Running Win3.x in DESQview/X's X-window: cannot load DOS programs

[Derek Cornish]

Thanks to everyone who helped me recently, I now have DV/X up and
running properly AND Win.3.11 running perfectly in both DV and DV/X.

I have one final question, and I am hoping that anybody who is running
WIN3.11 (standard mode, of course) under DV/X will be able to help.

DV/X offers two ways to run WIN3.x: in a normal window (the windows 3
direct option); or - just above that on the menu - in an X-window.
Running it in a normal winodw I am able to access all my DOS programs
- but only, of course, full-screen (to run them in a DOS window I
would need to be able to run Windows in enhanced mode - an
impossibility under DV or DV/X).

But when I run WIN3.11 in the X-window I cannot run any DOS options at
all - although it runs windows applications, including some interenet
browsers, such as Opera, perfectly. Instead, when I try to load a DOS
program, I get the message:

"Standard-mode switcher is not running. Cannot start application."

Is this a limitation (a "feature" <g>) of the X-Windows implementation
of WIN3.11, or do I have to make some sort of adjustment to the pif?

Derek

[Unknown User]

On 27 Jul 2001 05:16:33 -0700, 10034...@compuserve.com (Derek
Cornish) wrote:

What's _IN_ the DVP??

I suspect you're running DOSX but you must run WIN.COM /S because the
switcher is loaded by WIN.COM but not by DOSX

buck

[ZZYZX]

On 07/27/2001 in comp.os.msdos.desqview Derek Cornish wrote to All:

DC> Thanks to everyone who helped me recently, I now have DV/X up and
DC> running properly AND Win.3.11 running perfectly in both DV and
DC> DV/X.

When I try to start Windows for Work Group v3.11 in DV, Windows states it
can't run in real and standard mode. I wonder if I need to install win
v3.1 to run under DV.

[Stephan Grossklass]

ZZYZX schrieb:

>
> When I try to start Windows for Work Group v3.11 in DV, Windows states it
> can't run in real and standard mode. I wonder if I need to install win
> v3.1 to run under DV.

win/d:t

Stephan
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[Derek Cornish]

Buck:

Thanks for getting back to me.

> What's _IN_ the DVP??

I've not changed the winx.dvp much except to increase the max.
expanded memory size to 16320. Here are the main details:

Standard Option screen:
Program name: MS Windows 3 (X Window)
Memory size: 350
DOS command: c:\dvx\winx.exe
Directory: c:\windows

Options:
Writes direct to the screen; displays graphics info; virtualize text;
display in a dos window; use scalable fonts [NONE checked]

uses own colors, serial ports 1&2; math processor; allows close window
command [ALL checked]
Close on exit: Auto.

Advanced Options screen:
System memory: 0
Max program memory size: 800
Max. expanded memory size: 16320
Text pages: 1
Graphics pages: 0

Script name: winx.dxs [I can't find this]
Windows position: usual one
Wait for ewindow to open [checked]
Protection level: 0
Keyboard conflict: 0
X keyboard behavior: 0

> I suspect you're running DOSX

Does winx.exe load dosx, then, and not win.com /s?

> but you must run WIN.COM /S because the
> switcher is loaded by WIN.COM but not by DOSX

I can see your reasoning, but I'm not sure how I could achieve this,
as there seems to be no place to put a win.com /s command without
having to eject the winx.exe one.

Or am I hopelessly confused about this (be kind <g>). Everything is
probably explained in Chapter 3 of the manual, but I don't have it...

Derek

[Unknown User]

On Friday, 27 Jul 2001 09:31:27 -800, "ZZYZX" <ZZ...@dontspamme.com>
wrote:

No. You need to start it as WIN /D:T (If memory serves).
I seem to remember that there is also a DOSX or similar that starts
WfWg in standard mode.

WIN /?
will show you the correct switch if it isn't /D:T

buck