On Thu, 15 May 2014 10:06:09 -0400, 98 Guy com> <98@guy.> wrote:
> I'm reposting the following to a few newsgroups where I know some people
> still run win-98 as part of dual-boot setup, or have recently moved away
> from win-98, or for general knowledge.
> For at least the past 4 years, some windows-98 users have been able to
> use up to 4 gb of ram by using these patches.
Thanks for the info. I might download it to archive it, but I probably
won't go messing with my SE system. I was actually considering removing
KernelEx because I'm using Linux for my daily use now. This topic of
"Linux vs. Win98/SE" is continued at the bottom, if interested.
> Memory constraints has long been seen as one of the major differences
> between win-9x/me and the NT line of OS's. But clearly, as this patch
> indicates, it has been an artificially-imposed constraint by Macro$haft.
> It appears that some combination of a Windows-98 hot-fix and some
> hacking at least 4 years ago, possibly by some Germans, has resulted in
> a very simple set of 2 files that can allow Windows 98 to use up to 4 gb
> of ram.
> As time goes on we'll learn more about how this patch originated, but it
> seems to have been circulating in German-language windows forums up
> until now.
> Thanks to Dencorso and his obtuse and irrational censorship as he lords
> over the Windows-98 Forums at MSFN.org, he indicated that such a German
> patch existed, and he labeled it as "warez". I then began a discussion
> on "FoolsDesign.org" and the location of the patch files was posted
> thanks to a user there. That thread can be found here:
> Once Dencorso found out about that thread, he removed his own MSFN post
> where he described his censorship of the topic. He's so anal he even
> censored himself!
Um, I'm not so sure about all that stuff. I really haven't been following
what they've been doing on MSFN since I installed Linux.
They let Rudolph Loew post about his commercial patches on MSFN, including
his 4GB patch. Maybe Dencorso suspected it was R. Loew's patch or based
on it and therefore mistakenly labeled it "warez"?
R. Loew's patches
> Why on earth those moderators at MSFN think that Microsoft is in any way
> concerned about Windows 9x today defies explanation. They are their own
> worst enemies when it comes to helping advance and grow the Windows
> 9x/me enthusiast community. Their censorship efforts do nothing but
> instill a culture of fear and intimidation and diminish the community at
It seems there will never be another KernelEx version, or even an update
with the final fixes. The main developers aren't developing Kex anymore.
Everyone else on MSFN is apparently using the Kstub patcher to keep it
Personally, I think one of the problems with KernelEx is the 16-bit
MS C compiler used for the project. No one has it. It would've been
nice if only the portions that required that compiler be written in
it, and the rest be written with some other C compiler that works on
DOS or Windows 98/SE, e.g., DJGPP, MinGW, Cygwin, Pelles C, OpenWatcom,
The other major problem is that they should be targeting WinXP
turning Windows 98/SE into Windows XP. They should be fixing Kex to use
whatever files they can get from the three XP service packs. That's where
98/SE is going to get all it's future software from. After XP totally
say another ten years, Windows 98/SE, even with Kex updated to be a reduced
version of XP, will simply be dead.
> Hopefully more enthusiasts and win-98 users will discover the
> free and uncensored windows 98 usenet groups and also the software forum
> at foolsdesign.org
They also have that "hidden" project for Windows 98/SE which they almost
never mention or discuss in the main thread, like they're trying to keep
it a secret, which is *only* available to those who join MSFN and develop.
It's not available to anonymous users of MSFN. It's not on MDGX. Googel
and Yahoo indicate it's files aren't available anywhere else on the
It's called: Kstub.
> Are you reading this Dencorso?
Yeah, I've never seen "Dencorso" post here, at least not by that moniker.
Maybe, he does read here though. It seems that younger guys are not as
found of Usenet as they are of forums.
> Here is a link to the new VMM32.vxd and VMM.vxd files that allow Windows
> 98 to use all available ram on any motherboard you have, up to 4 gb:
> Scroll down to the last item, which is:
> 4 GB Hauptspeicher für WIN 98SE ( mit vmm98sed.zip )hot!
> But don't click on it.
What happens if you click that?
This is the continuation of the topic of "Linux vs. Win98/SE" above:
I've "converted" to VLocity, 64-bit Vector Linux, for daily use.
I still develop code in DOS using DJGPP (GCC for DOS). So,
about the only thing I still use Windows 98/SE for anymore is as
a DOS console. DJGPP compiles much faster in the console window
than in real-mode DOS. This is probably due to the 32-bit
filesystem code and caching. Linux also has dosemu and DOSBox
available. I've only trivially used them with DJGPP.
I was fighting "tooth and nail" to stay on 98/SE, and I "ripped
out some hair" getting Linux working correctly, adjusting config
files, enabling bind (IP), disabling unneeded services and open
ports, tweaking internet buffers, and properly updating software.
But, all my hardware seems to work correctly now, unlike with
Windows 98/SE where everything was falling apart, and which wasn't
the case with numerous prior versions of Linux where at least one
piece of hardware wouldn't work. The only thing I haven't tested
yet in Linux is burning CD-ROMs. Linux will allow you're additional
cpu cores to work, your SATA drives to work, ultra-high resolution
video card modes (unlike VBEMP), etc.
After I installed Linux, all my Windows 98/SE problems went away.
I'm actually using the internet, much more now, because I'm not
fixing SE. No reinstalls of software every six months because
something was lost or changed "magically". No randomly lost
settings. No continuous searching for updates and patches. No
need to keep installing updates, except Adobe Flash and Java.
No autodetect hardware problems. I did have a bunch of new
problems to deal with for a while with Linux, but they're mostly
fixed now, AFAIK ... which is probably good enough until I know
My system no longer has any IDE drives. So, only the boot drive
is emulated by BIOS. Windows 98/SE won't recognize SATA. A
SATA-to-IDE adapter works for reading from CD-ROMs, but not for
burning CDs or updating firmware. I no longer can get video drivers
for SE either. I switched to using VBEMP, which is not bad except
for glitchy vertical scrolling and no really high resolution modes.
The motherboard BIOS on this machine won't let me disable newer
hardware features either, e.g., can't disable ACPI, to be compatible
with Win98/SE. I did find drivers for my motherboard's ethernet card.
They'll install and work, but only until I reboot. Then, Windows SE
fails with a protection error. So, without device drivers and BIOS
support, it's all falling apart now ...
Personally, I'd rather be on Windows. It has better software.
It has hardware drivers for it. It has high-end games for it.
I don't need to find the "Linux equivalent" of major software,
and have problems installing Linux-ware, wrong LIBC, need updated
version of TCL/TK, Perl, Python, blah etc. But, I just can't
justify Windows. I generally build my own computers and can't
justify the standalone price of Windows when Linux is available.
I also don't like the fact that just after you've bought Windows,
once the price came down, MS declares that it's dead and wants
you to buy a "new" version of Windows. To them, it was ten years
in development and seven years on the market when you bought it,
but to you, you just got it. Now, it's over.