pinball.sys
kwilas kristopher michael
Stephen Ward wrote:
> I was wondering whether any os2 users know if or where the windows nt
> pinball.sys driver is available from.
> I have scoured the usenet, but have not been able to find this much
> needed windows nt hpfs driver.
Head on over to http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~kwilas/useful.html. The
information there (and links) should be all you need to get HPFS
support up and running under NT 4.
Kris
Stephen Ward
Hi,
I was wondering whether any os2 users know if or where the windows nt
pinball.sys driver is available from.
I have scoured the usenet, but have not been able to find this much
needed windows nt hpfs driver.
Thanks in advance,
Stephen Ward.
Charlie Choc
kwilas kristopher michael <kwi...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Stephen Ward wrote:
>> I was wondering whether any os2 users know if or where the windows nt
>> pinball.sys driver is available from.
>> I have scoured the usenet, but have not been able to find this much
>> needed windows nt hpfs driver.
>
>Head on over to http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~kwilas/useful.html. The
>information there (and links) should be all you need to get HPFS
>support up and running under NT 4.
>
>Kris
>
>kwi...@uiuc.edu
Don't try it under NT5, it no longer works and will hang your machine.
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Chris Behnken
John Thompson wrote:
>
> In <34358d7...@news.mindspring.com>, cc...@mindspring.com
> (Charlie Choc) writes:
>
> >Don't try it under NT5, it no longer works and will hang your
> machine.
>
>
> -John (John.T...@ibm.net)
Microsoft Changed NT5 for the Winblows Driver Model so most of the NT4.0
Drivers will not work.
We are still looking for folks to help write a WDM version of HPFS for
NT. Please visit www.htc.net/~nbehnken for more information.
Nick Behnken
Warp Speed Software
Joseph Gallagher
Pinball.sys and related files to make hpfs work on NT 40 are in a file called
hpfsnt.zip that can be found at http://www.ionet.net/~cigrlvr/nt.html.
This worked perfectly for me.
Joe Gallagher
jga...@magicnet.net
In message <343539...@virgin.net> - Stephen Ward <stephe...@virgin.net>
writes:
:>
:>Hi,
:>I was wondering whether any os2 users know if or where the windows nt
:>pinball.sys driver is available from.
:>I have scoured the usenet, but have not been able to find this much
:>needed windows nt hpfs driver.
:>Any comments would be most appreciated.
John Thompson
Chris Behnken
BTW ----- HPFS_NT4.ZIP I am the author of this program homepage can be
found at www.htc.net/~nbehnken.
Glad it worked for you.
Nick Behnken
David Darknell
On Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:31:34 -0500, kwilas kristopher michael wrote:
>Stephen Ward wrote:
>> I was wondering whether any os2 users know if or where the windows nt
>> pinball.sys driver is available from.
>> I have scoured the usenet, but have not been able to find this much
>> needed windows nt hpfs driver.
>
>Head on over to http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~kwilas/useful.html. The
>information there (and links) should be all you need to get HPFS
>support up and running under NT 4.
>
Watch out if you use pinball.sys with OS/2 !!!!!
I did, and under NT, the HPFS partitions are NOT properly
supported under NT4. By this I mean, you will lose data if you trust it to
any HPFS drive. Frequently, installed programs will not run correctly if you
install them to the HPFS partition.
It does seem to work ok, if you primarily run OS/2, and you boot into OS/2
more often than NT (which tends to fix the filesystem errors that are
constantly generated). But if you use NT more than OS/2, those errors aren't
corrected under NT, and you WILL LOSE MANY HOURS OF WORK.
After nearly losing my shirt over this, I have decided that it
just isn't worth it anymore.
David
>Kris
>
>kwi...@uiuc.edu
Charlie Choc
"David Darknell" <da...@SpamKan.NeT> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:31:34 -0500, kwilas kristopher michael wrote:
>
>>Stephen Ward wrote:
>>> I was wondering whether any os2 users know if or where the windows nt
>>> pinball.sys driver is available from.
>>> I have scoured the usenet, but have not been able to find this much
>>> needed windows nt hpfs driver.
>>
>>Head on over to http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~kwilas/useful.html. The
>>information there (and links) should be all you need to get HPFS
>>support up and running under NT 4.
>>
>
>Watch out if you use pinball.sys with OS/2 !!!!!
>I did, and under NT, the HPFS partitions are NOT properly
>supported under NT4. By this I mean, you will lose data if you trust it to
>any HPFS drive. Frequently, installed programs will not run correctly if you
>install them to the HPFS partition.
This has never happened to me and I used it with NT since the NT4
betas. I expect you have other problems.
>
>It does seem to work ok, if you primarily run OS/2, and you boot into OS/2
>more often than NT (which tends to fix the filesystem errors that are
>constantly generated). But if you use NT more than OS/2, those errors aren't
>corrected under NT, and you WILL LOSE MANY HOURS OF WORK.
If you are having file system errors constantly generated, you have
other problems than the pinball.sys driver. I have never had an HPFS
error that could be attributed to HPFS access under NT. FWIW.
>
>After nearly losing my shirt over this, I have decided that it
>just isn't worth it anymore.
>
>David
>
>
>>Kris
>>
>>kwi...@uiuc.edu
>
>
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Charlie...
Colin L. Hildinger
> In <34358d7...@news.mindspring.com>, cc...@mindspring.com (Charlie Choc) writes:
>
> >Don't try it under NT5, it no longer works and will hang your machine.
>
> Ahhh. Another Microsoft "upgrade" I guess...
Well, NT 5 is in beta...
Colin L. Hildinger
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Charlie Choc
co...@ionet.net (Colin L. Hildinger) wrote:
>On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 02:33:12, nos...@savebandwidth.com (John
>Thompso wrote:
>
>> In <34358d7...@news.mindspring.com>, cc...@mindspring.com (Charlie Choc) writes:
>>
>> >Don't try it under NT5, it no longer works and will hang your machine.
>>
>> Ahhh. Another Microsoft "upgrade" I guess...
>
>Well, NT 5 is in beta...
>
FWIW, it is looking for an entry point in the kernel that is no longer
there, I doubt this is a beta issue.
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Thuns most Windows NT 4 drivers has to be rewritten.
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In <N6PnRIidoNg3-pn2-LCfdhBSmEpQI@localhost>, on 10/05/97
>On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 02:33:12, nos...@savebandwidth.com (John
>Thompso wrote:
>> In <34358d7...@news.mindspring.com>, cc...@mindspring.com (Charlie Choc) writes:
>>
>> >Don't try it under NT5, it no longer works and will hang your machine.
>>
>> Ahhh. Another Microsoft "upgrade" I guess...
>Well, NT 5 is in beta...
Same thing can be said to nearly every Microsoft products... :)
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Charlie Choc
"Martin Alfredsson" <sead...@footer.nospam> wrote:
>On Mon, 06 Oct 1997 09:17:31 GMT, Charlie Choc wrote:
>
>>co...@ionet.net (Colin L. Hildinger) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 4 Oct 1997 02:33:12, nos...@savebandwidth.com (John
>>>Thompso wrote:
>>>
>>>> In <34358d7...@news.mindspring.com>, cc...@mindspring.com (Charlie Choc) writes:
>>>>
>>>> >Don't try it under NT5, it no longer works and will hang your machine.
>>>>
>>>> Ahhh. Another Microsoft "upgrade" I guess...
>>>
>>>Well, NT 5 is in beta...
>>>
>>FWIW, it is looking for an entry point in the kernel that is no longer
>>there, I doubt this is a beta issue.
>>
>Microsoft has changed the driver model completely in Windows NT 5.
>Thuns most Windows NT 4 drivers has to be rewritten.
I know that. My only point in posting was to warn folks that it
doesn't fail gracefully. Since HPFS has not been supported by MS since
3.51 it shouldn't be a suprise that it doesn't work.
>
>Now we know what IBM cares for backward compatibility...
Not sure what IBM has to do with this, NT is an MS product as is the
pinball.sys driver. FWIW.
>
>
>
>Martin Alfredsson
>
>President
>JMA Data Software Technologies
>Development, Consulting, WEB design.
>=========================================================
>Professional member of the IBM Solutions Developers Program
>
>Our homepage: http://home1.swipnet.se/~w-13247
>Our mail adress is...@jmast.se
>Or fax us at: 46-(0)31-195260
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>
>
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Martin Alfredsson
On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 20:31:36 GMT, Charlie Choc wrote:
>"Martin Alfredsson" <sead...@footer.nospam> wrote:
>>
>>Now we know what IBM cares for backward compatibility...
>
>Not sure what IBM has to do with this, NT is an MS product as is the
>pinball.sys driver. FWIW.
>>
Opps my bad english:
Should have been
Now we know why IBM cares so much for backward compatibility...
(They dont leave us out in the cold like Microsoft)
Martin Alfredsson
President
JMA Data Software Technologies
Development, Consulting, WEB design.
=========================================================
Professional member of the IBM Solutions Developers Program
Our homepage: http://www.jmast.se/
Our mail adress is...@jmast.se (space btwn s and j)
Charlie Choc
"Martin Alfredsson" <sead...@footer.nospam> wrote:
>On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 20:31:36 GMT, Charlie Choc wrote:
>
>>"Martin Alfredsson" <sead...@footer.nospam> wrote:
>>>
>>>Now we know what IBM cares for backward compatibility...
>>
>>Not sure what IBM has to do with this, NT is an MS product as is the
>>pinball.sys driver. FWIW.
>>>
>Opps my bad english:
>Should have been
>
>Now we know why IBM cares so much for backward compatibility...
>(They dont leave us out in the cold like Microsoft)
>
That I can agree with!
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