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Andrew R. Bird lll

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Sep 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/30/99
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Hello,
I hope im not crossposting... (if that means this same message in about 3
other similar ng topics). I apologize if im doing so.

Ive inherited a computer at work. The specs are these:

486 DX2
534 mb HD ( 1/2 gig roughly )
24 megs of ram
14.4 modem
2 meg video
8X cd rom
3.5 floppy

It had originally windows 3.1. Then I had the upgrade to windows 95 from
3.1 floppy disks. It worked, and seemed to be fine, but pathetically slow
after i removed some files. Within those files i deleted was a lot of
references to an older operating system called OS2. I never knew prior to
the 3.1 to 95 upgrade that it was there. The only way to get rid of OS2
totally was to re-format the whole HD. It aslo would make claims to a boot
partition being bad. I didnt want that partition either. So i did the
format /s command. So, basically im left with a HD without a lick of
software on it.

I found my Windows 95 (version 4.00.1111) on CD that came with a system i
had built for me at home. It also had a floppy disk labeled Windows 95 cd
rom disk. I figured that the floppy would get me going. I could simply pop
it in, and it would start the cd rom with a generic driver and load windows
95 from the cd. Well, it didnt. I would start by saying "starting windows
95", then it would revert back to a plain "A:>" cursor.

So, I figured, that i could somehow copy dos 6.2 from an old packard bell
startup disk i had from way back when and maybe jump start it. That failed
too. So, i simply copied the dos 6.2 over to the HD from the packard bell
startup disk to at least have dos on the machine.

When I run the windows 95 cd rom startup disk, and it reverts to the A: i
just described, i at least tried to run the mscdex.exe command. It wanted
certain paramiters to be entered. I dont know the correct parameters (ex.
C:\mscdex\mscdex.exe /m /20), or whatever its supposed to be. Dont I
somehow want to enter that into my autoexec.bat file or similar like the
config.sys?? Am i close? Its been about 15 years since ive used dos at
all.

Does anyone have an idea of how to make a flawless boot disk to at least get
the cd rom to run so that i can load the windows back onto the machine. I
cant seem to be able, with the help of my Ms-dos book, to find a way to
enter the driver for the cd rom. Can someone email me the list of files I
will need on my boot disk, with the driver for the cd rom so I can get
windows up and running.

I would really appreciate it so much......... thanks all
Email me at this address if possible Abi...@compuserve.com or
Pil...@yahoo.com . I will still try to visit this ng to check up. But
if i get the answer soon enough, i can go into work tommorow on overtime to
troubleshoot the problem!!!

Sean L.
8:31 PM 9/30/99

Charles Dye

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Oct 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/1/99
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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:35:51 -0400, "Andrew R. Bird lll"
<Abi...@compuserve.com> wrote:

>I found my Windows 95 (version 4.00.1111) on CD that came with a system i
>had built for me at home. It also had a floppy disk labeled Windows 95 cd
>rom disk. I figured that the floppy would get me going. I could simply pop
>it in, and it would start the cd rom with a generic driver and load windows
>95 from the cd. Well, it didnt. I would start by saying "starting windows
>95", then it would revert back to a plain "A:>" cursor.

The Windows 95 boot floppy shipped with most systems was (a) intended
for troubleshooting, repairing and reinstalling -- not for running
Windows normally; and (b) incomplete as shipped by Microsoft. MS
did not include any CD-ROM drivers on their Win95 OEM boot disks.
The OEM was supposed to add a driver to the disk and make the
appropriate modifications, but not all did. It's very possible that
your floppy has no CD-ROM driver at all.

>Does anyone have an idea of how to make a flawless boot disk to at least get
>the cd rom to run so that i can load the windows back onto the machine. I
>cant seem to be able, with the help of my Ms-dos book, to find a way to
>enter the driver for the cd rom. Can someone email me the list of files I
>will need on my boot disk, with the driver for the cd rom so I can get
>windows up and running.

Save yourself the trouble and visit www.bootdisk.com. One thing that
you will need to know is that the version you have, build 1111, is
also known as "Windows 95B" or "Service Release 2."

Once you've got your machine going again, you can scope out the boot
disk to learn how MSCDEX and the CD-ROM driver fit together. The /D:
switch is the important one.

ras...@highfiber.com


Chia Ah Tee, Joseph

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Oct 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/1/99
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Try typing WIN at A:> or C:> Prompt. Also you need to edit the Msdos.sys
putting
the line multiboot=1.

Joseph C A T

I found my Windows 95 (version 4.00.1111) on CD that came with a system


i
had built for me at home. It also had a floppy disk labeled Windows 95
cd
rom disk. I figured that the floppy would get me going. I could simply
pop
it in, and it would start the cd rom with a generic driver and load
windows
95 from the cd. Well, it didnt. I would start by saying "starting
windows
95", then it would revert back to a plain "A:>" cursor.

So, I figured, that i could somehow copy dos 6.2 from an old packard


bell
startup disk i had from way back when and maybe jump start it. That
failed
too. So, i simply copied the dos 6.2 over to the HD from the packard
bell
startup disk to at least have dos on the machine.

When I run the windows 95 cd rom startup disk, and it reverts to the A:
i
just described, i at least tried to run the mscdex.exe command. It
wanted
certain paramiters to be entered. I dont know the correct parameters
(ex.
C:\mscdex\mscdex.exe /m /20), or whatever its supposed to be. Dont I
somehow want to enter that into my autoexec.bat file or similar like the

config.sys?? Am i close? Its been about 15 years since ive used dos at
all.

Does anyone have an idea of how to make a flawless boot disk to at least
get
the cd rom to run so that i can load the windows back onto the machine.
I
cant seem to be able, with the help of my Ms-dos book, to find a way to
enter the driver for the cd rom. Can someone email me the list of
files I
will need on my boot disk, with the driver for the cd rom so I can get
windows up and running.

I would really appreciate it so much......... thanks all

Chia Ah Tee, Joseph

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Oct 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/1/99
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What you need to do is to reformat the hard disk with a Msdos 6.2 disk 1
and
reinstall msdos 6.2 and win95

Kevin

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Oct 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/2/99
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I have nearly the exact same problem with nearly the exact same hardware and
software. However, I believe I have even less experience than you. I have two
questions:

1. Did the advise you received help remedy your problem of acknowledging the
CD-ROM and installing the WIN 95?
2. How did you reformat your C drive while making it bootable?

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Fellow user in need, Kevin

Graham Bosworth

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Oct 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/10/99
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Andrew R. Bird lll wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Ive inherited a computer at work. The specs are these:
>
> 486 DX2
> 534 mb HD ( 1/2 gig roughly )
> 24 megs of ram
> 14.4 modem
> 2 meg video
> 8X cd rom
> 3.5 floppy
>
> Does anyone have an idea of how to make a flawless boot disk to at least get
> the cd rom to run so that i can load the windows back onto the machine. I
> cant seem to be able, with the help of my Ms-dos book, to find a way to
> enter the driver for the cd rom. Can someone email me the list of files I
> will need on my boot disk, with the driver for the cd rom so I can get
> windows up and running.
>
> Sean L.
> 8:31 PM 9/30/99

I think that there are three steps:
1) format the disc with DOS so that you can boot directly from the hard
drive
2) In C:\config.sys, add the relevant "DEVICEHIGH=" for your CD-ROM (I
hope it is IDE, if not, you will need the driver relevant to that
drive); there will be a "/D:MyCDROM.000" or somesuch,
3) In C:\Autoexec.bat, add the command "LH C:\SomePath\MSCDEX.EXE
/D:MyCDROM.000", or whatever you typed as the unique identifier.

You should then have a DOS computer with a working CD-ROM. If not, get
back to me, and I will check the facts (this is done from memory, I am
not using DOS).

After that, installing Win95 should be a doddle.

Bear in mind that, if the CD-ROM driver is not one of those created on a
Win95 boot floppy, you should copy the true driver to the boot floppy,
and add the relevant parameters in A:\config.sys (using other entries as
a pattern).
--
Graham
gra...@bozikins.connectfree.co.uk,bozi...@bozikins.free-online.co.uk
Sent from Linux: the penguin has landed.

paul

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Nov 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/8/99
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If you know someone with W98, you can use the Win 98 Boot Disk and it
makes almost all IDE CDROMs work. Not SCSI though, you need drivers
for them. This has worked for me.

Plan B- Remove hard drive, set up as slave on another computer, copy
Win95 directory from CDROM, put disk back in computer it's for, boot
up (from HD or disk), run Setup from HD.

paul x is the filter

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