ProNews/2: Copy/move articles
John Small
"wisdom", decided its users didn't need newsgroups anymore.
Over the years I have used the "Lock" feature as a way to keep certain
articles of interest from being purged from the list of articles
within Pronews. Now I would like to move these locked articles from
the groups for the old newsserver to the same groups for the new
newsserver.
Is there a way to do this? The readme.txt file suggests that I could
use drap and drop for this but no matter where I try to drop the files
(the group name in Control Panel or any part of the new group's open
window I get the "can't drop here" symbol.
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John Small
Trevor Hemsley
Messages which exists by default or create your own group (Group -> Create User
Group from the control panel menu).
You can also just set up new groups of the same name as the existing ones on the
new server and keep the old groups exactly how they are - i.e. you can subscribe
to the same named group on more than one server.
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Trevor Hemsley, Brighton, UK
Trevor dot Hemsley at ntlworld dot com
Herr Willms
<zjsm...@os2world.net> auf comp.os.os2.mail-news :
> I am having to change newsservers since my new ISP, in its great
> "wisdom", decided its users didn't need newsgroups anymore.
> the groups for the old newsserver to the same groups for the new
> newsserver.
the menu Group >> Group settings. It opens with the first tab,
"Options", and setting the news server is what first jumps into your
eyes.
I also had to change the newssever, since T-Online did close theirs,
and only discovered this simple way yesterday...
No need to set up new groups for the new newsserver. Just change the
newsserver for the existing group.
Cheers,
L.W.
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John Small
I have already subscribed to groups on the new server. And since I
still have all the groups on the old server I get duplicates when I
use "G" to get all new headers.
I was hoping that I could just move the messages I want to keep into
the list of messages for the same group on the new server. Then I
would unsubscribe to the old groups. Apparently this is not possible.
So I will have to "Copy" the messages. In the past I have not used
"Copy" much because it puts all messages from all groups into the same
container. This makes it hard to find messages pertaining to a
particular group.
Now that I know about "User groups" there seems to be a better option.
However it will be a bit tedious to set up enough of them to keep some
level of organization to the copied messages. It would be nice if
Pronews would have an option to copy messages to a user group of the
same name as the name of the group being copied from into a separate
book (perhaps named "Saved").
Once the messages have been copied, should I continue to keep them
"locked"? IOW, will they be purged from a user group if they are not
"locked"?
And if I am not able to create all these new user groups and copy the
messages before my access to the old news server is stopped, is there
a way to "suspend" the groups for a particular server? By "suspend" I
mean: keep all groups and messages but don't allow any tasks to be
queued for that server. I have tried setting the server to "offline
mode" but a "G" command still queues up requests (even though they are
not proceesed because the server is offline).
Again, thanks for your help and for your continued spport of Pronews!
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John Small
Trevor Hemsley
<zjsm...@os2world.net> wrote:
> Once the messages have been copied, should I continue to keep them
> "locked"? IOW, will they be purged from a user group if they are not
> "locked"?
As far as I can tell, user groups never get purged so the content is there until
you explicitly delete it
> And if I am not able to create all these new user groups and copy the
> messages before my access to the old news server is stopped, is there
> a way to "suspend" the groups for a particular server? By "suspend" I
> mean: keep all groups and messages but don't allow any tasks to be
> queued for that server. I have tried setting the server to "offline
> mode" but a "G" command still queues up requests (even though they are
> not proceesed because the server is offline).
Once you download a group with Pronews, the content of the group is kept
according to the rules you have set up on the purge tab of the group settings
(or inherited from the global settings). You could uncheck the 'delete when no
longer available on the server' option - not sure if you can also leave the
'delete messages after X days' option unchecked but if it wants to be set on
then you can set the interval to 9999 which is about 27 years.
Another solution for your problem is to rejig your setup. You can add 'books'
(and nest them if you like) then drag the old groups to a book called, for
example, 'old-server' and the new groups to a book called 'new-server'. If you
now highlight the 'new-serrver' book then you can hit H instead of G and it will
retrieve new headers only for the groups inside the 'new-server' book.
'new-server' is just an example but it could be 'eternal-september' instead.
Trevor Hemsley
<l.wi...@domain.invalid> wrote:
> It opens with the first tab,
> "Options", and setting the news server is what first jumps into your
> eyes.
You can also drag the server from the Servers list on the control panel and drop
it on the group or a book containing multiple groups.
Herr Willms
<Trevor....@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> auf comp.os.os2.mail-news :
> > It opens with the first tab,
> > "Options", and setting the news server is what first jumps into your
> > eyes.
>
> You can also drag the server from the Servers list on the control panel and drop
> it on the group or a book containing multiple groups.
Thanks for the tip. I had (months ago) explored the (binary?)
configuration files, and found a number associated with each
newsgroup. I thought about simply changing this number (using some
kind of hex editor, or script), but did not dare to do it.
Cheers,
L.W.
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John Small
<Trevor....@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:02:50 UTC in comp.os.os2.mail-news, "Herr Willms"
> <l.wi...@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
> > It opens with the first tab,
> > "Options", and setting the news server is what first jumps into your
> > eyes.
>
> You can also drag the server from the Servers list on the control panel and drop
> it on the group or a book containing multiple groups.
Changing the group to a new server like this was much easier than
setting up a lot of new user groups!
However I did find that doing so triggered a massive download of "new"
headers. Assuming this is a one-time event, this is a small "price" to
pay for such a quick changeover.
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Will Honea
retreival. When you changed servers, that flag was zeroed so you got the
whole load. It's been a while but ISTR that you can fetch based on date to
avoid the dups but that's fuzzy. I know I used some such spec to avoid back
when I was helping with PN2 and doing a lot of server switching.
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Steven Levine
wrote:
Hi,
> However I did find that doing so triggered a massive download of "new"
> headers. Assuming this is a one-time event, this is a small "price" to
> pay for such a quick changeover.
messages. The function name is a bit misleading. What it does is set
the last fetched article number to match the highest article number
known to the server.
The downside of using Catchup this way is you might miss some
articles.
Steven
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Steven Levine
Hi,
> whole load. It's been a while but ISTR that you can fetch based on date to
> avoid the dups but that's fuzzy. I know I used some such spec to avoid back
> when I was helping with PN2 and doing a lot of server switching.
Syntax
ARTICLE message-id
ARTICLE number
ARTICLE
ProNews like most news clients fetches by article number and each
server numbers articles as they arrive, so the numbers are not
globally unique. Message-ids are globally unique across all servers,
so fetching by message-id is better in the sense that the article can
be fetched from any server that has a copy. However, it's a lot more
complex to implement.
Herr Willms
<Trevor....@mytrousers.ntlworld.com> auf comp.os.os2.mail-news :
> > "Options", and setting the news server is what first jumps into your
> > eyes.
>
> You can also drag the server from the Servers list on the control panel and drop
> it on the group or a book containing multiple groups.
to send this control message to the old server, which is no longer
reachable. And I can't find nowhere the queue where this control item
to be posted is stored.
What gives? What can I do?
Trevor Hemsley
<l.wi...@domain.invalid> wrote:
> What gives? What can I do?
so it's probably a waste of time anyway.