factory codes
H Vlems
is documented too, handy while applying for a Montagar license. The
serial number is of the form:
<factory code> <last digit of year> <production week> <5 character
serial no>
Most of the serial numbers start with AY, which is Ayre, Scotland
IIRC. Which is obvious, since I'm in the Netherlands. But there are
other codes, and I'd like to know where they're from.
What do these factory codes mean:
AB
TA
KL
NI
PY
Thanks,
Hans
dsnyder
Code Location
AB Albuquerque, NM, USA
AY Ayr, Scotland
BK Germany
CX Colorado Springs, CO, USA
GA Galway, Ireland
IQ Unknown
KA Kanata, Ontario, Canada
NI Salem, NH, USA
PC Irvine, Scotland
WF Westfield, MA, USA
dsnyder
Hans,
A bit more complete reply, I did not originate, but picked out of
c.o.v previous posts:
The serial number can be broken into 3 areas...
The first two digits indicate the country of Manufacture
AY = Ayr, Scotland
BK = Germany
GA = Galway, Ireland
IQ = Somewhere else
NI = Salem, New Hampshire, USA
PC = Irvine, Scotland
KA = Kanata, Ontario, Canada
CX = Colorado Springs, CO, USA
WF = Westfield, MA, USA
AB = Albuquerque, NM, USA
The 3rd Digit indicates the year
7 = 1997 8 = 1998 9 = 1999 etc.
The 4th & 5th digits indicate the week of manufacture from
January.
01 = 1st week in January
12 = 12th week after January 1st (End of March)
20 = Mid April
For a rough calculate take 4 weeks to the month
The remaining digits indicate the run number.
00005 = The 5th one made at this plant
00100 = The 100th one made at this plant
Dan
Jan-Erik Söderholm
> The 3rd Digit indicates the year
>
> The 4th & 5th digits indicate the week of manufacture from
> January.
>
> The remaining digits indicate the run number.
>
>
> 00005 = The 5th one made at this plant
> 00100 = The 100th one made at this plant...
...at that particular year+week or whenever ?
Bill Gunshannon
Wow, this is cool. I will need to save this and when I have a chance
go over all my stuff to see its history. Do the same rules apply to
things other than actual computer systems?
bill
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H Vlems
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Dan, thanks, I found the earlier post too, with another set of
keywords.
But the codes TA, KL and PY are still unknown to me. The TA code is on
a DECserver 100.
Perhaps a long closed plant in Scotland?
Hans
JF Mezei
and VT320s were made.
HY is somewhere in japan. This is where LN03s were made.
CA is where the LN09s were made. Listed as Misato Japan.
TY which is also japan, where LA75s were made.
H Vlems
I'll add a paragraph to my website with a list of the known codes.
ger...@no.spam.mail.com
wrote:
> The remaining digits indicate the run number.
Does the run number have to be strictly numeric? Or rather have you ever
seen an alphanumeric run number such as "00FZE" (a DEC 3000/400)?
Thanks,
G.
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply
<009a800a-39ee-443b...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, H
Vlems <hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
> Most of the serial numbers start with AY, which is Ayre, Scotland
> IIRC. Which is obvious, since I'm in the Netherlands. But there are
> other codes, and I'd like to know where they're from.
> What do these factory codes mean:
> AB
> TA
> KL
> NI
> PY
Interesting. I have mostly AY but at least one AB. I am also starting
to do an inventory and documentation.
dsnyder
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:32:03 -0800 (PST), dsnyder <danieldsny...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The remaining digits indicate the run number.
>
> Does the run number have to be strictly numeric? Or rather have you ever
> seen an alphanumeric run number such as "00FZE" (a DEC 3000/400)?
>
> Thanks,
> G.
G,
Looks as though some further research is needed. I have a XP1000,
DS20E and ES40 that do not
follow the sequence as I described. The serial numbers are similar to
this sequence 4024DPSZ1024. Four initial numbers,
four letters and four numbers. The DS20E is similar, but a bit
different, 4236DZ2ZA000. I do note these machines
are manufactured under the Compaq name, but did not think Compaq
changed too much in the system
manufacturing business after the Digital merger.
Dan
H Vlems
wrote:
The answer must be 'whenever', or cumulative if you like. Otherwise
it's difficult to explain serial numbers that end in .....A0123.
H Vlems
> In article <4d2b794f-f75e-4870-a62e-4f8e747ff...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> University of Scranton |
> Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
Yes, network equipment manufactured under the Digital brand follows
the same form. Like the DECbridge 150, a DECserver 100 or a DELNI.
H Vlems
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:32:03 -0800 (PST), dsnyder <danieldsny...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The remaining digits indicate the run number.
>
> Does the run number have to be strictly numeric? Or rather have you ever
> seen an alphanumeric run number such as "00FZE" (a DEC 3000/400)?
>
> Thanks,
> G.
Well, the first character of the run number may be an A. I own a
system with this serial number: TA536A0010. It is a Multia, so it is
possible that more than 100.000 were made at that plant. I do not know
whether the SN contains a product code or that it is just a run number
for the plant.
H Vlems
> wrote:
>
> > The remaining digits indicate the run number.
>
> Does the run number have to be strictly numeric? Or rather have you ever
> seen an alphanumeric run number such as "00FZE" (a DEC 3000/400)?
>
> Thanks,
> G.
BTW I have a VAXstation 2000 with serial number AB1500ITG.
No clue what that means, the system does show a logo of the Swedish
PTT...
Hans
H Vlems
Compaq probably introduced its own serial number format. I have an
XP1000 with a 'regular' DEC style S/N.
After the merger Compaq forced its own logistics procedures on the
acquired DEC organization.
JF Mezei
> Compaq probably introduced its own serial number format.
DS10Ls which were really "Digital" products, but introduced just after
the compaq merger, had the Compaq logo on them, but Digital serial
numbers (AY<mumble mumble>.
Here is the interesting one:
An COMPAQ branded keyboard for an DS10L (the old PC interface):
3K-KK462-AC and it has a CY serial number. It is made in Germany.
That keyboard has the el-cheapo plastic look and feel of a Compaq product.
Bill Gunshannon
H Vlems <hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
> On 23 dec, 14:59, Jan-Erik S�derholm <jan-erik.soderh...@telia.com>
Hey, I just thought of something interesting. Montagar must have quite
a list of Serial Numbers. I wonder how hard it would and if they would
be willing to extract them and provide them to someone (like me :-) and
we could run a report to show some stats on places and dates of manufacture.
I would get a real kick out of writting something in COBOL to do that.
That would bring back some memories and probably provide some interesting
info to the group.
(Yes, I realize someone could probably do it all with a line or two of
SQL, but let an old man have his fun. :-)
bill
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H Vlems
> In article <233563b3-a8c9-4787-abb3-af101f386...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
> H Vlems <hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 23 dec, 14:59, Jan-Erik Söderholm <jan-erik.soderh...@telia.com>
> > wrote:
> >> dsnyder wrote:
> >> > The 3rd Digit indicates the year
>
> >> > The 4th & 5th digits indicate the week of manufacture from
> >> > January.
>
> >> > The remaining digits indicate the run number.
>
> >> > 00005 = The 5th one made at this plant
> >> > 00100 = The 100th one made at this plant...
>
> >> ...at that particular year+week or whenever ?
> > The answer must be 'whenever', or cumulative if you like. Otherwise
> > it's difficult to explain serial numbers that end in .....A0123.
>
> Hey, I just thought of something interesting. Montagar must have quite
> a list of Serial Numbers. I wonder how hard it would and if they would
> be willing to extract them and provide them to someone (like me :-) and
> we could run a report to show some stats on places and dates of manufacture.
> I would get a real kick out of writting something in COBOL to do that.
> That would bring back some memories and probably provide some interesting
> info to the group.
>
> (Yes, I realize someone could probably do it all with a line or two of
> SQL, but let an old man have his fun. :-)
>
> bill
>
> --
> Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
> University of Scranton |
> Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Excellent idea Bill, though I'd probably do it in Pascal or PL/I just
to relearn that language.
Will you contact Montagar? I can't imagine why they wouldn't want to.
The SN by itself is pretty meaningless.
Hans
Steven Schweda
> Compaq probably introduced its own serial number format. I have an
> XP1000 with a 'regular' DEC style S/N.
> After the merger Compaq forced its own logistics procedures on the
> acquired DEC organization.
One of my XP1000 systems has a small Compaq label just
above the PCI slots with the "Model" and "SN", and the serial
number is a long "L9..." -- I assume Compaq-like. Another has
a DEC-like "NI..." serial on that label, but another, larger
label above that one, saying "S/N: L9...". So, I infer that
late production units had only the Compaq-like serial numbers,
while earlier ones had DEC-like serial numbers with add-on
Compaq-like serial numbers. I can believe that there would be
still earlier units with only DEC-like serial numbers.
Bill Gunshannon
H Vlems <hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
> On 24 dec, 21:31, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>> In article <233563b3-a8c9-4787-abb3-af101f386...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>> � � � � H Vlems <hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
I'll give it a shot. The worst they can do is say "No".
Merry Christmas everyone.
bill
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Robin Schipper
> In article<2d2b59bd-2c8d-4606...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> H Vlems<hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
>
>> On 24 dec, 21:31, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>
>>> In article<233563b3-a8c9-4787-abb3-af101f386...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>>> H Vlems<hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23 dec, 14:59, Jan-Erik S�derholm<jan-erik.soderh...@telia.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> dsnyder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The 3rd Digit indicates the year
>>>>>>
>>>
that we have / had in our CMDB.
just give me a mail,
With regards,
Robin Schipper
Bill Gunshannon
I would certainly be interested. It would give me data to work with
until I see if Montagar is willing to give me theirs. And, the more
data I have to work with in the end, the more interesting will be the
report.
The email in the From: line is valid.
bill
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bill...@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
Tom Linden
<remove_this> wrote:
> Op 25-12-09 14:03, Bill Gunshannon schreef:
>> In
>> article<2d2b59bd-2c8d-4606...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>> H Vlems<hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
>>
>>> On 24 dec, 21:31, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In
>>>> article<233563b3-a8c9-4787-abb3-af101f386...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> H Vlems<hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 23 dec, 14:59, Jan-Erik Sï¿œderholm<jan-erik.soderh...@telia.com>
I would be interested, maybe knockout sample PL/I program. Hey let's
make this
a contest to see who can do it in the fewest statements in whatever
language.
(note I did not say lines of code:-)
>
> With regards,
>
> Robin Schipper
--
PL/I for OpenVMS
www.kednos.com
Robin Schipper
With regards, Robin
Bill Gunshannon
"Tom Linden" <t...@kednos.company> writes:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:26:10 -0800, Robin Schipper <"thespriteman
> <remove_this> wrote:
>
>> Op 25-12-09 14:03, Bill Gunshannon schreef:
>>> In
>>> article<2d2b59bd-2c8d-4606...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>>> H Vlems<hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 24 dec, 21:31, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In
>>>>> article<233563b3-a8c9-4787-abb3-af101f386...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> H Vlems<hvl...@freenet.de> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
Meaningless contest. Number of statements needed to accomplish a task
is not a reaonable measure of anything as regards the usefullness of a
language. Even using COBOL I have taken program that when done properly
took up pages and pages of paper and reduced them to a single page worth
of code. Functionality was the same, but you wouldn't want to be the one
who had to maintain that program. (I did it in an academic environment
over 30 years ago to demonstrate why the students were being taught
"Structured COBOL".)
bill
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Bill Gunshannon
Robin Schipper <"thespriteman <remove_this> writes:
>
>
> With regards, Robin
Thank you very much. I got it.
Have to travel to Georgia tomorrow, might work on it while I am there, but
will definitely start as soon as I get home.
bill
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Bill Gunshannon
Robin Schipper <"thespriteman <remove_this> writes:
>
>
> With regards, Robin
Two questions, one for the group and one for Robin.
For the group: Is the description complete?
For Robin: Are you sure those entries are accurate?
Reason for both questions. I have gotten far enough along to read the
numbers and verify they are valid. About 1/4 of them are not, having
Alpha and Punctuation characters in what should be a numeric field.
But, I am back from my road trip to GA (where it was just as cold as
here in PA, gotta love that global warming :-) so I will be moving
forward on this. I am also thinking of doing a webpage where one can
enter a Serial Number and have it interpreted.
bill
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Robin Schipper
>
> For Robin: Are you sure those entries are accurate?
>
> Reason for both questions. I have gotten far enough along to read the
> numbers and verify they are valid. About 1/4 of them are not, having
> Alpha and Punctuation characters in what should be a numeric field.
>
>
>
>
>
Hi Bill,
im am not sure how accurate the entry's are.
but 75% wrong seems a bit to much, i will do some testing with the
serial numbers i can check next week.
With regards,
Robin
Bill Gunshannon
Robin Schipper <"thespriteman <remove_this> writes:
That's 25%, not 75%. :-)