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A.IDZIK

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Oct 12, 1993, 10:35:25 PM10/12/93
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I saw a message on the FIDONET that if there's enough support
for a version of AfterDark for OS/2, we might get it.

The number I got to call is: 1-510-540-5535

So if you like Afterdark for Windows or Mac, then go after
Berkeley Systems to get one for OS/2.

Adrian

Eric Jacobsen

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Oct 12, 1993, 10:51:54 PM10/12/93
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Is there a shareware program similar to <windows write> for OS/2? If so,
is it available on any ftp sites? I'm using OS/2 2.0, so it doesn't have to
be able to use truetype fonts. I just want something I can print multiple
fonts and create a fairly decent looking, simple document.

Eric Jacobsen
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Doug Botimer

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Oct 13, 1993, 9:03:30 AM10/13/93
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"A.IDZIK" <DP...@music.mus.polymtl.ca> writes

>So if you like Afterdark for Windows or Mac, then go after
>Berkeley Systems to get one for OS/2.
>
Why? There are already two commercial screen savers for OS/2, Window
Washer and BocaSoft's product. There are also a few shareware screen
savers. And if you really just have to have Afterdark or one of the
other Windows screen savers, run them under Win-OS/2.

Personally I'll spend my money with a company like BocaSoft that is
already developing for OS/2 rather than trying to persuade others.
That is voting with my dollars.

Just my opinion, not an attack on individual choice.

Doug

Tim Moloney

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Oct 13, 1993, 10:49:01 AM10/13/93
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>Why? There are already two commercial screen savers for OS/2, Window
>Washer and BocaSoft's product. There are also a few shareware screen
>savers. And if you really just have to have Afterdark or one of the
>other Windows screen savers, run them under Win-OS/2.

I've been reading on CompuServe that BocaSoft is working on being
able to use AfterDark modules in its Wipeout screen saver. There
is already a beta that can use DeskPic modules. I currently use
DeskPic, but I have ordered Wipeout since it has sound, is able to
use DeskPic modules, and soon will be able to use AfterDark modules.
And it's native OS/2 of course!

Later,
Tim

Tim Moloney OS/2 Version 2.1
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Ronald J. Vaniwaarden

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Oct 13, 1993, 11:50:49 AM10/13/93
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In article <1993Oct13....@lds.loral.com> mol...@mail.lds.loral.com (Tim Moloney) writes:
>>Why? There are already two commercial screen savers for OS/2, Window
>>Washer and BocaSoft's product. There are also a few shareware screen
>>savers. And if you really just have to have Afterdark or one of the
>>other Windows screen savers, run them under Win-OS/2.

Agreed! However, I look at the # of savers that come with Afterdark and the
offerings of Wipeout are quite small in comparison (but quite well done!)

>I've been reading on CompuServe that BocaSoft is working on being
>able to use AfterDark modules in its Wipeout screen saver. There
>is already a beta that can use DeskPic modules. I currently use
>DeskPic, but I have ordered Wipeout since it has sound, is able to
>use DeskPic modules, and soon will be able to use AfterDark modules.
>And it's native OS/2 of course!

This would of course solve all those problems. I have since abandoned
DeskPic since it refusing to blank when I run any DOS apps or an
application that is a major CPU hog. I have considered BocaSoft's
product and would be interested in the best price! I know they sell it for
$40 but I imagine it is available somewhere else for cheaper (it looks like
a nice Christmas present :-)

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Henry Pham

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Oct 13, 1993, 12:59:22 PM10/13/93
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Can someone tell me where I can ftp any of the GNU version of C++ for OS/2
and any relate items to it. To save some bandwith, please e-mail me if possible.
Thanks Y'all...

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The Voch

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Oct 13, 1993, 5:49:08 PM10/13/93
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In article <29gub2$s...@rcsuna.gmr.com> rbot...@max.ct.gmr.com (Doug Botimer) writes:
>Why? There are already two commercial screen savers for OS/2, Window
>Washer and BocaSoft's product. There are also a few shareware screen
>savers. And if you really just have to have Afterdark or one of the
>other Windows screen savers, run them under Win-OS/2.

Yes...but I'd do ANYTHING (within certain limits) to have Flying Toasters
(tm) on my screen again. It seems a screen saver has become more than a
screen saving utility...it's entertainment too...
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j...@morlock.inel.gov

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Oct 14, 1993, 11:27:49 AM10/14/93
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In article <81...@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>, rvan...@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden) writes:
|> In article <1993Oct13....@lds.loral.com> mol...@mail.lds.loral.com (Tim Moloney) writes:
|> >>Why? There are already two commercial screen savers for OS/2, Window
|> >>Washer and BocaSoft's product. There are also a few shareware screen
|> >>savers. And if you really just have to have Afterdark or one of the
|> >>other Windows screen savers, run them under Win-OS/2.
|>
|> Agreed! However, I look at the # of savers that come with Afterdark and the
|> offerings of Wipeout are quite small in comparison (but quite well done!)
|>

Personally, I'm rather torn on the quality issue of "WipeOut". Certainly, it IS a 32-bit OS/2-
specific screen saver but, to be totally honest, "AfterDark" seems to be a much more
'polished' product. From my own point of view, "WipeOut" looks very much like a public-
domain quality application that is slightly above the average shareware offerings. It doesn't
seem worth the $40.00+ price they're asking for it.

"Afterdark" for Windows is going for $19.95 in alot of discount houses and offers twice the
number of savers as "WipeOut".

Perhaps a "2.0" version of "WipeOut" would alleviate this uncertainty...who knows? But, I for one,
would very much like to see "AfterDark" be released as a 32-bit OS/2 App. Competition only
helps the consumer by creating improved products and lower prices.

Regards,

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Antony Chen

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Oct 14, 1993, 2:05:50 PM10/14/93
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The Voch (en...@po.cwru.edu) wrote:

: Yes...but I'd do ANYTHING (within certain limits) to have Flying Toasters

: (tm) on my screen again. It seems a screen saver has become more than a
: screen saving utility...it's entertainment too...

I thought screen savers were so that you wouldn't burn out your screen.
I guess I'm just a practical kinda person that doesn't care if it's flying
toasters or just a blank screen.
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Larry Truesdale

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Oct 14, 1993, 1:51:47 PM10/14/93
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In article <1993Oct14.1...@pmafire.inel.gov>, j...@morlock.inel.gov () writes:
|> In article <81...@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>, rvan...@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden) writes:
|> |> In article <1993Oct13....@lds.loral.com> mol...@mail.lds.loral.com (Tim Moloney) writes:
|> |> >>Why? There are already two commercial screen savers for OS/2, Window
|> |> >>Washer and BocaSoft's product. There are also a few shareware screen
|> |> >>savers. And if you really just have to have Afterdark or one of the
|> |> >>other Windows screen savers, run them under Win-OS/2.
|> |>
|> |> Agreed! However, I look at the # of savers that come with Afterdark and the
|> |> offerings of Wipeout are quite small in comparison (but quite well done!)
|> |>
|>
|> Personally, I'm rather torn on the quality issue of "WipeOut". Certainly, it IS a 32-bit OS/2-
|> specific screen saver but, to be totally honest, "AfterDark" seems to be a much more
|> 'polished' product. From my own point of view, "WipeOut" looks very much like a public-
|> domain quality application that is slightly above the average shareware offerings. It doesn't
|> seem worth the $40.00+ price they're asking for it.
|>
|> "Afterdark" for Windows is going for $19.95 in alot of discount houses and offers twice the
|> number of savers as "WipeOut".
|>
|> Perhaps a "2.0" version of "WipeOut" would alleviate this uncertainty...who knows? But, I for one,
|> would very much like to see "AfterDark" be released as a 32-bit OS/2 App. Competition only
|> helps the consumer by creating improved products and lower prices.
|>
|> Regards,
|>
|> JR Rich
|> --

I use Wipeout and like it alot. Remember that Wipeout is new and afterdark has
been around for quite a while. The number of different "modes" will increase
with time. Also, although I don't actually use it, I think the sound capability
is kinda neat.

Larry

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The Voch

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Oct 14, 1993, 4:22:16 PM10/14/93
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In article <29k4du$f...@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> tc...@pindar.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Antony Chen) writes:
>I thought screen savers were so that you wouldn't burn out your screen.
>I guess I'm just a practical kinda person that doesn't care if it's flying
>toasters or just a blank screen.

Yes, but they are also a source of entertainment, too. People saw mine back
in my Windoze days and said "I want that". So they bought a copy and now
their screens are safe *AND* entertaining.

Tom Hatton

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Oct 14, 1993, 10:32:37 PM10/14/93
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lar...@bnr.ca (Larry Truesdale) writes:

>j...@morlock.inel.gov () writes:
>>rvan...@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden) writes:
>>> mol...@mail.lds.loral.com (Tim Moloney) writes:
>>> >>Why? There are already two commercial screen savers for OS/2, Window
>>> >>Washer and BocaSoft's product. There are also a few shareware screen
>>> >>savers. And if you really just have to have Afterdark or one of the
>>> >>other Windows screen savers, run them under Win-OS/2.
>>>
>>> Agreed! However, I look at the # of savers that come with Afterdark and the
>>> offerings of Wipeout are quite small in comparison (but quite well done!)
>>>
>>Personally, I'm rather torn on the quality issue of "WipeOut". Certainly,
>>it IS a 32-bit OS/2-specific screen saver but, to be totally honest,
>>"AfterDark" seems to be a much more 'polished' product. From my own point
>>of view, "WipeOut" looks very much like a public-domain quality application
>>that is slightly above the average shareware offerings. It doesn't seem
>>worth the $40.00+ price they're asking for it.
>>
>>"Afterdark" for Windows is going for $19.95 in alot of discount houses and
>>offers twice the >> number of savers as "WipeOut".
>>
>> Perhaps a "2.0" version of "WipeOut" would alleviate this uncertainty...
>>who knows? But, I for one, >> would very much like to see "AfterDark" be
>>released as a 32-bit OS/2 App. Competition only helps the consumer by
>>creating improved products and lower prices.
>>
>I use Wipeout and like it alot. Remember that Wipeout is new and afterdark has
>been around for quite a while. The number of different "modes" will increase
>with time. Also, although I don't actually use it, I think the sound capability
>is kinda neat.

Does After Dark allow using video clips as a screen saver (which
Wipeout does)? It's a nice touch.
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Oct 15, 1993, 4:21:54 PM10/15/93
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In <29k4du$f...@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, tc...@pindar.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Antony Chen) writes:
>I thought screen savers were so that you wouldn't burn out your screen.

That's a myth. Old monochrome screens would burn in, but
modern SVGA color monitors take a LONG time; people have
accidently left monitors on here at work over the weekend
with images on them, w/o damage. (power usage may be more
with an image, though)

The point of screen savers is to impress other users with
your operating system!

JMC

Gordan Todorovac

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Oct 15, 1993, 10:33:53 PM10/15/93
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In article <enk2.160....@po.cwru.edu>, The Voch <en...@po.cwru.edu> wrote:

>So they bought a copy and now their screens are safe *AND* entertaining.

Well, modern monitors are incredibly resistant to burn-in: it would take hours
upon hours of display of a bright static screen for any possibility of a
permanent phosphorus burn-in (actually, it's more like days). So, for a
conventional domestic computing situation (apparently the most common setting
for these screen-savers) the protective function is lost. What remains is
entertainment.
Additionally, they can serve to hide the contents of your screen from a random
passerby, but they'd better be password protected in this case!
Personally, I find the lockup feature adequate for both purposes: it is
password protected (actually, I don't think you can opt to turn the password
protection off!), and it is immensely entertaining to ponder the thoughtlesness
of IBM that is the culprit behind their failure to make the lock-cursor move
smoothly rather than jerkily ;) (this little change would be a cinch to make,
but it would give the whole thing a slicker look).

-Gordan

Unusual disclaimers apply...

Mark Schaffer

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Oct 16, 1993, 3:27:49 PM10/16/93
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Well, apparently in article <29k4du$f...@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, tc...@pindar.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Antony Chen) wrote:
>[...]

>I thought screen savers were so that you wouldn't burn out your screen.
>I guess I'm just a practical kinda person that doesn't care if it's flying
>toasters or just a blank screen.

Animated screen savers do have a practical side to them. Under dos and/or
windows, it's nice to come back to your pc and see the screen-saver going
and know, with that glance, that your pc hasn't hung while you were away.

If the screen were blank, you wouldn't even know the difference between the
system being dead of if the cpu were turned off, etc.

This is, of course, only useful at a glance at a distance, but it is handy
to some of us.
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James Blizard

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Oct 16, 1993, 6:58:14 PM10/16/93
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In article <CF08q...@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu> plo...@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu (Mark Schaffer) writes:
>
>Animated screen savers do have a practical side to them. Under dos and/or
>windows, it's nice to come back to your pc and see the screen-saver going
>and know, with that glance, that your pc hasn't hung while you were away.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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> 1644...@ucis.vill.edu Villanova, PA 19085

I've never been much of a Windows user but I guess this is why. I've never
thought of having a mechanism that would(at a glance) tell me if my machine was
locked up. Different strokes I guess.

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Robert Dewar

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Oct 17, 1993, 11:31:41 AM10/17/93
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Antony Chen says that he thought that screen savers were for the purpose of
making sure your screen doesn't get burned out. Actually there is some
controversy with modern CRT screens as to whether this is a real concern
in practice. It may well be that the *only* purpose of screen savers these
days is entertainment :-)

Jeffrey Gustafson

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Oct 18, 1993, 5:25:25 AM10/18/93
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plo...@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu (Mark Schaffer) writes:

>Well, apparently in article <29k4du$f...@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, tc...@pindar.ccs.itd.umich.edu (Antony Chen) wrote:
>>[...]
>>I thought screen savers were so that you wouldn't burn out your screen.
>>I guess I'm just a practical kinda person that doesn't care if it's flying
>>toasters or just a blank screen.

>Animated screen savers do have a practical side to them. Under dos and/or
>windows, it's nice to come back to your pc and see the screen-saver going
>and know, with that glance, that your pc hasn't hung while you were away.

I work in the technical support department of a computer
company. This feature of screen savers is VERY useful. "Erratic
lockups you say? Boot windows and leave on overnight. Call us back
tomorrow." Works great!

...Jeff

>If the screen were blank, you wouldn't even know the difference between the
>system being dead of if the cpu were turned off, etc.

>This is, of course, only useful at a glance at a distance, but it is handy
>to some of us.
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> 1644...@ucis.vill.edu Villanova, PA 19085

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March Hare

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Nov 5, 1993, 10:36:34 PM11/5/93
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In article <1993Oct30...@vax1.umkc.edu>, gh...@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> : PS another item, in the Settings page, set te minimize behaviour to
> : minimize to desktop, not viewer.
>
> It does not matter. My setting is minimize to viewer. It simply works fine;
> no icon appears on the desktop. I'm using version 1.32. I noticed somebody
> still uses older version. Although it won't get updated, but the latest
> version is generally preferred.

I thought 1.2 was the latest. Where can I find 1.32?

John

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