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Winston Kodogo

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May 30, 2012, 5:05:45 PM5/30/12
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I'd vote for spelling it Xerox, on the possibly spurious grounds that
a Chinese colleague of mine pronounced it "ex-rocks" for some time. I
still prefer his pronunciation, and have adopted it myself. The
initial "Z" just doesn't work for me.

andrew zerger

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May 30, 2012, 5:14:21 PM5/30/12
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In honor of plan9s utf imperitive, and after a little g-translate I think your Chinese colleague might prefer 复本 (fu`ben^) .. which .. takes up less screen space and to most new users would be about as eas to integrate mentally ;)
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Charles Forsyth

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May 30, 2012, 5:24:34 PM5/30/12
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The curious Z spelling was to avoid using a trademarked word in a generic sense.

Jason Catena

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May 31, 2012, 9:30:28 AM5/31/12
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There is a computer science concept analogous to what Zerox does. "Pass argument by reference" also provides a look-in to a point in memory without copying it. So if you want to name it something else, try changing it to CpRef.

dexen deVries

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May 31, 2012, 9:35:08 AM5/31/12
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+1

also, please provide `call-by-name' in Rc while you are at it ;-)


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David Leimbach

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May 31, 2012, 10:39:08 AM5/31/12
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On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Charles Forsyth <charles...@gmail.com> wrote:
The curious Z spelling was to avoid using a trademarked word in a generic sense.

But I believe Xerox lost that ability, as their name became a verb in the common vernacular.  At least I believe I heard that in a marketing class I had in college.  

That said, it seems people can and will sue for basically anything.  I vote we call it "Kevin" as a result.

Dave

andrey mirtchovski

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May 31, 2012, 10:52:24 AM5/31/12
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Xerox seems to have missed losing their trademark [1]. There's a
lawsuit filed about Google's trademarked name in arizona [2]. A list
of genericized trademarks is available at [3].

Ahh, litigation...

1: http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c6a7953ef0134851907f7970c-popup
2: http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/man-launches-lawsuit-to-have-googles-trademark-on-its-own-name-undone/
3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_generic_and_genericized_trademarks

David Leimbach

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May 31, 2012, 10:59:16 AM5/31/12
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On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:50 AM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtc...@gmail.com> wrote:
Xerox seems to have missed losing their trademark [1]. There's a
lawsuit filed about Google's trademarked name in arizona [2]. A list
of genericized trademarks is available at [3].

Ahh, litigation...


 
Ah well, I never bought that argument myself anyway :-).  It had something to do with fair use of things, which honestly, I think we're losing in the United States.

Dave 


Calvin Morrison

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May 31, 2012, 11:01:16 AM5/31/12
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It is better to ask forgiveness than permission -

Stephen Wiley

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May 31, 2012, 12:00:30 PM5/31/12
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On May 31, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote:

> It is better to ask forgiveness than permission -
>

Unless it's from a lawyer! :D

Wes Kussmaul

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May 31, 2012, 1:03:39 PM5/31/12
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On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 07:39 -0700, David Leimbach wrote:

> I vote we call it "Kevin" as a result.

Sell the naming rights!

Ethan Grammatikidis

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Jun 2, 2012, 9:18:14 PM6/2/12
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I believe I forgot to +1 a suggestion for "Dup" above. Dup reminds me
of dup(2) which I think is a close match.

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