Download Problem w/AT&T dialer, Netscape 4.61 causing system hangs
Al Savage
> Recently started having hangs of the system when I try to download the
> new phone list for the AT&T Global Network dialer (v1.70). As soon as
> the download software button is pushed, the WPS hangs and a soft re-boot
> (ctrl-alt-del) is required. Also have experienced hangs when running
> Netscape 4.61. Machine has 128k of ram and has had no changes
> system-wise since the install of FP15 on 12-21-01.
I know this is going to sound like a major tangent, but I ran FP15 for
years, and could never go more than 10 days without a hung WPS (clock
runs, mouse moves, but you can't do anything).
Since applying FP17, I am now at 28 days uptime, which for this box is a
record. Other boxes that see less GUI use still run reasonably well
with FP15. (I'm also running the 20031113 kernel.)
Summary: if you have access to FP17, I am ready to recommend it.
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Regards,
Al S.
This OS/2 system ("Tori", W4 FP17) uptime is 28 days 05:53 hours
Wolf Kirchmeir
=>Summary: if you have access to FP17, I am ready to recommend it.
Acess? How? Where?
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Wolf Kirchmeir
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Al Savage
<wwol...@sympatico.can> wrote:
> =>Summary: if you have access to FP17, I am ready to recommend it.
>
> Acess? How? Where?
The usual places: IBM Software Choice (now Passport Advantage) or
Serenity System's eCS. Giving money to either of those entities will
allow you to download FP17, which seems to have vastly increased uptime
on this particular box.
The last free IBM OS/2 base OS FixPak was FP15, in November, 2000, I
think.
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Regards,
Al S.
This OS/2 system ("Tori", W4 FP17) uptime is 29 days 06:00 hours
Steve Wendt
>>=>Summary: if you have access to FP17, I am ready to recommend it.
>>
>>Acess? How? Where?
>
> The usual places: IBM Software Choice (now Passport Advantage) or
> Serenity System's eCS. Giving money to either of those entities will
> allow you to download FP17, which seems to have vastly increased uptime
> on this particular box.
I'm pretty sure it's not available from the eCS site (not entirely
surprising, since it doesn't apply to their versions).
Al Savage
wrote:
> > The usual places: IBM Software Choice (now Passport Advantage) or
> > Serenity System's eCS. Giving money to either of those entities will
>
> I'm pretty sure it's not available from the eCS site (not entirely
> surprising, since it doesn't apply to their versions).
Right. Sorry, not thinking (again).
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Regards,
Al S.
This OS/2 system ("Tori", W4 FP17) uptime is 29 days 09:23 hours
Al Savage
wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it's not available from the eCS site (not entirely
> surprising, since it doesn't apply to their versions).
Wait a sec . . . I thought that I understood that all SWC (and, by
extension, PA) OS/2 reserved features are available to eCS licensees. I
realize that eCS is not based upon W4, but rather MCP, but does this
imply that FP16/FP17 aren't available via Serenity? Perhaps an eCS
licensee (or Bob St. John) can comment.
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Regards,
Al S.
This OS/2 system ("Tori", W4 FP17) uptime is 29 days 09:32 hours
Peter Moylan
>On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 04:17:08 UTC, Steve Wendt <spa...@forgetit.org>
>wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure it's not available from the eCS site (not entirely
>> surprising, since it doesn't apply to their versions).
>
>Wait a sec . . . I thought that I understood that all SWC (and, by
>extension, PA) OS/2 reserved features are available to eCS licensees. I
>realize that eCS is not based upon W4, but rather MCP, but does this
>imply that FP16/FP17 aren't available via Serenity? Perhaps an eCS
>licensee (or Bob St. John) can comment.
The "as delivered" copies of eCS come with the fixpacks already
applied, so you don't have to download them separately.
Fixes that arrived after eCS was released are available for download.
Actually, the best way to do the download is to use Chuck McKinniss's
fixtool for eCS, because it works out what fix level you're up to
and automatically applies the right fixpacks. A bit like the
"Retrieve software updates" that IBM used to have, but a lot
smarter in terms of figuring out prerequisites, and it also handles
things like device drivers that come from sources other than IBM.
Applying fixes is now a lot easier than it used to be in the days
of Warp 4.
--
Peter Moylan Peter....@newcastle.edu.au
http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au (OS/2 and eCS information and software)
Al Savage
Moylan) wrote:
> Fixes that arrived after eCS was released are available for download.
Is FP17 available to eCS licensees?
> Applying fixes is now a lot easier than it used to be in the days
> of Warp 4.
Well, that's not hard to do ;)
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Regards,
Al S.
This OS/2 system ("Tori", W4 FP17) uptime is 29 days 17:24 hours
m...@privacy.net
at 06:02 AM, pe...@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan) said:
...snipped...
>Fixes that arrived after eCS was released are available for download.
>Actually, the best way to do the download is to use Chuck McKinniss's
>fixtool for eCS, because it works out what fix level you're up to and
>automatically applies the right fixpacks. A bit like the "Retrieve
>software updates" that IBM used to have, but a lot smarter in terms of
>figuring out prerequisites, and it also handles things like device
>drivers that come from sources other than IBM. Applying fixes is now a
>lot easier than it used to be in the days of Warp 4.
I agree that Chuck's tool is great, if it works on your system. I am
having problems with it on my TP600E at present. I had neglected to keep
this system current for a while and had the 1.12.0 version of it
installed. When I started it I was told that an update existed, but when
I attempted to download it got "file not found" from wget so I guess I
waited too long to try to upgrade from 1.12.0 automatically.
I downloaded the 2.1.5.7 version of the tool manually and installed it
over my 1.12.0 version. When I attempt to start 2.1.5.7 it starts and
then crashes with an error complaining about one of my drives.
I have attempted to contact Chuck by e-mail and posted a bugtracker report
about this, but I have yet to receive a response. I will be keeping an
eye open for a response from Chuck or a newer release that will hopefully
address whatever it doesn't like about my system.
-- Dave
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Marty
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:02:28 UTC, pe...@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter
> Moylan) wrote:
>
>>Fixes that arrived after eCS was released are available for download.
>
> Is FP17 available to eCS licensees?
Nope. eCS licensees only have access to things that can apply to eCS.
Having W4FP17 available would just confuse the issue.
Will Honea
wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:02:28 UTC, pe...@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter
> Moylan) wrote:
>
> > Fixes that arrived after eCS was released are available for download.
>
> Is FP17 available to eCS licensees?
Why? XR_C004 (FP4) is the applicable fix for eCS/MCP/ACP so why
bother? Best I can tell, FP17 is essentially contemporary. Besides,
I doubt seriously that CSF would even allow it to be applied to eCS -
different product codes.
> > Applying fixes is now a lot easier than it used to be in the days
> > of Warp 4.
>
> Well, that's not hard to do ;)
Maybe I've become dulled by time, but I don't see any difference worth
shouting about. The eCS maintainance program does simplify finding
(or finding out about) fixes but that's about all I see. I'm not
knocking it - it's handy - but hardly revoluyionary. Chuck has done a
nice job on it.
--
Will Honea <who...@codenet.net>
nob...@junk.min.net
>I downloaded the 2.1.5.7 version of the tool manually and installed it
>over my 1.12.0 version. When I attempt to start 2.1.5.7 it starts and
>then crashes with an error complaining about one of my drives.
2.1.5.8 is available. Maybe even 2.1.5.9 by now. Check the ecs website.
Alan
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> In <slrnc1h8f...@eepjm.newcastle.edu.au>, on 01/29/2004
> at 06:02 AM, pe...@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan) said:
>
> ...snipped...
>
> >Fixes that arrived after eCS was released are available for download.
> >Actually, the best way to do the download is to use Chuck McKinniss's
> >fixtool for eCS, because it works out what fix level you're up to and
> >automatically applies the right fixpacks. A bit like the "Retrieve
> >software updates" that IBM used to have, but a lot smarter in terms of
> >figuring out prerequisites, and it also handles things like device
> >drivers that come from sources other than IBM. Applying fixes is now a
> >lot easier than it used to be in the days of Warp 4.
>
> I agree that Chuck's tool is great, if it works on your system. I am
> having problems with it on my TP600E at present. I had neglected to keep
> this system current for a while and had the 1.12.0 version of it
> installed. When I started it I was told that an update existed, but when
> I attempted to download it got "file not found" from wget so I guess I
> waited too long to try to upgrade from 1.12.0 automatically.
There was a problem in ecsmt for many, many versions: it was unable to
install itself over an older version. Sometimes it was even unable to
see a never wersion of itself on the server. But since 2.1.9 these
problems are gone.
Whenever you have an older version you must go manually to the
download page and download ecsmt manually. And then install it
manually.
eCSMT uses since some versions WarpIN to install itself. So an
preinstalled WarpIN 1.0.1 is a prerequisite for it. You finds WPI
1.0.1 on eCS CD #2. By that: WPI has a problem with itself! It will
not dedect that it is installed when it gets not installed twice!
That means:
1. install WPI anywhere you like
2. thereafter install it over itself. This resolves the problem.
When you feels kile many other peoples do that EPM is a bit crappy (it
is definitely!): go to
http://www.netlabs.org/
and download NEPMD
It is a dream of an editor because it comes much better configured as
the one in OS/2 WARP, MCP and eCS and contains more fuctionality too.
>
> I downloaded the 2.1.5.7 version of the tool manually and installed it
> over my 1.12.0 version. When I attempt to start 2.1.5.7 it starts and
> then crashes with an error complaining about one of my drives.
This is a known problem. Download 2.1.5.8 or newer. You have to
install this manually because 2.1.5.7 will NOT detect it.
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Tschau/Bye
Herbert
Visit http://www.ecomstation.de the home of german eComStation
m...@privacy.net
01/29/2004
>In <401907aa$1$quqhetrr$mr2...@news.individual.net>, on 01/29/04
> at 08:08 AM, m...@privacy.net said:
>>I downloaded the 2.1.5.7 version of the tool manually and installed it
>>over my 1.12.0 version. When I attempt to start 2.1.5.7 it starts and
>>then crashes with an error complaining about one of my drives.
>2.1.5.8 is available. Maybe even 2.1.5.9 by now. Check the ecs website.
I had noticed this yesterday and now have tried 2.1.5.8, 2.1.5.9 and just
for good measure 2.1.4.9 as well. All of them crash in the same manner as
2.1.5.7, so I have no working version of the tool. I have entered
information on each of these in the eCS bugtracker, hopefully this will
give Chuck the information he needs to fix this problem.
m...@privacy.net
at 10:39 PM, "The Real OS/2 Guy" <os2...@pc-rosenau.de> said:
...snipped...
>This is a known problem. Download 2.1.5.8 or newer. You have to install
>this manually because 2.1.5.7 will NOT detect it.
I have downloaded and installed both 2.1.5.8 and 2.1.5.9 and hit the same
problem with them that I am hitting with 2.1.5.7, so I conclude that the
problem is not the known problem that has been corrected. I also
downloaded 2.1.4.9 and verified that the problem is present in that
release as well. I have posted information from all of these in the eCS
bugtracker.
The Real OS/2 Guy
> In <wmzsGguTDN6N-pn2-MscdX04dLMuL@moon>, on 01/29/2004
> at 10:39 PM, "The Real OS/2 Guy" <os2...@pc-rosenau.de> said:
>
> ...snipped...
>
> >This is a known problem. Download 2.1.5.8 or newer. You have to install
> >this manually because 2.1.5.7 will NOT detect it.
>
> I have downloaded and installed both 2.1.5.8 and 2.1.5.9 and hit the same
> problem with them that I am hitting with 2.1.5.7, so I conclude that the
> problem is not the known problem that has been corrected. I also
> downloaded 2.1.4.9 and verified that the problem is present in that
> release as well. I have posted information from all of these in the eCS
> bugtracker.
You vorgot to mention which is your system? eCS 1.0? eCS 1.1? eCSMT
works dependant on the system and language on the system.
On my eCS 1.1 german
- 2.1.4.9 was working - but to able to upgrade itself
- 2.1 5.7 was working - even upgrade to 2.1.5.8 was working
- 2.1.5.8 runs well
has you downloaded ecsmtaux, ecsmtopt and ecsmtreq?
Please run chkdesk.cmd (in the directory ecsmt.exe is sitting).
Thereafter a reboot is required.
You should go to
news://news.ecomstation.nl with your mozilla
or insert news.ecomstation.nl as new (second) server to your news
reader.
and then subscribe to
ecomstation.support.ecsmt
Chuck is reading this group continuosely. He will give you further
hints there.
nob...@junk.min.net
>>2.1.5.8 is available. Maybe even 2.1.5.9 by now. Check the ecs website.
>I had noticed this yesterday and now have tried 2.1.5.8, 2.1.5.9 and just
>for good measure 2.1.4.9 as well. All of them crash in the same manner
>as 2.1.5.7, so I have no working version of the tool. I have entered
>information on each of these in the eCS bugtracker, hopefully this will
>give Chuck the information he needs to fix this problem.
Hopefully, he'll figure out what's up.
The Real OS/2 Guy
> In <401a543b$3$quqhetrr$mr2...@news.individual.net>, on 01/30/04
> at 07:52 AM, m...@privacy.net said:
>
> >>2.1.5.8 is available. Maybe even 2.1.5.9 by now. Check the ecs website.
>
> >I had noticed this yesterday and now have tried 2.1.5.8, 2.1.5.9 and just
> >for good measure 2.1.4.9 as well. All of them crash in the same manner
> >as 2.1.5.7, so I have no working version of the tool. I have entered
> >information on each of these in the eCS bugtracker, hopefully this will
> >give Chuck the information he needs to fix this problem.
>
> Hopefully, he'll figure out what's up.
>
2.1.6.0 is out.
m...@privacy.net
at 01:41 AM, "The Real OS/2 Guy" <os2...@pc-rosenau.de> said:
>2.1.6.0 is out.
I just tried this release and got a similar error. Per your prior post I
have downloaded and placed ecsmtopt.exe and ecsmtreq.exe in my directory
with the ecsmt.exe, but I still see the error. I could not find
"ecsmtaux" on the eCS server, is there a typo in this or has it been moved
out of the directory with the numbered release?
The Real OS/2 Guy
> In <wmzsGguTDN6N-pn2-csghORIK7cSd@moon>, on 02/01/2004
> at 01:41 AM, "The Real OS/2 Guy" <os2...@pc-rosenau.de> said:
>
> >2.1.6.0 is out.
>
> I just tried this release and got a similar error. Per your prior post I
> have downloaded and placed ecsmtopt.exe and ecsmtreq.exe in my directory
> with the ecsmt.exe, but I still see the error. I could not find
> "ecsmtaux" on the eCS server, is there a typo in this or has it been moved
> out of the directory with the numbered release?
Please read ecsmt216.txt in the directory you've installed ecsmt.