Stacker for floppy disks, useless !!

[Sam de de]

Last night, I tried to use stacker 3.0 to stack a 360k floppy disk.
After it has been stacked, I use chkdsk and see that there are 600k.
But when I tried to copy a file in (60k), I found that the space used
is 100k, that is 40k overhead.

Then I tried to copy a game which is totally less than 360k, and it
says insufficient space. Does anyone know why a non-stacked disk can
hold more than a stacked-disk.

Thanks

Samuel

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[Pete Johnson]

You did mount the disk, right? i.e., STACKER A:

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[Kan Mongwa]

In article <1993May26....@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> joh...@speshr.enet.dec.com (Pete Johnson) writes:
>You did mount the disk, right? i.e., STACKER A:
>

I've had a similar problem. I staked my 1.4 meg floppies using the stacker
menu, selecting the 'stacker Anywhere' (or something like that).
Chkdsk showed me 2.8 meg available, but I was able to copy only about
1.4meg of software on it, and then got the 'disk full' message.

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[Artist]

In article <C7n4J...@acsu.buffalo.edu> mon...@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kan Mongwa) writes:
>In article <1993May26....@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> joh...@speshr.enet.dec.com (Pete Johnson) writes:
>>You did mount the disk, right? i.e., STACKER A:
>>
>
>I've had a similar problem. I staked my 1.4 meg floppies using the stacker
>menu, selecting the 'stacker Anywhere' (or something like that).
>Chkdsk showed me 2.8 meg available, but I was able to copy only about
>1.4meg of software on it, and then got the 'disk full' message.
>

i don't think the problem is with stacker. normally, people copy zipped
files, or games with large .exe files onto disks. since stacker doesn't
compress that sort of file very well, it turns out not to be too much of a
help. granted, i could be very wrong, and you may not have done this
at all...(hell, you may have put hordes of txt files on the disk.)..but
i would bet that it's not the disk of stacker, it the type of files
that you're putting on the disk. well, just a guess...

eric the artist
sn...@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

[Adam Lasnik]

I've had no problems with the StacAnywhere... I successfully fit about 3.1
megs of text files on one 1.44meg floppy.

--ADAM "KEYS" LASNIK from Northwestern University

[Fridrik Skulason]

ala...@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Adam Lasnik) writes:

>I've had no problems with the StacAnywhere... I successfully fit about 3.1
>megs of text files on one 1.44meg floppy.

Nothing surprising about that - that's just typical compression ratio for
normal text-only files. An earlier poster complained about not being able
to fit more than 1.44M - which is perfectly natural if the files were already
compressed - .ZIP, .ARJ, .GIF or PKLITEd executables, for example...there
is no way those can be compressed much further.

-frisk
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Author of F-PROT E-mail: fr...@complex.is fax: +354-1-28801

[David Frossard]

Remember, Stacker isn't guaranteeing that there's 2.8 mb on the floppy ... only that if your files compress at a 2:1 ratio, that's what you'll get. The 2:1
figure is only the Stacker default. Normally, when stacking on a 720k floppy,
I get a bit over one meg of info on a disk, but I have a fair number of .exe
and other files that compress only moderately.

BTW, I've never had a single solitary problem with Stacker under many different
and radical system setups system. Yeah, I know, DoubleSpace is "free." Guess
you get what you pay for.

David

[Johannes Beekhuizen]

Hello Kan,

On Wednesday May 26 1993, Kan Mongwa wrote to All:

>> You did mount the disk, right? i.e., STACKER A:

KM> I've had a similar problem. I staked my 1.4 meg floppies using the
KM> stacker menu, selecting the 'stacker Anywhere' (or something like
KM> that). Chkdsk showed me 2.8 meg available, but I was able to copy only
KM> about 1.4meg of software on it, and then got the 'disk full' message.

I suspect that you were putting compressed files onto that floppy. You can't
expect Stacker to compress compressed files even more. That amount of free
space you see is based on the average compression ration for uncompressed
files.

Regards,

Hans.

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[Richard E. Currier]

In article <2C03CB5...@news.service.uci.edu> dfro...@orion.oac.uci.edu (David Frossard) writes:
>
>BTW, I've never had a single solitary problem with Stacker under many different
>and radical system setups system. Yeah, I know, DoubleSpace is "free." Guess
>you get what you pay for.
>

Same here: Stacker 3.0 has survived many crashes on my system and never failed
me. I think I'll buy some stac stock. Its cheap right now. Shure to go up...

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