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John Small

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May 28, 2011, 6:30:47 AM5/28/11
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My ISP has "upgraded" its email service. (Apparently it has farmed it
out toe google/gmail). The problem is that it seems that my email
software has to support SSL.

I am a long-time user of Polarbar which, it seems, does not support
SSL. My options seems to be:
1) Find a way to get Polarbar to do SSL. Is there are a way ro get
Polarbar to use SSL?

2) Find different email software to use. What other OS/2 email
software supports SSL? (I have found that Seamonkey's email does. But
I use Polarbar partly because I never liked Seamonkey's email.)

3) Find a different ISP which does not require SSL for email. Is SSL
commonly required mowadays? Am I going to have trouble finding an ISP
which will not require SSL?

4) Use the web interface. Yuck!

5) Other. Are there other options?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Questions:


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John Small

m...@privacy.net

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May 28, 2011, 5:40:55 AM5/28/11
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In <4rkzjBzzMnpe-p...@x.y.z>, on 05/28/2011

One option for you would be to set up stunnel to handle the SSL for you.
Paul Smedley ported this a few years ago and I have found it a very useful
tool myself. Wrapping an email connection is one of the examples included
in the package. You can get it here:

http://os2ports.smedley.info/index.php?page=stunnel

-- Dave
-----------------------------------------------------------
dhdurgee<at>verizon<dot>net
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Trevor Hemsley

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May 28, 2011, 6:48:30 AM5/28/11
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5) Install and configure stunnel to set up an encrypted tunnel between you and
the server.

--
Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
Trevor dot Hemsley at ntlworld dot com

Alex Taylor

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May 28, 2011, 6:59:05 AM5/28/11
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On Sat, 28 May 2011 10:30:47 UTC, "John Small" <zjsm...@os2world.net> wrote:

> My ISP has "upgraded" its email service. (Apparently it has farmed it
> out toe google/gmail). The problem is that it seems that my email
> software has to support SSL.
>
> I am a long-time user of Polarbar which, it seems, does not support
> SSL. My options seems to be:
> 1) Find a way to get Polarbar to do SSL. Is there are a way ro get
> Polarbar to use SSL?

Can't answer this...

> 2) Find different email software to use. What other OS/2 email
> software supports SSL? (I have found that Seamonkey's email does. But
> I use Polarbar partly because I never liked Seamonkey's email.)

SSL comes in various different (auth-type) flavours. The latest PMMail
(pmmail.os2voice.org) supports most of the more common ones, by using
the stunnel program in the background. You do have to configure it properly in
the PMMail settings.


--
Alex Taylor
Fukushima, Japan
http://www.socis.ca/~ataylo00

Please take off hat when replying.

Alex Taylor

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May 29, 2011, 3:25:02 AM5/29/11
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On Sat, 28 May 2011 10:59:05 UTC, "Alex Taylor" <mai...@reply.to.address>
wrote:

> SSL comes in various different (auth-type) flavours.

This statement is rubbish BTW, please ignore it. :p


> The latest PMMail (pmmail.os2voice.org) supports [SSL] by using


> the stunnel program in the background. You do have to configure it
> properly in the PMMail settings.

This is the correct information.


BTW, Dave and Trevor are right in pointing out that you should also be
able to configure stunnel to work with PolarBar. Of course, in that
case you have to do all the fiddly setting up yourself.

PGAGA

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May 29, 2011, 8:27:28 AM5/29/11
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Sunday, May 29, 2011

There are two optiosn for using PBM with SSL. One is to run Stunnel
with the following in the stunnel.conf

client = yes
output = stunnel.log

# For Gmail email connections
[Gmail-pop3]
accept = 995
connect = pop.gmail.com:995
[Gmail-smtp]
accept = 465
connect = smtp.gmail.com:465
# End of config for Gmail

Then one sets PBM inbox with

Mail Server localhost
Port 995

Outgoing is

Mail Server localhost
Port 465

The second option is to use the Daily Build with the latest mail.jar
and select JavaMail pop3.

Phil

John Small

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May 31, 2011, 7:04:43 PM5/31/11
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On Sun, 29 May 2011 12:27:28 UTC, PGAGA <grif...@glinx.com> wrote:

> Sunday, May 29, 2011
>
> There are two optiosn for using PBM with SSL. One is to run Stunnel
> with the following in the stunnel.conf
>
> client = yes
> output = stunnel.log
>
> # For Gmail email connections
> [Gmail-pop3]
> accept = 995
> connect = pop.gmail.com:995
> [Gmail-smtp]
> accept = 465
> connect = smtp.gmail.com:465
> # End of config for Gmail
> Then one sets PBM inbox with
>
> Mail Server localhost
> Port 995
>
> Outgoing is
>
> Mail Server localhost
> Port 465
>

I tried this. But hte log messages were:
2011.05.31 18:49:04 LOG5[235:28524]: stunnel 4.26 on i386-pc-os2-emx
with OpenSS
L 0.9.8h 28 May 2008
2011.05.31 18:49:04 LOG5[235:28524]: Threading: SSL:ENGINE
Sockets:SELECT,IPv4
2011.05.31 18:49:08 LOG5[220:28524]: Gmail-pop3 accepted connection
from 127.0.0
.1:55057
2011.05.31 18:49:08 LOG5[220:28524]: Gmail-pop3 connected remote
server from 4.1
54.234.96:55058
2011.05.31 18:49:09 LOG5[220:28524]: Connection closed: 85 bytes sent
to SSL, 65
bytes sent to socket
2011.05.31 18:49:18 LOG3[235:28524]: Received signal 2; terminating

I don't know what these messages mean. Are the conf lines you posted
the only ones that should exist in my conf file? If not, what other
ones are needed?



> The second option is to use the Daily Build with the latest mail.jar
> and select JavaMail pop3.

I tried this too. These are the messages in my Java console log:
2011-05-31 20:03:46,430 INFO [LogLabel] Receiving JavaMail POP3 -
jsm...@toast.net@pop.gmail.com: connecting...
2011-05-31 20:03:46,440 INFO [LogLabel] Receiving JavaMail POP3 -
jsm...@toast.net@pop.gmail.com: Logging on to message server...
2011-05-31 20:03:46,470 INFO [root] DEBUG: getProvider() returning
javax.mail.Provider[STORE,pop3s,com.sun.mail.pop3.POP3SSLStore,Sun
Microsystems, Inc]
2011-05-31 20:03:46,470 INFO [root] DEBUG POP3: connecting to host
"pop.gmail.com", port 995, isSSL true
2011-05-31 20:03:47,650 INFO [root] S: +OK Gpop ready for requests
from 4.154.234.96 k3pf1643183vby.16
2011-05-31 20:03:47,650 INFO [root] DEBUG POP3: APOP challenge: null
2011-05-31 20:03:47,650 INFO [root] C: USER jsm...@toast.net
2011-05-31 20:03:48,140 INFO [root] S: +OK send PASS
2011-05-31 20:03:48,140 INFO [root] C: PASS 98table9
2011-05-31 20:03:48,530 INFO [root] S: +OK Welcome.
2011-05-31 20:03:48,530 INFO [LogLabel] Receiving JavaMail POP3 -
jsm...@toast.net@pop.gmail.com: Logon Successful.
2011-05-31 20:03:48,530 INFO [root] C: STAT
2011-05-31 20:03:48,800 INFO [root] S: +OK 3 53749
2011-05-31 20:03:48,800 INFO [root] C: NOOP
2011-05-31 20:03:49,060 INFO [root] S: +OK
2011-05-31 20:03:49,070 INFO [root] C: NOOP
2011-05-31 20:03:49,330 INFO [root] S: +OK
2011-05-31 20:03:49,330 INFO [root] C: QUIT
2011-05-31 20:03:49,600 INFO [root] S: +OK Farewell.
2011-05-31 20:03:49,640 INFO [LogLabel] download failed.
2011-05-31 20:03:49,640 ERROR [AppMenu] method: class
innoval.mailer.jstreet.getNewMessages(class innoval.mailer.jstreet)
failed

As you can see, I am apparently able to log in OK but some failure
occurs immediately afterwards.

So I am a little closer to being able to get my email.

Thanks to all who have already tried to help and thanks to anyone who
can help me get past either of these errors!

--

John Small

Paul Ratcliffe

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May 31, 2011, 8:09:37 PM5/31/11
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On Tue, 31 May 2011 18:04:43 -0500, John Small <zjsm...@os2world.net> wrote:

> 2011-05-31 20:03:47,650 INFO [root] C: USER jsm...@toast.net
> 2011-05-31 20:03:48,140 INFO [root] S: +OK send PASS
> 2011-05-31 20:03:48,140 INFO [root] C: PASS 98table9
> 2011-05-31 20:03:48,530 INFO [root] S: +OK Welcome.

I bet you feel a bit of a twat now...

Pete

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May 31, 2011, 9:08:33 PM5/31/11
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On Tue, 31 May 2011 23:04:43 UTC, "John Small" <zjsm...@os2world.net>
wrote:

> On Sun, 29 May 2011 12:27:28 UTC, PGAGA <grif...@glinx.com> wrote:


>
> > Sunday, May 29, 2011
> >
> > There are two optiosn for using PBM with SSL. One is to run Stunnel
> > with the following in the stunnel.conf
> >
> > client = yes
> > output = stunnel.log
> >
> > # For Gmail email connections
> > [Gmail-pop3]
> > accept = 995
> > connect = pop.gmail.com:995
> > [Gmail-smtp]
> > accept = 465
> > connect = smtp.gmail.com:465
> > # End of config for Gmail
> > Then one sets PBM inbox with
> >
> > Mail Server localhost
> > Port 995
> >
> > Outgoing is
> >
> > Mail Server localhost
> > Port 465

--snip--

AISTR, the port numbers for localhost need to be different than those
for the remote server. They also have to be different from each other.
In my STunnel.conf file, these numbers are:

[Gmailpop]
accept = localhost:6210
connect = pop.gmail.com:995

[Gmailsmtp]
accept = localhost:6225
connect = smtp.gmail.com:465

STunnel acts as a server, a middleman, in your computer and has to know
where traffic comes from and where it has to go, so the addresses (port
numbers) all have to be unique. The localhost numbers can be assigned
aribtrarily from any unused port numbers.

HTH,
Pete

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PGAGA

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May 31, 2011, 10:38:40 PM5/31/11
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Tuesday, May 31, 2011

Below is all I have active for Stunnel on all four operating systems
for which I use it. Are you sure the conf file is loading.

Phil

client = yes
output = stunnel.log

[Gmail-pop3]

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