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Dave Saville

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Apr 20, 2010, 11:05:39 AM4/20/10
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A long time ago I found a utility called mouseset. By default it dumps
settings related to your mouse. It also seems possible to enable extra
mouse buttons:

[D:\]mouseset
Operating System/2 Mouse Flags Modifier
Version 0.3.000 Dec 13 2001
(C) Copyright Martin Lafaix 2001
All rights reserved.

Usage: mouseset [option[:[ON|OFF|...]]] ...
/Query
/BUTTONn:scancode
/LEVEL1xx:scancode
/LEVEL2xx:scancode

Where: n = 4, 5, 6, or 7
xx = up, down, left, or right
and scancode = 16bit hex/octal/decimal number


However, as always, I have lost the documentation - if any - and
where I got it from. Anyone used it to enable extra buttons? ie beyond
3.

TIA
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Dave Saville

Dave Saville

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Apr 20, 2010, 3:35:38 PM4/20/10
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:46:53 UTC, "Frank Beythien"
<Nospa...@efbe.prima.de> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:05:39 UTC "Dave Saville" <da...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > A long time ago I found a utility called mouseset. By default it dumps
> > settings related to your mouse. It also seems possible to enable extra
> > mouse buttons:
> >
> > [D:\]mouseset
> > Operating System/2 Mouse Flags Modifier
> > Version 0.3.000 Dec 13 2001
> > (C) Copyright Martin Lafaix 2001
> > All rights reserved.
>

> You could try Martins homepage: http://lafaix.online.fr/

Hmm does not mention it and has not been updated for years. Will see
if the email works.
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Dave Saville

Ilya Zakharevich

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Apr 20, 2010, 3:54:02 PM4/20/10
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I'm using a cheap (about $10) 9-button mouse (= 2 scroll wheels, and 2
extras on the side) with amouse. The problem are

a) the second scrollwheel "operates wrong" - the effect is as
"inverted action of the first scrollwheel, plus pressing
mousebutton 2", not left-right (as I configured it).

b) The code to deliver PgUp/Dn events (for side buttons) is
(apparently) using different delivery mechanism than for one for
Up/Down keys. So scrolling using scrollwheel is reliable, but
side buttons crash some applications...

But I configured all this using the GUI of the amouse notebook. This
utility looks like a precursor to such a UI; maybe from older versions
of amouse?

Hope this helps,
Ilya

Dave Saville

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Apr 20, 2010, 4:08:13 PM4/20/10
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amouse is for USB rodents is it not? I am using a PS/2 trackball and
with the thinkpad in a docking station, sorry port replicator, there
would be no USB free if I used a USB mouse. I don't really trust USB
:-) Especially through a hub.
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Dave Saville

Frank Beythien

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Apr 20, 2010, 2:46:53 PM4/20/10
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:05:39 UTC "Dave Saville" <da...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

> A long time ago I found a utility called mouseset. By default it dumps


> settings related to your mouse. It also seems possible to enable extra
> mouse buttons:
>
> [D:\]mouseset
> Operating System/2 Mouse Flags Modifier
> Version 0.3.000 Dec 13 2001
> (C) Copyright Martin Lafaix 2001
> All rights reserved.

You could try Martins homepage: http://lafaix.online.fr/

> However, as always, I have lost the documentation - if any - and

> where I got it from. Anyone used it to enable extra buttons? ie beyond
> 3.

CU/2
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Frank Beythien fBeythien AT gmx.de

Peter Brown

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Apr 20, 2010, 7:19:05 PM4/20/10
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Hi Dave

Dave Saville wrote:
>

----- snip -----


I don't really trust USB
> :-) Especially through a hub.

Why not?

My Missus uses an M$ USB trackball through a USB Hub built in to an M$
Keyboard - works fine with eCS1.x, eCS2.0RCx

Regards

Pete

Trevor Hemsley

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Apr 20, 2010, 9:37:06 PM4/20/10
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:08:13 UTC in comp.os.os2.utilities, "Dave Saville"
<da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> amouse is for USB rodents is it not?

No, amouse provides a better PS2 driver than the IBM one. It makes the scroll
wheel on my Logiteck trackball work without additional software. Well worth a
try.

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Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
Trevor dot Hemsley at ntlworld dot com

Dave Saville

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Apr 21, 2010, 2:16:45 PM4/21/10
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:37:06 UTC, "Trevor Hemsley"
<Trevor....@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:08:13 UTC in comp.os.os2.utilities, "Dave Saville"
> <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > amouse is for USB rodents is it not?
>
> No, amouse provides a better PS2 driver than the IBM one. It makes the scroll
> wheel on my Logiteck trackball work without additional software. Well worth a
> try.
>

OK I got amouse from the German site. WPI install puts in the amouse
driver but does not rem out the IBM one - boot halt "two mouse
drivers". Sorted that. It sort of knows what I have, Logitech marble
FX trackball, in that it thinks I have a wheel but I cannot get it to
*do* anything other than what it did with the IBM driver. Have
rebooted several times and the only thing that works is the scrolling
- and that is done by XWP. Turn that off ZWP MB3 stuff and nothing
happens. I can't get any buttons to do anything. Maybe this is because
it is a PS/2 mouse on a Thinkpad?
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Dave Saville

Trevor Hemsley

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Apr 21, 2010, 2:43:20 PM4/21/10
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:16:45 UTC in comp.os.os2.utilities, "Dave Saville"
<da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Turn that off ZWP MB3 stuff and nothing
> happens. I can't get any buttons to do anything. Maybe this is because
> it is a PS/2 mouse on a Thinkpad?

Look in the readme and it says something about it taking the capabilities of the
mouse from the first detected which on laptops is always the embedded PS2 one.
You can override this with something like /DEVICE:1

Dave Saville

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Apr 21, 2010, 3:05:17 PM4/21/10
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:43:20 UTC, "Trevor Hemsley"
<Trevor....@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:16:45 UTC in comp.os.os2.utilities, "Dave Saville"
> <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Turn that off ZWP MB3 stuff and nothing
> > happens. I can't get any buttons to do anything. Maybe this is because
> > it is a PS/2 mouse on a Thinkpad?
>
> Look in the readme and it says something about it taking the capabilities of the
> mouse from the first detected which on laptops is always the embedded PS2 one.
> You can override this with something like /DEVICE:1
>

Yes I saw that but the example was for a USB mouse so I assumed it was
only for that combo. It knows it is a Logitech and it thinks it has a
wheel - all the wheel pages show. Just nothing happens.

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Dave Saville

Dave Saville

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Apr 21, 2010, 3:31:59 PM4/21/10
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:43:20 UTC, "Trevor Hemsley"
<Trevor....@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:16:45 UTC in comp.os.os2.utilities, "Dave Saville"
> <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Turn that off ZWP MB3 stuff and nothing
> > happens. I can't get any buttons to do anything. Maybe this is because
> > it is a PS/2 mouse on a Thinkpad?
>
> Look in the readme and it says something about it taking the capabilities of the
> mouse from the first detected which on laptops is always the embedded PS2 one.
> You can override this with something like /DEVICE:1
>

Definitely seeing the trackball. Boot without and amouse says "no
wheel device present" or words to that effect.
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Dave Saville

Ilya Zakharevich

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Apr 21, 2010, 4:17:54 PM4/21/10
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On 2010-04-20, Dave Saville <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> amouse is for USB rodents is it not?

AFAIK, works with everything. (I use it with TP touchstick, USB and PS2.)

> I don't really trust USB :-) Especially through a hub.

So start trusting it....

Yours,
Ilya

Ilya Zakharevich

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Apr 21, 2010, 4:21:09 PM4/21/10
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On 2010-04-21, Dave Saville <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Definitely seeing the trackball. Boot without and amouse says "no
> wheel device present" or words to that effect.

Peruse the README. There is the intelligence of the driver, and the
intelligence of the OS it is speaking to. Turns out that OS is
stupid, and does not allow the driver to "do its magic"...

Hope this helps,
Ilya

Dave Saville

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Apr 21, 2010, 5:38:38 PM4/21/10
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Not a lot. I can't see anything in the readme or the inf file that
helps. What exactly are you referring to?

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Dave Saville

Trevor Hemsley

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Apr 22, 2010, 9:54:36 AM4/22/10
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:16:45 UTC in comp.os.os2.utilities, "Dave Saville"
<da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:37:06 UTC, "Trevor Hemsley"
> <Trevor....@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:08:13 UTC in comp.os.os2.utilities, "Dave Saville"
> > <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > amouse is for USB rodents is it not?
> >
> > No, amouse provides a better PS2 driver than the IBM one. It makes the scroll
> > wheel on my Logiteck trackball work without additional software. Well worth a
> > try.
> >
>
> OK I got amouse from the German site. WPI install puts in the amouse
> driver but does not rem out the IBM one - boot halt "two mouse
> drivers". Sorted that. It sort of knows what I have, Logitech marble
> FX trackball, in that it thinks I have a wheel but I cannot get it to
> *do* anything other than what it did with the IBM driver. Have
> rebooted several times and the only thing that works is the scrolling
> - and that is done by XWP. Turn that off ZWP MB3 stuff and nothing
> happens. I can't get any buttons to do anything. Maybe this is because
> it is a PS/2 mouse on a Thinkpad?

Did you run the "Configure Amouse" program inside the Scoll Mouse folder? Or
from System Setup if you chose to use WPS integration? I have 5 pages of
configuration options there and have been using it so long that I have no idea
what the defaults were but I do remember that it did not very much until I told
it to.

Dave Saville

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Apr 22, 2010, 12:16:56 PM4/22/10
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:54:36 UTC, "Trevor Hemsley"
<Trevor....@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> wrote:

Yes, the one in the mouse folder. I saw no option for "WPS
integration" it's a wpi install. And the docs say those pages are
added to the system mouse notebook - but there are not.

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Dave Saville

Ilya Zakharevich

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Apr 22, 2010, 3:56:30 PM4/22/10
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On 2010-04-21, Dave Saville <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:21:09 UTC, Ilya Zakharevich
><nospam...@ilyaz.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-04-21, Dave Saville <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> > Definitely seeing the trackball. Boot without and amouse says "no
>> > wheel device present" or words to that effect.
>>
>> Peruse the README. There is the intelligence of the driver, and the
>> intelligence of the OS it is speaking to. Turns out that OS is
>> stupid, and does not allow the driver to "do its magic"...

> Not a lot. I can't see anything in the readme or the inf file that

> helps. What exactly are you referring to?

Do not remember the exact phrase, but it was already mentioned in the
thread. The OS does not allow driver to serve more buttons than the
first discovered mouse has.

Yours,
Ilya

Dave Saville

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Apr 22, 2010, 4:52:33 PM4/22/10
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:56:30 UTC, Ilya Zakharevich
<nospam...@ilyaz.org> wrote:

> On 2010-04-21, Dave Saville <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:21:09 UTC, Ilya Zakharevich
> ><nospam...@ilyaz.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2010-04-21, Dave Saville <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> > Definitely seeing the trackball. Boot without and amouse says "no
> >> > wheel device present" or words to that effect.
> >>
> >> Peruse the README. There is the intelligence of the driver, and the
> >> intelligence of the OS it is speaking to. Turns out that OS is
> >> stupid, and does not allow the driver to "do its magic"...
>
> > Not a lot. I can't see anything in the readme or the inf file that
> > helps. What exactly are you referring to?
>
> Do not remember the exact phrase, but it was already mentioned in the
> thread. The OS does not allow driver to serve more buttons than the
> first discovered mouse has.

The first detected mouse is the trackball and it just says buttons >2
- It actually has 4
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Dave Saville

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