compaq logo on DECwindows login screen
Roland Barmettler
This may be a stupid question, but anyway:
Up to VMS 7.2-x there was a nice "digital" logo on the DECwindows
login screen. Since 7.3 it became a rather ugly "Compaq" logo.
Does anybody know how to change that back ? Is it an bitmap of some
sort or hardcoded into the X server ?
Thanks for any help :-)
Roland
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>Hi
>
>This may be a stupid question, but anyway:
>Up to VMS 7.2-x there was a nice "digital" logo on the DECwindows
>login screen. Since 7.3 it became a rather ugly "Compaq" logo.
>Does anybody know how to change that back ? Is it an bitmap of some
>sort or hardcoded into the X server ?
I think it's a bitmap file, and replacing it with your own is documented
... somewhere. Just guessing, look at DECW$PRIVATE_APPS_SETUP.COM, and
the documentation around that file.
The standard picture _may_ be hardwired in the code, as opposed to loaded
out of a file, so there may not be a file anywhere with the "digital" logo
in it. If there is, the upgrade likely deletes it.
If you find the file, you'll likely want to keep an archive copy of both
the "digital" one and the "Compaq" one, just in case you don't like
whatever comes next...
sys...@sendspamhere.org
>In article <20020202183557....@barmettler.net>, Roland
>Barmettler <rol...@barmettler.net> wrote:
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>>Hi
>>
>>This may be a stupid question, but anyway:
>>Up to VMS 7.2-x there was a nice "digital" logo on the DECwindows
>>login screen. Since 7.3 it became a rather ugly "Compaq" logo.
>>Does anybody know how to change that back ? Is it an bitmap of some
>>sort or hardcoded into the X server ?
>
>I think it's a bitmap file, and replacing it with your own is documented
>the documentation around that file.
>
>The standard picture _may_ be hardwired in the code, as opposed to loaded
>out of a file, so there may not be a file anywhere with the "digital" logo
>in it. If there is, the upgrade likely deletes it.
>
>If you find the file, you'll likely want to keep an archive copy of both
>the "digital" one and the "Compaq" one, just in case you don't like
>whatever comes next...
CDE$SYSTEM_COMMON:[000000.APPCONFIG.ICONS.C]DECDTLOGO.PM
Replace this file with one of your own liking. I've replaced mine with
a nice color Tmesis Software logo. ftp://ftp.tmesis.com/decdtlogo.zip
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>
> This may be a stupid question, but anyway:
> Up to VMS 7.2-x there was a nice "digital" logo on the DECwindows
> login screen. Since 7.3 it became a rather ugly "Compaq" logo.
> Does anybody know how to change that back ? Is it an bitmap of some
> sort or hardcoded into the X server ?
>
If you're not running CDE, you can display anything you want by
defining decw$login_background to the .com or .exe file. Be carefull
what you choose, as it is running in privileged context.
Fred Kleinsorge
VMS "shark" logo.
If anyone has alternative logo's they want to send me... oh. I'm serious,
so try to resist the urge to send funny and/or obscene ones.
_Fred
Bob Koehler wrote in message ...
John McLean
Fred Kleinsorge wrote:
>
> Since this subject has come up. I am lobbying to change the logo to a nice
> VMS "shark" logo.
>
> If anyone has alternative logo's they want to send me... oh. I'm serious,
> so try to resist the urge to send funny and/or obscene ones.
>
> _Fred
I'm an Australian and sharks really don't appeal - except as the fish in
fish-and-chips.
How about something a bit more like proper marketing ? One or two big
words to catch the eye of anyone walking past....or a logo that somehow
comments on the industry...
John McLean
Fred Kleinsorge
Don't know what "proper marketing" is. The shark logo is eye catching, and
looks slick.
Just the words "Compaq OpenVMS" doesn't excite me.
John McLean wrote in message <3C5ED437...@swissonline.delete.ch>...
JF Mezei
> Just the words "Compaq OpenVMS" doesn't excite me.
Shouldn't you be waiting for your new owners to decide what the branding will
be ? What is HP's policy with regards to its X login screens ?
Personally, I think it should be similar to the character cell interface: just
allow each site to define a logical that points to an image (of documented
size and attributes).
sys...@sendspamhere.org
>The "shark" logo is a swimming shark, with "OpenVMS" written near the top.
>
>Don't know what "proper marketing" is. The shark logo is eye catching, and
>looks slick.
How about a more appropriate logo. One that reflects the true nature of
VMS. I'd suggest a bastard child wearing a VMS T-shirt (filthy and torn)
and being neglected by its care-givers while other children are pampered.
Bob Koehler
> Since this subject has come up. I am lobbying to change the logo to a nice
> VMS "shark" logo.
>
> If anyone has alternative logo's they want to send me... oh. I'm serious,
> so try to resist the urge to send funny and/or obscene ones.
The shark would be great. Looking forward to it.
Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser
> Subj: RE: compaq logo on DECwindows login screen
> Fred Kleinsorge wrote:
> >
> > Since this subject has come up. I am lobbying to change the logo to a nice
> > VMS "shark" logo.
> >
> > If anyone has alternative logo's they want to send me... oh. I'm serious,
> > so try to resist the urge to send funny and/or obscene ones.
> >
> > _Fred
>
>
> I'm an Australian and sharks really don't appeal - except as the fish in
> fish-and-chips.
>
> How about something a bit more like proper marketing ? One or two big
> words to catch the eye of anyone walking past....or a logo that somehow
> comments on the industry...
>
>
> John McLean
Well, I do like the Shark logo quite a bit. It certainly communicates
a dynamic and aggressiveness VMS marketing by Q in general lacks (No insult
intended to the few and brave who hang out here in c.o.v.). Still I do have one
problem with the Shark "icon" and that is that it is a picture rather than
an icon. While for the question at hand this does not make too much of a
difference (there is loads of space on the login screen) this is a real
pain if you do want to really use a OpenVMS icon somewhere. So I would prefer
a logo that scales down gracefully at least to 16x16 (yupp, the size of all
these pesky icons in the browser URL bars aka favicon). Unfortunatly I can
not offer an implementation since my artistic skills are not good enough to
do one.
Greetings, Martin
P.S. I gues most people here would not mind too much if the "Open" would have
to be sacrificed for space reasons ... ;->
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Larry Kilgallen
So Fred, what can we do to "vote for" the shark ?
dit...@dittman.net
: Since this subject has come up. I am lobbying to change the logo to a nice
: VMS "shark" logo.
: If anyone has alternative logo's they want to send me... oh. I'm serious,
: so try to resist the urge to send funny and/or obscene ones.
How about making the logos available so everyone can check them
out after you get them.
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Fred Kleinsorge
JF Mezei wrote in message <3C5EDBAA...@videotron.ca>...
Until such time HP takes us over, we are seperate companies.
The ability to change the contents of this space by the user already exists.
The question is, what should the default be to fill that space?
Fred Kleinsorge
change it from a really, really bad rendition of the Compaq logo, into
something that has more eye appeal, and indicates that the system is running
OpenVMS.
The DII/COE login box is more appealing that the current one (kind of cool,
large DII logo, and a whole lot of text telling you about the do's and
don't's of a defense asset).
_Fred
dit...@dittman.net wrote in message ...
JF Mezei
> Until such time HP takes us over, we are seperate companies.
have you checked the SEC filings BY COMPAQ lately ? If you are separate
companies, how come over 450 people are devoted as we speak to planning the
integration ? And how come Compaq files under its onw company name, documents
generated by HP ?
Perhaps you should be talking to some of those 450 integration folks inside
your organisations to ask them what sort of time frame branding issues will be
dealt with.
Heck, perhaps you could simply put the shark on and present it to the
integration folks as the standard logo for VMS and this way perhaps HP would
simply adopt/accept it as a VMS logo. (while you are at it, why not rebrand
VMS to "VMS" (drop the open) during the transition ?
Rich Jordan
my favorite BG on a bullseye screensaver option.
The shark is acceptable, as long as it is rendered nicely; many of the
downloadable copies I've seen are very coarse. I don't imagine that the
Q would allow the use of the |d|i|g|i|t|al| block font saying
|O|p|e|n|V|M|S| either, eh? To be honest, my personal preference would
be to not see the Compaq name at all (wishful thinking, but in the
circles we sell to, "Compaq" is still a name that loses sales, not makes
them), if they could settle on just the stylized 'Q', with OpenVMS (or
VMS!) displayed in a classic, sharp, big font, that could be acceptable.
OTOH, got a picture of one of those JStars that are running VMS? I
could see VMS, in a racy, but elegant, italicized font over an image of
one of those...
VMS, the perfect defense against mediocrity, both foreign and domestic.
VMS, keeping America safe.
Rich
Fred Kleinsorge wrote in message ...
C.W.Holeman II
> P.S. I gues most people here would not mind too much if the "Open" would have
> to be sacrificed for space reasons ... ;->
More than one large company has falled back to a classic theme.
Coke, Jack is Back (western US), Mustang, Bettle.
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Alan Greig
<klein...@star.zko.dec.com> wrote:
>Since this subject has come up. I am lobbying to change the logo to a nice
>VMS "shark" logo.
I loved the Griffin/Gryphon/any other spelling which featured on
"OpenVMS Engineering" t-shirts back around 1995. I got one from the
Spiralog team in Livingston at the time.
Actually could do with a few more VMS t-shirts to do my bit for
advertising as the ones I have are suffering seriously from wear and
tear, Since the last vestiges of VMS technical staff disappeared from
Scotland getting hold of this stuff has proved close to impossible. My
local Compaq account manager was not even able to get hold of VMS or
Alpha literature for me to pass on to colleagues without a great deal
of chasing - let alone anything else.
--
Alan
Wayne Sewell
> "Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser" wrote:
>> P.S. I gues most people here would not mind too much if the "Open" would have
>> to be sacrificed for space reasons ... ;->
>
> More than one large company has falled back to a classic theme.
> Coke, Jack is Back (western US), Mustang, Bettle.
Hey, we have Jerk in the Box here in Texas, too, but we're not really a western
state. Actually south central, pretty much equidistant from the two coasts. I
figure the only reason we were considered part of the Old West is because we
are far west of where most of the population was in that century.
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JF Mezei wrote in message <3C5EF670...@videotron.ca>...
Paul Repacholi
> pain if you do want to really use a OpenVMS icon somewhere. So I
> would prefer a logo that scales down gracefully at least to 16x16
> (yupp, the size of all these pesky icons in the browser URL bars aka
> favicon). Unfortunatly I can not offer an implementation since my
> artistic skills are not good enough to do one.
How about back to the original, the 'virtual Cheshire Cat' smile and
tail?
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Larry Kilgallen
> "Dr. Martin P.J. Zinser" <ZIN...@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes:
>
>> pain if you do want to really use a OpenVMS icon somewhere. So I
>> would prefer a logo that scales down gracefully at least to 16x16
>> (yupp, the size of all these pesky icons in the browser URL bars aka
>> favicon). Unfortunatly I can not offer an implementation since my
>> artistic skills are not good enough to do one.
>
> How about back to the original, the 'virtual Cheshire Cat' smile and
> tail?
That was a DECUS VAX SIG mascot, the shark was from VMS Development.
Dave Gudewicz
see sharks on TV and aquariums (big ones). Just the other day, my son who
got a shark jaw from Florida, dropped the thing and ripped his arm open in
the process.
Perhps a kinder, gentler icon.
How about the Starship Enterprise (I know copyright problems, etc) or
something space related? ISS anyone?
Live long and prosper (us AND VMS).
Dave...
"Larry Kilgallen" <Kilg...@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
news:VTjkYg...@eisner.encompasserve.org...
JF Mezei
>
> I would respect the Aussies comment on the shark. Most of us landlubbers
> see sharks on TV and aquariums (big ones).
Funny has Australia has a thriving scuba diving industry and a big part of
that include swimming with the sharks. (been there, done that).
One has to find something to fight the penguin.
Now, if HP really wanted to please its remaining customers, they'd have a
picture of Palmer's head just in front of the mouth of the shark.
Of course, for the last version of VMS on Alpha, they should have 2
tombstones. One with RIP-Alpha, and with with RIP VMS.
What would be the exact birthdates for Alpha and VMS ? (first boot in a lab or
first commercial shipment ?)
WILLIAM WEBB
I posted this on 29-SEP-2000:
Subject line was
"RE: Shark x Penguin :THE REAL STORY"
###
I passed this back to a couple of folks at Compaq, and lo and
behold, one of them was the creator of said shark, and here's
the authoritative story on the VMS shark:
CUT HERE
--------------------------------------------------------
Bill,
I created the OpenVMS Shark logo long ago (early '90's) for the original
'OpenVMS Champions' program - a worldwide group of business managers who
were drivers and advocates of OpenVMS in their local geographies. The
reasoning around the logo was that the shark and OpenVMS shared attributes
such as:
o They have both been around forever.
o They are extremely fast and flexible.
o They never stop.
o They will take on (eat) anything and continue to operate.
o They operate in packs/clusters.
o And although they will never be cute - they are the most efficient and
effective machines in their environments.
The tag line for the group was:
"In an ocean full of guppy operating systems, wouldn't you want to be the
king of the seas?"
Regards,
------------------------------Pure Personal Opinion----------------------
John P. SmithOpenVMS Systems and Servers Group
john.p.smith#compaq.nospam
####
WWWebb
Koska, John C. (LNG-MBC)
<grin>
:) jck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Gudewicz [mailto:david.g...@abbott.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:53 AM
> To: Info...@Mvb.Saic.Com
> Subject: Re: compaq logo on DECwindows login screen
>
>
> I would respect the Aussies comment on the shark. Most of us
> landlubbers
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> o And although they will never be cute - they are the most efficient and
> effective machines in their environments.
I have to disagree. Except for a few species of sharks (especially the ugly
great white), Sharks are extremely beautiful animals. Extremely sleek and well
proportioned. They swim very gracefully during normal times, yet can deploy
lots of power on demand.
WILLIAM WEBB
First of all, I do not take credit for that statement-
I was quoting John S. at Compaq.
Beautiful can be cute, but it does not necessarily follow
that what is beautiful must also be cute.
(human examples omitted to conserve flamage)
Jellyfish in motion, sharks and birds of prey are beautiful,
but hardly cute.
WWWebb
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Bob Koehler
>
> How about the Starship Enterprise (I know copyright problems, etc) or
> something space related? ISS anyone?
Not ISS.
JF Mezei
> Jellyfish in motion, sharks and birds of prey are beautiful,
> but hardly cute.
Ok then. So we have to consider Britney Spears, Elle McPherson, Cindy
Crawford, etc.
Or perhaps a picture of Elvis ? ( we all know that despite the rumours, he
isn't dead...)
Doc.Cypher
That's an idea I like... Picture of Elvis with the caption "VMS will NOT
leave the building".
Doc.
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Lee K. Gleason
"Open VMS", and depicts a chrome looking robotic shark swimming
in blue water...don't know where I got my copy, I use it as the
wallpaper anytime I'm dragooned into using a WIndows box.
Lee K. Gleason N5ZMR
Control-G Consultants
Martin Vorlaender
> Howzabout the mechanical Shark VMS logo? THe one that says
> "Open VMS", and depicts a chrome looking robotic shark swimming
> in blue water...don't know where I got my copy, I use it as the
> wallpaper anytime I'm dragooned into using a WIndows box.
What you have there probably is art by Sorayama Hajime.
cu,
Martin
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JF Mezei
I just watched a 1960s documentary on 2 caped crime fighters working in a city
that ressembles New York. At one point, a shark jumps out of the water and
grabs onto the leg of one of them. The shark was in fact a trojan (with a
bomb inside) sent by the Penguin.
But for all its strength, the shark was defeated by a simple
Bat-shark-repellant spray and fell back onto the water to self destruct.
The Penguin was also able to activate a giant magnet to keep the 2 crusaders
captive onto the Penguin's buoy.
Since the shark is controlled by the Penguin and the penguin has the ability
to capture and keep people captive, I am not sure that using the shark as the
VMS logo is appropriate.
Perhaps a dolphin could be used instead ? (agile swimmer, can go fast, very
friendly and likable) and not associated to the Penguin.
How about bugs bunny ? Or perhaps some of the friendly hedgehogs used on some
early New Zealand Telecom prepard phone cards ?
Tim Llewellyn
JF Mezei wrote:
> How about bugs bunny ? Or perhaps some of the friendly hedgehogs used on some
> early New Zealand Telecom prepard phone cards ?
How about a decent VMS marketing slogan.
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Maybe he's pulling the strings at a Houston based computer^H^H^HPeeCee
company? :-)
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Glenn Everhart
your DECwindows login screen, find the file
sys$common:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.APPCONFIG.ICONS.C]DECDTLOGO.PM
and replace with one from VMS 7.2-1 (or probably older also).
I found that just putting the old one in as version 2 works fine and the
login screen is exactly the one from before the Compaq-tion.
Aside from the image presented there seems not to be much in the file, so I imagine
someone suitably motivated might be able to replace with whatever kind of icon
one wanted.
As for some of the females mentioned below, rotsa ruck...
Glenn Everhart
sys...@sendspamhere.org
>For the nostalgic among us, if you care to have the good old Digital logo on
>your DECwindows login screen, find the file
>
>sys$common:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.APPCONFIG.ICONS.C]DECDTLOGO.PM
>
>and replace with one from VMS 7.2-1 (or probably older also).
>
>I found that just putting the old one in as version 2 works fine and the
>login screen is exactly the one from before the Compaq-tion.
>
>Aside from the image presented there seems not to be much in the file, so I imagine
>someone suitably motivated might be able to replace with whatever kind of icon
>one wanted.
>
>As for some of the females mentioned below, rotsa ruck...
>
>Glenn Everhart
Here's anonther one just for fun:
anonymous ftp://ftp.tmesis.com
get QUISP.ZIP.
UNZIP QUISP.ZIP to get QUISP.PM and rename QUISP.PM to
SYS$COMMON:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.APPCONFIG.ICONS.C]DECDTLOGO.PM
If anybody knows where I can find a picture of QUAKE, I'd really
appreciate it.
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JF Mezei
> UNZIP QUISP.ZIP to get QUISP.PM and rename QUISP.PM to
> SYS$COMMON:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.APPCONFIG.ICONS.C]DECDTLOGO.PM
How does one change the logo on VAX-VMS if we don't hace CDE ?
sys...@sendspamhere.org
That's documented! Look back through this thread for the pointers.
Paul Repacholi
> As for some of the females mentioned below, rotsa ruck...
Or ,to quote the secretary from the local Pyramid office years
ago;
"Now I know why it's called a root window."
She was most miffed when the boss madw it go away...
(and no, it was NOT a female!)
Paul Sture
> I would respect the Aussies comment on the shark. Most of us landlubbers
> see sharks on TV and aquariums (big ones). Just the other day, my son who
> got a shark jaw from Florida, dropped the thing and ripped his arm open in
> the process.
>
context. From www.m-w.com
Main Entry: 2 shark
Function: noun
Etymology: probably modification of German Schurke scoundrel
Date: 1599
1 : a rapacious crafty person who preys upon others
through usury, extortion, or trickery
2 : one who excels greatly especially in a particular
field
While I like the second meaning there, the phrase "loan shark" more readily
springs to mind.
> Perhps a kinder, gentler icon.
>
Perhaps, although if the shark were to be used it could be accompanied by the
original reasons and the second definition above, perhaps in a HelpŚAbout
box?
I personally like the idea of having a choice of several, in a similar manner
to choosing Motif styles.
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Paul Sture
Switzerland
Tom Linden
doesn't know the exact origins of shark, mentions Schirke Austrian dialect
for sturgeon, Northeatern french variant of chercher, cherquier and gives
some plausible early uses. Skurk is modern swedish for scoundrel, the OED
equivalent, SAOB having gotten through S indicates the german as below.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Sture [mailto:paul....@bluewin.delete.ch]
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:16 AM
> To: Info...@Mvb.Saic.Com
Roland Barmettler
sys...@SendSpamHere.ORG schrieb:
> In article <3C656BB1...@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei...@videotron.ca> writes:>sys...@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> >
> >> UNZIP QUISP.ZIP to get QUISP.PM and rename QUISP.PM to
> >> SYS$COMMON:[CDE$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM.APPCONFIG.ICONS.C]DECDTLOGO.PM
> >
> >How does one change the logo on VAX-VMS if we don't hace CDE ?
>
> That's documented! Look back through this thread for the pointers.
Thanks for all the answers and the colourful discussion which I enjoyed
reading. However, I've had trouble with my news server for over
a week, so that part (how to change the logo without CDE) is missing.
:-( Could someone re-post that article to me ?
Thanks !
Greetings, Roland
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Lyndon Bartels
have to change no matter what happened with the "merger."
Of course, a phoenix wouldn't be too bad either... You know, the
beautiful bird born from the reborn from it's own ashes.....
VMS .... reborn.... Not bad..... ;-)
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to look at the horse's butt.
John E. Malmberg
> Thanks for all the answers and the colourful discussion which I enjoyed
> reading. However, I've had trouble with my news server for over
> a week, so that part (how to change the logo without CDE) is missing.
> :-( Could someone re-post that article to me ?
> Thanks !
This newsgroup/mailing list and many others are searchable at
http://www.google.com for past articles and threads.
-John
wb8...@qsl.network
Personal Opinion Only
David J. Dachtera
>
> I'd be happy with "OpenVMS" for a logo, at least that way it wouldn't
> have to change no matter what happened with the "merger."
>
> Of course, a phoenix wouldn't be too bad either... You know, the
> beautiful bird born from the reborn from it's own ashes.....
>
> VMS .... reborn.... Not bad..... ;-)
Then, I guess that makes me a born-again VMS bigot.
Say, "Hallelujah, Brothers!"
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David J. Dachtera
dba DJE Systems
http://www.djesys.com/
Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:
http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/