. I was able to get
> one for 30 days evaluation. So, I do not think that EDT+ is *free*.
>
It was bundled with systems which were purchased last year ( from
around Jan 95 to July 95 I think ). It is no longer included - if you
want to run it on system you purchased outside this special offer you
have to purchase a license. When I inquired about pricing last
month this is the price schedule I was give:
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Thank you for your interest in our products. I am including a
current price list for you. The software EDT+, VCL and Vmail is
sold as a network license. The number of concurrent users. Vbackup
is sold on a per platform basis.
If you have any questions please contact me at 508-725-3222 x313,
email: e...@bbc.com
Regards,
Elaine Bedard
Sales Manager
EDT+ or VCL or Vmail
# Users Price Price Per User
US$
1 300 300.00
2 595 297.50
4 995 248.75
6 1,295 215.80
8 1,595 199.35
10 1,850 185.00
12 2,100 175.00
16 2,595 162.20
20 3,095 154.75
24 3,500 145.85
28 3,895 139.10
32 4,200 131.25
36 4,595 127.65
40 4,995 124.90
50 5,595 116.55
60 6,595 110.00
80 8,000 100.00
100 9,500 95.00
EDT+ for Windows
$250.00
Media: Diskette (5 1/4", 3 1/2");9-track tape ($20); 1/4"
cartridge ($20); TK50 ($40); 8mm tape ($20); 4mm DAT tape ($20);
FTP distribution ($20). Contact the Sales Department for details.
Additional documentation sets are $20 each.
Yearly maintenance is 17% of the license fee. Maintenance for
additional licenses purchased at a later date is mandatory and
will be prorated to align with the existing annual maintenance
contract.
Transfer of license key to a different system for products not
under warranty or maintenance is $50.00.
Network Keys: A single machine is considered a network of one.
Licenses may be installed on multiple networks within the same
organization; a separate network key is required for each.
Terms: Company POs subject to approval, NET 15.
Payment: In US Dollars. American Express, VISA, MasterCard, COD,
check, wire transfer or company PO accepted.
Discounts: Corporate volume, educational, government and reseller
discounts available.
Shipping: Billed at cost, $10 Minimum. Normal service in North
America UPS Ground. FOB Origin. Express shipping available for
additional $25 handling charge plus shipping cost.
Warranty: 30 day money back guarantee. 60 days free software
support and software updates.
Effective February 1, 1996 (US$)
Prices are subject to change without notice.
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Malcolm Dunnett Malaspina University-College Email: dun...@mala.bc.ca
Computer Services Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA V9R 5S5 Tel: (604)755-8738
bi...@mix.com
> Yes, it is still being developed. The latest version is 0.97-13 and is
> available from space.mit.edu in pub/davis/jed.
This thread got me interested - I've been copying files to one of my
DEC systems to edit, then shipping them back to the Unix sites - so
I went though everything mentioned here that doesn't cost anything.
For those who haven't yet tried jed yet I suggest you check it out -
it's now a few days later and I'm still using it (and that says a lot!).
When retrieving it be sure to also get the S-Lang software (in the slang
dir at the same place) - this'll save you a trip back after reading the
jed install doc, it's needed to compile jed.
Billy Y..
David Pikcilingis
Tim Llewellyn <Tim.Ll...@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>In article <9603261...@sdsdmvax.nesdis.noaa.gov>,
>sha...@sdsdmvax.nesdis.noaa.gov (Steve Harris) writes:
>
>[snip]
>|>
>|>3.) Are there any other free edt-like text editors out there?
>|>
>
>of the Freeware CD I think.
Alas this is no longer true. Digital did license all of the OpenVMS
emulation tools for a year and did give them away free with the operating
system. The license expired September 1, 1995 and Digital decided not to
extend the offer again.
They have included all of the products on the Digital UNIX Connections CD
and the products are available for evaluation there.
EDT+ runs on UNIX and MS-DOS and has just been released on Windows. It is
the most complete emulation of VAX EDT available. It has been enhanced to
include many features of EVE/TPU such as column cut/paste, multiple windows,
status/ruler, etc.
For additional information contact Boston Business Computing at:
or visit our WWW page at:
Regards,
David Pikcilingis
David Pikcilingis
>I've gathered up the information on the various EDT-like editors and present
>them below. With the possible exception of the two commercial products,
>EDT+ and nu/TPU, I believe the other information to be correct. I'd like
>someone from DEC or someone from Boston Computing and a/Soft Development to
>clear up for us what the current status of their products are with respect
>to whether they are freely available to Digital Unix customers anymore or not.
>
>If any of the information presented below is incorrect or I'm missing some
>information, please let me know. Obviously, if I've omitted an EDT-like
>editor, I'd like to know that too.
>
>
>EDT+ - from Boston Business Computing, Ltd., is a complete emulation of
> OpenVMS EDT with extensions that provide EVE/TPU functions. All
> three editing modes, line, keypad, and nokeypad are fully
> supported. Commercial product, but available for free use for
> Digital Unix customers on the INTEROPERABILITY CD. Contact
> b...@bbc.com for more information.
[snip]
EDT+ was licensed by Digital and distributed, along with the rest of
our OpenVMS emulation products and products from Sector7, on a CD-ROM
labeled FREE!. The licensing arrangement allowed the use on our products
on OSF/1 systems purchased between September 1, 1994, and
August 31, 1995.
Digital decided to offer the products for 1 year as a special offer
to help people moving from OpenVMS to UNIX. At the end of the year
they continued to distribute the products but they are now licensed by
Boston Business Computing.
For more information:
sa...@bbc.com
http://www.bbc.com
Regards,
David
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