MS-Mail with Novell to Internet
Doran L Barton / F G Moo
company but would also like to use Internet to send mail outside of the
company.
Now, I'm very aware of what is required for an Internet connection and I'm
working through that right now. What we need to know is what we need to do
to set up a Microsoft Mail Server and what is needed to interface it with
Internet mail.
-Fozz
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Julie Dickinson
a driver (set of DLLs) which causes Windows MSMail to operate as a native
MHS application. You could then use SMTP for NetWare Global MHS to get out
to the Net.
The Novell MHS driver for MSMail is available from ftp.novell.com,
/pub/netwire/novlib/08/msmail.exe. You can contact Novell Product
Information at 800-NETWARE (801-429-5588) for more information on NetWare
Global MHS.
julie (julie dickinson, jdic...@novell.com)
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Mark Rotman
>
> We are looking to use MS-Mail with Novell to do electronic mail within the
> company but would also like to use Internet to send mail outside of the
> company.
>
> Now, I'm very aware of what is required for an Internet connection and I'm
> working through that right now. What we need to know is what we need to do
> to set up a Microsoft Mail Server and what is needed to interface it with
> Internet mail.
>
> -Fozz
Doran,
Microsoft sells a SMTP gateway. Use this to connect your internal MS Mail
to your internet provider. Then, your users address internet or internet
users in their internet form (user@domain). If you have a UNIX host
connected to the internet already, you could use the host to retrieve
your corporations messages and then have the SMTP gateway exchange with
your UNIX host.
Hope this helps,
Mark Rotman
Messageware Incorporated.
Terry Fields
>In article <3df4vv$4...@nic.hookup.net> Mark Rotman <MA...@HOOKUP.NET> writes:
[...deleted material...]
>A related question:
>
>I've checked out the DICS shareware MSMail-to-SMTP gateway, and it requires
>that all Internet e-mail be sent to one box ("gateway" or something like
>that) with the Internet address in the subject line! For example:
>
>To: gateway
>CC: (I'd put local MSMail users here)
>Subject: test message <te...@somesite.org, ano...@site.com>
>
>The DICS gateway then reads the "gateway" (or whatever) mailbox and sends the
>mail on its way.
>
>This is, of course, a bit of a kludge, but of course DICS costs much, much
>less than the Microsoft SMTP gateway.
>
>So, my question is this: is the Microsoft solution easier to use? can you
>place your e-mail addresses in the "To:" line like any other mail program on
>the planet?
>
>>Hope this helps,
>>Mark Rotman
>>Messageware Incorporated.
Mark,
Direct addressing within MS Mail is possible, but not intuitive. For example, to send a
message to you in MS Mail, I would type on the To: line:
On the other hand, once you've added an address to your personal address book, it's
simply point and shoot.
Hope this helps...
________________________________________
Terry Fields - Network Administrator
tfi...@board.tec.wi.us
Wisconsin Technical College System Board
voice(608) 266-9858 fax(608) 266-1690
Kevin Reichard
>From: jdic...@novell.com (Julie Dickinson)
>Subject: Re: MS-Mail with Novell to Internet
>Date: Fri, 23 Dec 1994 21:51:47 GMT
>One possibility is to use NetWare Global MHS as your MTA. Novell has
>a driver (set of DLLs) which causes Windows MSMail to operate as a native
>MHS application. You could then use SMTP for NetWare Global MHS to get out
>to the Net.
>The Novell MHS driver for MSMail is available from ftp.novell.com,
>/pub/netwire/novlib/08/msmail.exe. You can contact Novell Product
>Information at 800-NETWARE (801-429-5588) for more information on NetWare
>Global MHS.
Consider that there's a direct SMTP gateway available from Microsoft, isn't
this solution a little more complicated than need be, offering a too-complex
solution with the only tangible result more sales for Novell? I appreciate
advice from the experts in this newsgroup, but this seems to be salesmanship
without any workable advice.
--Kevoin
Kevin Reichard reic...@MR.net
1677 Laurel Av. Cserve: 73670,3422
St. Paul, MN 55104
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Dylan Rhodes
>Doran,
A related question:
I've checked out the DICS shareware MSMail-to-SMTP gateway, and it requires
that all Internet e-mail be sent to one box ("gateway" or something like
that) with the Internet address in the subject line! For example:
To: gateway
CC: (I'd put local MSMail users here)
Subject: test message <te...@somesite.org, ano...@site.com>
The DICS gateway then reads the "gateway" (or whatever) mailbox and sends the
mail on its way.
This is, of course, a bit of a kludge, but of course DICS costs much, much
less than the Microsoft SMTP gateway.
So, my question is this: is the Microsoft solution easier to use? can you
place your e-mail addresses in the "To:" line like any other mail program on
the planet?
>Hope this helps,
>Mark Rotman
>Messageware Incorporated.
= Dylan Rhodes: Product Manager, Hercules Computer Technology
= drh...@hercules.com http://www.dnai.com/~hercules/
Mark Rotman
Terry is correct. Its extremely simple, and worth the money in comparison to the
subject line "kludge". You should also consider the disadvantages of carrying
addresses in the subject line in case you pass messages through to other
system, that would not be compatable with this.
>
> ________________________________________
> Terry Fields - Network Administrator
> tfi...@board.tec.wi.us
>
> Wisconsin Technical College System Board
> voice(608) 266-9858 fax(608) 266-1690
P.S. Terry, thanks for the reply (although it should have gone to Dylan.)
Dan O'Brien
>From: fo...@xmission.com (Doran L Barton / F G Moo)
>Subject: MS-Mail with Novell to Internet
>Date: 23 Dec 1994 13:28:43 -0700
>We are looking to use MS-Mail with Novell to do electronic mail within the
>company but would also like to use Internet to send mail outside of the
>company.
We've had good success with the SMTPGATE program located on the MS
ftp server (ftp.microsoft.com). It requires an NTAS server to run
(we've been using 3.5) and a registered post office (not the mail included
with WFW- requires a $300 site update package). It's easy to set up and
provides satisfactory SMTP gateway functionality. While there are one
or two items on the wishlist, it does a pretty good job of getting the
mail delivered.
Dan O'Brien
connect.com.au Pty. Ltd.
Melbourne, Australia
Jason Kaczor
> I've checked out the DICS shareware MSMail-to-SMTP gateway, and it requires
> that all Internet e-mail be sent to one box ("gateway" or something like
> that) with the Internet address in the subject line! For example:
Pardon me, but WHERE can I get my hands on this product....This looks
like it could be very interesting...(The DICS shareware).
ttyl
Jason
A...@mindlink.bc.ca
Dylan Rhodes
>From: Jason Kaczor <A...@mindlink.bc.ca>
>Subject: Re: MS-Mail with Novell to Internet
>Date: 29 Dec 1994 19:13:46 GMT
>drh...@hercules.com (Dylan Rhodes) wrote:
I found it on ftp.demon.co.uk. I'm not sure of the directory, but it wasn't
too difficult for me to find it myself.
>ttyl
>Jason
>A...@mindlink.bc.ca
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