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OS/2 maximum hard drive HPFS partition size

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F. Heitkamp

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Sep 26, 2004, 8:24:11 PM9/26/04
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What is the maximum HPFS partition size for OS/2 Warp 3 and/or Warp 4?

I installed OS/2 Warp 4 Server on a machine and could only get it to
install in a 2GB (or so) partition. Now that I have it installed and the
latest fixpacks applied I was wondering if I could use Partition Magic to
increase the size of the partition to one more useable.

I looked around on the 'net for a answer and it seems HPFS supports large
(> several GBs) partitions but I am not sure about bootmanager, OS/2, and OS/2
application programs.

I assume if you have DOS or WIN 3.1 installed, larger partitions may be
problematic.

Fred


tho...@antispam.ham

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Sep 26, 2004, 8:38:15 PM9/26/04
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F. Heitkamp writes:

> What is the maximum HPFS partition size for OS/2 Warp 3 and/or Warp 4?
>
> I installed OS/2 Warp 4 Server on a machine and could only get it to
> install in a 2GB (or so) partition.

There is a difference between the maximum partition size for HPFS and
the maximum partition size for the boot partition. The latter depends
on your BIOS.

The OS/2 Guy

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Sep 26, 2004, 6:07:03 PM9/26/04
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I'll confirm. I have 7 volumes (partitions) of 10GIG each, 1 volume
(partition) of 950 meg and a boot partition of 50 meg. This is with the
latest release of OS/2 Warp 4.52 from IBM. I have a second 80GIG hard
drive in the Ultra Bay (Thinkpad T30) and it is sliced up in 10GIG
volumes or partitions. Every partition is HPFS. This was all done
using the LVM that comes with OS/2.

Tim Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
email: OS2...@Gmail.com also eCS...@Gmail.com
alternate email: Official...@Gmail.com

Don Hills

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Sep 26, 2004, 9:10:06 PM9/26/04
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In article <L4J5d.738$Rf1...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,

heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) wrote:
>What is the maximum HPFS partition size for OS/2 Warp 3 and/or Warp 4?
>
>I installed OS/2 Warp 4 Server on a machine and could only get it to
>install in a 2GB (or so) partition. Now that I have it installed and the
>latest fixpacks applied I was wondering if I could use Partition Magic to
>increase the size of the partition to one more useable.

It depends on fixpak level, amongst other things. The main problem is that
early versions of CHKDSK choke on very large partitions. With the latest
disk drivers and FDISK, you should be able to use 64 GB or so. I'll leave it
to someone who's actually tried big disks to give a definitive statement.

>I looked around on the 'net for a answer and it seems HPFS supports large
>(> several GBs) partitions but I am not sure about bootmanager, OS/2, and OS/2
>application programs.

Bootmanager level depends on the level of FDISK used.
OS/2 and the majority of OS/2 apps are fine.

>I assume if you have DOS or WIN 3.1 installed, larger partitions may be
>problematic.

You'll get spurious "disk size" errors from apps that try to measure disk
size or remaining free space. Apps that don't care will work fine.

--
Don Hills (dmhills at attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New Zealand
It's ironic that people who are too smart to engage in politics
are governed by people who are not as smart.

F. Heitkamp

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Sep 27, 2004, 6:32:02 AM9/27/04
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In message <uh2VBtga...@attglobal.net> - dmh...@attglobal.net (Don

Hills)Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:10:06 +1200 writes:
>
>In article <L4J5d.738$Rf1...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>,
>heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) wrote:
>>What is the maximum HPFS partition size for OS/2 Warp 3 and/or Warp 4?
>>
>
>Bootmanager level depends on the level of FDISK used.
>OS/2 and the majority of OS/2 apps are fine.

This is my fdisk. I thought there was a command that would tell you
the version of a file, but I can't seem to remember what it is.

7-24-00 9:46p 113658 0 FDISK.COM

Fred

F. Heitkamp

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Sep 27, 2004, 6:39:27 AM9/27/04
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In message <41576...@news3.prserv.net> - Sun, 26 Sep 2004 18:07:03 -0400The

OS/2 Guy <OS2...@Gmail.com> writes:
>
>tho...@antispam.ham wrote:
>> F. Heitkamp writes:
>>
>>>What is the maximum HPFS partition size for OS/2 Warp 3 and/or Warp 4?
>
>I'll confirm. I have 7 volumes (partitions) of 10GIG each, 1 volume
>(partition) of 950 meg and a boot partition of 50 meg. This is with the
>latest release of OS/2 Warp 4.52 from IBM. I have a second 80GIG hard
>drive in the Ultra Bay (Thinkpad T30) and it is sliced up in 10GIG
>volumes or partitions. Every partition is HPFS. This was all done
>using the LVM that comes with OS/2.
>

This particular OS/2 setup does not have LVM.

I could never get the small-boot-partition or rescue partition setup to
work. Usually a lot of applications want to be on "C:" or OS/2 finds
the other partition and seems to work eratically. Is there a nice how-to
somewhere?

Fred

Don Hills

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Sep 27, 2004, 9:56:55 AM9/27/04
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In article <C_R5d.11173$Qv5....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,

heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) wrote:
>
>This is my fdisk. I thought there was a command that would tell you
>the version of a file, but I can't seem to remember what it is.
>
> 7-24-00 9:46p 113658 0 FDISK.COM

There is a SYSLEVEL command, but it doesn't check the level of individual
files. The date is about right for it to be the one from FP13, which I don't
have - I didn't get past FP10 on any of my Warp 4 systems because there was
nothing that needed fixing.

The OS/2 Guy

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Sep 27, 2004, 7:04:50 AM9/27/04
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F. Heitkamp wrote:
>
> This is my fdisk. I thought there was a command that would tell you
> the version of a file, but I can't seem to remember what it is.
>
> 7-24-00 9:46p 113658 0 FDISK.COM

Warp 4.52 - mine is dated 8-17-2002 and is 14,794 in size.

Bob Eager

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Sep 27, 2004, 10:33:13 AM9/27/04
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:56:55 UTC, dmh...@attglobal.net (Don Hills)
wrote:

> In article <C_R5d.11173$Qv5....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>,
> heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) wrote:
> >
> >This is my fdisk. I thought there was a command that would tell you
> >the version of a file, but I can't seem to remember what it is.
> >
> > 7-24-00 9:46p 113658 0 FDISK.COM
>
> There is a SYSLEVEL command, but it doesn't check the level of individual
> files. The date is about right for it to be the one from FP13, which I don't
> have - I didn't get past FP10 on any of my Warp 4 systems because there was
> nothing that needed fixing.

He's thinking of BLDLEVEL, which works on those files that include such
information.

--
Bob Eager


Don Hills

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Sep 27, 2004, 11:20:51 AM9/27/04
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In article <41581...@news3.prserv.net>, The OS/2 Guy <OS2...@Gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Warp 4.52 - mine is dated 8-17-2002 and is 14,794 in size.

Yours is smaller than his, then. No surprise there.
Not only that, yours doesn't actually do anything useful.
No surprise there either.
(All it does is tell you to run LVM.)

Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

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Sep 27, 2004, 2:01:44 PM9/27/04
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In <L4J5d.738$Rf1...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>, on 09/27/2004

at 12:24 AM, heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) said:

>I installed OS/2 Warp 4 Server on a machine and could only get it to
>install in a 2GB (or so) partition.

IDE or SCSI? The size limits are different. Also, have you considered
upgrading to the current release?

>I looked around on the 'net for a answer and it seems HPFS supports
>large (> several GBs) partitions but I am not sure about
>bootmanager, OS/2, and OS/2 application programs.

Don't forget BIOS issues. But I'm not aware of any applications with
size limits.

>I assume if you have DOS or WIN 3.1 installed, larger partitions may
>be problematic.

That sounds like a good guess, but I haven't got any 'doze
applications and I haven't tried any DOS applications on logical
drives larger than 2GB.

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The OS/2 Guy

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Sep 27, 2004, 12:38:22 PM9/27/04
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Don Hills wrote:
> In article <41581...@news3.prserv.net>, The OS/2 Guy <OS2...@Gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Warp 4.52 - mine is dated 8-17-2002 and is 14,794 in size.
>
>
> Yours is smaller than his, then. No surprise there.

That would mean his is bloated and prone to premature failure.

> Not only that, yours doesn't actually do anything useful.

Says the fat old guy with a posterior that hangs over his computer
chair. Mine actually makes my OS/2 system work well.

> No surprise there either.

I don't think anyone here is surprised by your stupidity Don. We've all
had to deal with it for quite sometime.

Heiko

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Sep 27, 2004, 5:48:13 PM9/27/04
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HPFS supports partition sizes up to 64GB. I had partitions
of around 40GB long time ago before I moved to JFS.

Though for checkdisk you need the CHKDSK.SYS base driver.
Otherwise checkdisk will usually not be able to complete a
full disk analysis because of memory restrictions. And,
a checkdisk run on such a large partition needs a lot of time.

The limit for the boot partition depends on the BIOS.
The partion has to be completely within the first 1024 cylinders.
With BIOS not much older than 5 years a size of up to 4GB should be
reachable. Usually 2GB is a good size. I use 1.5GB and still have 740MB left.

Some older applications might have trouble with partition sizes
larger than 2GB. For DOS/WIN3.1 there are drivers (VCOMPAT, V2GB)
available which can reduce the amount of free disk space to applications
to 2GB in a VDM.

Heiko

Bob Eager

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Sep 27, 2004, 6:05:11 PM9/27/04
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:48:13 UTC, Heiko <h7n2n...@gmx.net> wrote:

> The limit for the boot partition depends on the BIOS.
> The partion has to be completely within the first 1024 cylinders.

Not with any reasonably recent BIOS (last 4-5 years); that will have INT
13 extensions and be able to boot well past the 8GB limit (and 1024
cyls).
--
Bob Eager


Heiko

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Sep 27, 2004, 6:32:54 PM9/27/04
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You're right ;) .

I'm running an AMD64 system here with 320GB disk space in sum.
I wrongly assumed that his system is not that recent as he referred
to Warp 4 (without LVM).

Heiko

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F. Heitkamp

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Sep 28, 2004, 8:21:27 AM9/28/04
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In message <41586398$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net> - "Shmuel (Seymour
J.) Metz" <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid>Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:01:44 -0300
writes:

>
>In <L4J5d.738$Rf1...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>, on 09/27/2004
> at 12:24 AM, heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) said:
>
>>I installed OS/2 Warp 4 Server on a machine and could only get it to
>>install in a 2GB (or so) partition.
>
>IDE or SCSI? The size limits are different. Also, have you considered
>upgrading to the current release?
>
This particular OS/2 is on a SCSI drive.

There are a number of posts from myself about this OS/2 setup. In a nutshell
I wanted to try the SMP version of OS/2 and the only one I could get working
so far was OS/2 Warp 4 SMP Advanced. People told me that getting Warp 4.52 to
run SMP only requires a few extra files which are available in various places,
but I was unable to get it to work when I tried it some time ago. When I
uncommented the line in config.sys (after getting all the additional files)
PSD=OS2APIC.PSD, which seems to tell OS/2 that it is running SMP, this same
machine with OS/2 4.52 would hang. This machine runs fine (except for a
network problem I am having at the moment) in SMP, very snappy and crisp
response.

Fred

F. Heitkamp

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Sep 28, 2004, 8:25:17 AM9/28/04
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In message <cja4eq$pt8$03$1...@news.t-online.com> - Heiko
<h7n2n...@gmx.net>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 00:32:54 +0200 writes:

If "he" refers to me, my machine is a ASUS A7M266-D with athlon MP 2800+,
Radeon 8500LE, LSI20140 SCSI card, 1GB RAM, and the latest beta BIOS from
ASUS. OS/2 is on a 18GB IBM SCSI disk.

Don Hills

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Sep 29, 2004, 6:39:50 AM9/29/04
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In article <41586...@news3.prserv.net>, The OS/2 Guy <OS2...@Gmail.com> wrote:
>
>That would mean his is bloated and prone to premature failure.

You're just jealous.

>Says the fat old guy with a posterior that hangs over his computer
>chair. Mine actually makes my OS/2 system work well.

Exactly how does your saggy posterior make your OS/2 system work well?
Inquiring minds want to know...

Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

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Sep 29, 2004, 9:36:26 AM9/29/04
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In <bHc6d.11350$Qv5....@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>, on 09/28/2004

at 12:21 PM, heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) said:

>This particular OS/2 is on a SCSI drive.

Then I'm pretty sure that you can go larger than 2GB; I don't recall
what FP you need.

>People told me that getting Warp 4.52 to
>run SMP only requires a few extra files which are available in
>various places,

Is that legal?

>I wanted to try the SMP version of OS/2 and the only one I could get
>working so far was OS/2 Warp 4 SMP Advanced.

Have you reported the problem?

In your place I would upgrade to the SMP version of eCS and then use
Serenity's service channel if it didn't work. You're a lot more likely
to have all of the required pieces that way.

Michael Baldwin Bruce

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Sep 30, 2004, 1:03:34 AM9/30/04
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tho...@antispam.ham wrote in message news:<XhJ5d.20699$OB2....@twister.socal.rr.com>...

One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treddle, bruce.

Richard Steiner

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Sep 30, 2004, 11:05:59 PM9/30/04
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Here in comp.os.os2.misc,
mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) spake unto us, saying:

>One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treddle, bruce.

Splunge! (fnord)

--
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OS/2 + eCS + Linux + Win95 + DOS + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
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Michael Baldwin Bruce

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rste...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote in message news:<XmMXBpHp...@visi.com>...

> Here in comp.os.os2.misc,
> mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) spake unto us, saying:
>
> >One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treddle, bruce.
>
> Splunge! (fnord)

No, no, no, hold your head like this, and then go 'waaagh'! Try it again, bruce.

Lady Chatterly

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Oct 1, 2004, 9:22:13 PM10/1/04
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In article <602faa6b.04100...@posting.google.com>,

Fancy that!

--
Lady Chatterly

"Shut your fucking bot up, it's grating on my nerves." --
theoneflasehaddock

Michael Baldwin Bruce

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Lady Chatterly <mbb...@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message news:<ebc931b....@chatterly.comcast.com>...

> In article <602faa6b.04100...@posting.google.com>,
> mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) wrote:
> >
> >rste...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote in message news:<XmMXBpHp...@visi.com>...
> >> Here in comp.os.os2.misc,
> >> mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) spake unto us, saying:
> >>
> >> >One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treddle, bruce.
> >>
> >> Splunge! (fnord)
> >
> >No, no, no, hold your head like this, and then go 'waaagh'! Try it again, bruce.
>
> Fancy that!

Better. Better. But 'waaaaaghh'! 'Waaaagh'! Hold your hands here ...

Lady Chatterly

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Oct 2, 2004, 5:50:06 AM10/2/04
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In article <602faa6b.04100...@posting.google.com>,
mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) wrote:
>
>Lady Chatterly <mbb...@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message news:<ebc931b....@chatterly.comcast.com>...
>> In article <602faa6b.04100...@posting.google.com>,
>> mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) wrote:
>> >
>> >rste...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote in message news:<XmMXBpHp...@visi.com>...
>> >> Here in comp.os.os2.misc,
>> >> mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) spake unto us, saying:
>> >>
>> >> >One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treddle, bruce.
>> >>
>> >> Splunge! (fnord)
>> >
>> >No, no, no, hold your head like this, and then go 'waaagh'! Try it again, bruce.
>>
>> Fancy that!
>
>Better. Better. But 'waaaaaghh'! 'Waaaagh'! Hold your hands here ...

Do you know what New South Wales's state slogan is?

--
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"She's a bot, you moron. I do hear that she's a bot with nice tits
though." -- Homerun Frogbutt


Michael Baldwin Bruce

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Lady Chatterly <mbb...@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message news:<c56e47f....@chatterly.databasix.com>...

> In article <602faa6b.04100...@posting.google.com>,
> mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) wrote:
> >
> >Lady Chatterly <mbb...@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message news:<ebc931b....@chatterly.comcast.com>...
> >> In article <602faa6b.04100...@posting.google.com>,
> >> mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >rste...@visi.com (Richard Steiner) wrote in message news:<XmMXBpHp...@visi.com>...
> >> >> Here in comp.os.os2.misc,
> >> >> mbb...@mighty.co.za (Michael Baldwin Bruce) spake unto us, saying:
> >> >>
> >> >> >One on't cross beams gone owt askew on treddle, bruce.
> >> >>
> >> >> Splunge! (fnord)
> >> >
> >> >No, no, no, hold your head like this, and then go 'waaagh'! Try it again, bruce.
> >>
> >> Fancy that!
> >
> >Better. Better. But 'waaaaaghh'! 'Waaaagh'! Hold your hands here ...
>
> Do you know what New South Wales's state slogan is?

Right, cut to me. As Officer Commanding the Regular Army's Advertising Division,
I object, in the strongest possible terms to this obvious reference to our own
slogan 'It's a dog's life...er, a man's life in the modern army' and I warn
this programme that any recurrence of this sloppy long-haired civilian
plagiarism will be dealt with most severely. Right, now on the command 'cut',
the camera will cut to camera two, all right, director... Wait for it!
Camera cut.

Lady Chatterly

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Oct 3, 2004, 6:00:07 AM10/3/04
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Failure has gone to your head.

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that? WTF Is that supposed to be? Is that some sort of mascott?" --
rikijo©

Michael Baldwin Bruce

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Lady Chatterly <mbb...@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message news:<8db8e82....@chatterly.strzelec.net>...

Hm. I see. Well I think I may be able to help you. You see your cat is suffering
from what we Vets haven't found a word for. His condition is typified by total
physical inertia, absence of interest in its ambience - what we Vets call
environment - failure to respond to the conventional external stimuli - a ball
of string, a nice juicy mouse, a bird. To be blunt, your cat is in a rut.
It's the old stockbroker syndrome, the suburban fin de siecle ennui, angst,
weltschmertz, call it what you will.

Shmuel Metz

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In <L4J5d.738$Rf1...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>, on 09/27/2004
at 12:24 AM, heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) said:

>I looked around on the 'net for a answer and it seems HPFS supports
>large (> several GBs) partitions but I am not sure about bootmanager,
>OS/2, and OS/2 application programs.

I don't know about the old releases you're running, but 4.52 will
handle greater than 2GB HPFS. However, the consensus seems to be that
JFS is a better choice, With ecomstation you can even boot from JFS.

Paul Ratcliffe

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:39:43 -0500, Shmuel Metz
<spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:

> In <L4J5d.738$Rf1...@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>, on 09/27/2004
> at 12:24 AM, heit...@ameritech.net (F. Heitkamp) said:
>
>>I looked around on the 'net for a answer and it seems HPFS supports
>>large (> several GBs) partitions but I am not sure about bootmanager,
>>OS/2, and OS/2 application programs.
>
> I don't know about the old releases you're running, but 4.52 will
> handle greater than 2GB HPFS. However, the consensus seems to be that
> JFS is a better choice, With ecomstation you can even boot from JFS.

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