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Colin DeVilbiss

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Jul 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/21/00
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a few more early setup questions:

1) most importantly, are there any good FAQ-ish websites for plan9?
(besides the canonical FAQ, that is?). I would be happy not to
clutter the list with questions if I already had the answers. :)

2) setting up client access for pop3 and nntp? I checked the mail(1)
manpage, but it didn't want to give up its secrets. (that is, I have
a remote pop3 account and would like to be able to download its
messages to my PC while in plan9.)

3) people have remarked on the list about staying in plan9 all the time
except when they need to access the web; besides the above and what
is available in the distro, does anyone have helpful suggestions
regarding things like outside software to download to make full-time
plan9 use a reality?

answers to any of the above in the form of documentation pointers would
be as welcome as straight answers.

thanks in advance.

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Colin DeVilbiss
crde...@mtu.edu

ari...@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp

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Jul 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/21/00
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Hello,

> echo flush >'#a/arp/data' on v2 cpu/terminal
Thank you.
By
echo flush >'#a/arp/ctl'
on v2 cpu/terminal. CPU servers get connected.
But how can I do for my file server?
Reboot?

Kenji Arisawa
E-mail: ari...@aichi-u.ac.jp

for...@caldo.demon.co.uk

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>>echo flush >'#a/arp/ctl'
>>on v2 cpu/terminal. CPU servers get connected.
>>But how can I do for my file server?
>>Reboot?

type
arp flush
one the file server's console


ari...@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp

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Hello,

>type
> arp flush
>one the file server's console

Thanks,

Kenji Arisawa

Russ Cox

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Jul 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/21/00
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2) setting up client access for pop3 and nntp? I checked the mail(1)
manpage, but it didn't want to give up its secrets. (that is, I have
a remote pop3 account and would like to be able to download its
messages to my PC while in plan9.)

I have patches to upas/fs that provide pop3 access.
If you bug me, I'm happy to provide them. No one,
to my knowledge, has done anything for nntp, although
it's a file system just itching to be written.

I use my pop3 patches almost exclusively, to get around network
failures between me and my mail server. They're not
in the system proper because they store your password
in a plain text file, which is not great. I believe a
more general solution is planned.

Russ

Colin DeVilbiss

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> I have patches to upas/fs that provide pop3 access.
> If you bug me, I'm happy to provide them.

consider yourself bugged. :)

> No one,
> to my knowledge, has done anything for nntp, although
> it's a file system just itching to be written.

hm. would this be an appropriate project for someone new to the ``plan9
way'' or is it probably too ambitious?
(I have some experience with unix sockets, but I have not written any
plan9 networking software; for that matter, s/networking //.)

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Colin DeVilbiss
crde...@mtu.edu

Andrey Mirtchovski

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Jul 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/21/00
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Colin DeVilbiss wrote:

>
> (I have some experience with unix sockets, but I have not written any
> plan9 networking software; for that matter, s/networking //.)

Oh, networking in plan9 is fun! It's mostly a matter of composing a string
to pass to dial() and after that it's all peachy and creamy. I have a
200-line irc client done in no time, which is now being slowly designed
into a filesystem so that it will *fit* plan9 better...

Sockets experience doesn't seem to matter much -- everything is nicely
'encapsulated' and the 'paradigms' are of a higher level.

andrey


Russ Cox

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> to my knowledge, has done anything for nntp, although
> it's a file system just itching to be written.

hm. would this be an appropriate project for someone new to the ``plan9
way'' or is it probably too ambitious?

Go for it. Have a look at 9p(2). It might not be
not worth troubling yourself with the File's, or
might be.

Russ


j...@plan9.bell-labs.com

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hm. would this be an appropriate project for someone new to the ``plan9
way'' or is it probably too ambitious?
(I have some experience with unix sockets, but I have not written any
plan9 networking software; for that matter, s/networking //.)

i'd be happy. the only use i have for a unix machine is as a place to
read news.

--jim

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