Re: Installing OS/2 or eCS w/o 3.5" disks
Srtgray
> An old laptop without 3.5" disk drive, no bootable CD-ROM drive,
> no swappable harddisk. Is there, despite this, a possibility to
> install OS/2 or eCS, e.g. with a certain type of external CD-ROM
> drive?
>
> TIA!
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You could try a network install, if you (a)can get a PCMCIA network card
and (b) have a desktop machine with network, OS/2-eCS and a CD-ROM. You
can't install from most external CD-ROMs, except perhaps a SCSI unit
(needs a SCSI PCMCIA card though)
Stuart
ML
>> An old laptop without 3.5" disk drive, no bootable CD-ROM drive,
>> no swappable harddisk. Is there, despite this, a possibility to
>> install OS/2 or eCS, e.g. with a certain type of external CD-ROM
>> drive?
> You could try a network install, if you (a)can get a PCMCIA
> network card and (b) have a desktop machine with network,
> OS/2-eCS and a CD-ROM.
Thanks, I'll try that! The laptop has a PCMCIA network card indeed,
recognized by the to be deleted Windows XP, and I somehow should be
able to access a desktop machine's CD-ROM drive.
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Srtgray
programme. It can create the required floppy disks automatically. For
plain Warp 4, the instructions at
http://www.tavi.co.uk/os2pages/reminst.html are excellent.
Stuart
Bob Eager
wrote:
> ML wrote:
> > >> An old laptop without 3.5" disk drive, no bootable CD-ROM drive,
> > >> no swappable harddisk. Is there, despite this, a possibility to
> > >> install OS/2 or eCS, e.g. with a certain type of external CD-ROM
> > >> drive?
> >
> > > You could try a network install, if you (a)can get a PCMCIA
> > > network card and (b) have a desktop machine with network,
> > > OS/2-eCS and a CD-ROM.
> >
> > Thanks, I'll try that! The laptop has a PCMCIA network card indeed,
> > recognized by the to be deleted Windows XP, and I somehow should be
> > able to access a desktop machine's CD-ROM drive.
> >
> >
> >
> If you have eCS, check out the Beta forum for the updated Floppy disk
> programme. It can create the required floppy disks automatically.
Don't think he has a floppy drive...
> For
> plain Warp 4, the instructions at
> http://www.tavi.co.uk/os2pages/reminst.html are excellent.
Yes, they are! :-) Note that they are really for the Convenience Packs,
although I suspect they will be fine with Warp 4.
--
Bob Eager
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Lutz
I wonder how you did install any operating system on it?
Any old laptop has a diskette drive but if its missing I would dig out the
harddisk drive and attach it to another computer via an
IDE-40-44- or an IDE-USB-adapter. Than xcopy OS/2 on it.
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Ilya Zakharevich
ML
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> An old laptop without 3.5" disk drive, no bootable CD-ROM drive,
> no swappable harddisk. Is there, despite this, a possibility to
> install OS/2 or eCS, e.g. with a certain type of external CD-ROM
> drive?
You need two things: a partition you can "emergency-boot" to OS2, and
a partition with copies of a directory from CD. To make the first,
a) copy all the boot floppies to root of a FAT hard disk;
a') (better rename os2krnli to os2rknl for smoother operation);
b) Run sysinstx.com from DOS prompt (I hope it runs from there).
Check that the partition boots (maybe you need to change/add some a:
to WHATEVER: in config.sys). The rest should be present here:
Hope this helps,
Ilya
Srtgray
> > I wonder how you did install any operating system on it?
>
> e.g. with 57 MB of RAM), and I think there's an original
> copy of Windows 98 in \WIN98. The network install didn't
> work for me, BTW (that required token ring, for one?).
>
> > Any old laptop has a diskette drive but if its missing I
> > would dig out the harddisk drive and attach it to another
> > computer via an IDE-40-44- or an IDE-USB-adapter.
>
> http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/c5/b6/34_1_b.JPG, with the
> connector in an (unusual, to me) angle of 90 degrees. If
> that wouldn't be the case, I may have used another laptop
> with a "regular" harddisk drive bay.
>
> I may be lucky tonight, and get myself an external disk
> drive. I tried one before, but that had the wrong kind of
> connector, despite belonging to an old ThinkPad too. Not
> easy to find, but I just may be lucky to find one... :-/
>
Nope, shouldn't need TokenRing (I've done it over ethernet). IS this a
Thinkpad? Let us know what model, it may help.
Stuart
ML
> a) copy all the boot floppies to root of a FAT hard disk;
It was formatted with NTFS... :-/
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ML
> Nope, shouldn't need TokenRing (I've done it over ethernet).
> IS this a Thinkpad? Let us know what model, it may help.
Yes, it's a ThinkPad 760EL. And I was very lucky, because I
found the missing parts I needed to comfortably install eCS
or OS/2 Warp 4. The parts were available in the US too, but
they didn't ship to Europe. The installation of eCS failed,
due to an invalid opcode (I didn't try twice, it was already
getting quite late), but Warp 4 seems to work just fine. I'ld
prefer eCS above Warp 4, hence the ng, but I don't need a
fine trick anymore to get rid of the Windows-installs.
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Ilya Zakharevich
ML
>
> > a) copy all the boot floppies to root of a FAT hard disk;
>
> It was formatted with NTFS... :-/
[From it other posts it looks like you overcome major part of the
problem, but let me pretend you did not:]
Then you need a way to boot something like Linux EMERGENCY disk (to
chip off a part of the partition). I know it is possible to boot
linux from under DOS; probably this means you can boot it from a CD
iso image on a disk...
Hope this helps,
Ilya
djk...@gmail.com
But it doesn't work. Is there any way to use USB flash disck as floppy? (install CD should recognize that unit as their installation disquettes)
Or Is there any other way?
Grant Taylor
> I have Warp CD installation disk, in the box there are floppys to
> boot from CD, and there are documentation to create boot floppy
> yourself. But I have a notebook with DVD player, no floppy. I tried
> to use an USB disk as the boot floppy (from another PC I formatted
> as DOS bootable, after that I tried to copy all files from the OS2
> boot floppy.
- Using a USB flash drive as a floppy can be problematic. There are
some size issues, BIOS config issues, flash drive config (mode) issues.
- The fact that it probably only works and is detected properly with
the flash drive inserted during boot (BIOS initialization).
- The fact that you likely need multiple floppies to boot and use the CD.
I would suggest a USB floppy drive.
> But it doesn't work. Is there any way to use USB flash disck as
> floppy? (install CD should recognize that unit as their installation
> disquettes)
I don't remember if OS/2 allows you to install from DOS or not. It may
require booting the floppies.
> Or Is there any other way?
and get it to work, you might be able to overcome things and get it to work.
You might be able to get SYSLinux and / or ISOLinux to boot an
intermediary boot loader that will let you chain load files on a custom
CD / DVD.
Check out what ArcaOS CDs do. I think they boot using some of the
aforementioned SYSLinux / ISOLinux tricks.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
Robert Wolfe
> notebook with DVD player, no floppy. I tried to use an USB disk as the boot
>floppy (from another PC I formatted as DOS bootable, after that I tried to cop
> But it doesn't work. Is there any way to use USB flash disck as floppy?
> (install CD should recognize that unit as their installation disquettes)
> Or Is there any other way?
Dave Yeo
Install in a Vbox environment where you can use virtual floppies then
copy the install to a real hard drive.
There were some scripts floating around to make a bootable CD, might
need an OS/2 install to do it and IIRC, it was tricky to do.
I doubt that even a USB floppy will work as the USB drivers likely don't
load soon enough if your Warp CD even has USB drivers that work (doubtful)
Dave
Dave Yeo
> Check out what ArcaOS CDs do. I think they boot using some of the
> aforementioned SYSLinux / ISOLinux tricks.
Seems to work well. I think the OS4 guys have a similar setup that might
work.
Dave