Desqview/X v2.0
Philip Chee
getting v1.2 but based on my requirements QOS suggested to me to
wait for v2.0 out "real soon now"
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Dylan Cuthbert
> getting v1.2 but based on my requirements QOS suggested to me to
> wait for v2.0 out "real soon now"
QOS *actually* said this? Did they give any ideas of what would be
included in the next version? What were your requirements?
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Bill Burge
>> Does anybody know when v2.0 of DVX will be out? I was thinking of
>> getting v1.2 but based on my requirements QOS suggested to me to
>> wait for v2.0 out "real soon now"
>
>QOS *actually* said this? Did they give any ideas of what would be
>included in the next version? What were your requirements?
>
>
Bummer. There's been no public mention of DVX v2.0 (there has been some
talk about the DVX "next release" that was shown at COMDEX, but NO talk
about versions numbers). That means that some poor sole, went and told
person PRIVATELY to sit tight. We do this sometimes and can get in very
big trouble for discussing unreleased software. It's a big NO-NO. Now
the screws will be tightened, and anyone that actively posts to the net
will be under scrutiny for leaking company secrets and those who think
that dealing with the .desqview newsgroup is a waste of company time,
will have one more reason to shut it down and not allow company time for
the purpose.
When a formal release of the information on release 2.0 comes out, then
we can talk about it openly. Until then, all that has happened is that
we all have learned that it will be version 2.0 and made sure that noone
will learn anything else until the press release comes out.
Bummer.
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Sylvan Butler
>In article <CLs6z...@cix.compulink.co.uk> d...@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Dylan Cuthbert") writes:
>>> Does anybody know when v2.0 of DVX will be out? I was thinking of
>>> getting v1.2 but based on my requirements QOS suggested to me to
>>> wait for v2.0 out "real soon now"
>>
>>QOS *actually* said this? Did they give any ideas of what would be
>Bummer. There's been no public mention of DVX v2.0 (there has been some
...
>When a formal release of the information on release 2.0 comes out, then
Just received in the mail today a "Quarterdeck Product Update" from Ron Brown
and Brenda Cheatham of the Gov't and Edu. Sales dept. It looks like
a typical mass mailing. With my typos and reformatting it says:
---- cut here ----
DESQview/X
We are expecting an upgrade to version 2.0 of this extremely powerful
multitasking, X client server / display server. Available in March, this
upgrade will increase the X server speed, increase the speed of MS Windows,
provide support for a much wider range of Video Adapters, and provide support
for Berkeley Printer Protocol. In addition, the network manager for TCP/ip
and the TCP/ip kernel will now be included.
---- cut here ----
Among other information...
sdb
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Philip Chee
>
>> Does anybody know when v2.0 of DVX will be out? I was thinking of
>> getting v1.2 but based on my requirements QOS suggested to me to
>> wait for v2.0 out "real soon now"
>
>QOS *actually* said this?
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In conclusion, if you're interested in DESQview/X, I suggest you wait till
the new version comes out in a month or two (version 2.0). We will likely
have an introductory price. This will allow you to purchase the software,
try it, and if you don't like, return it for your money back (less Shipping
and Handling).
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They didn't say that it was embargoed information (just checked! whew!).
>Did they give any ideas of what would be included in the next version?
No :-( Perhaps if QOS is monitoring this newsgroup one of them would
like to post something up?
>What were your requirements?
Among others:
1) Runs on DRDOS 6 (and Novell DOS 7 when I get my hands on it)
2) Complained that after loading PCNFS I didn't have much UMBs left
Asked if DVX could be loaded into protected memory using NVDOS 7's
DPMS function. (Not without a complete rewrite - he sez. On the
other hand he didn't say DVX 2.0 wasn't a complete rewrite - so
here's hoping)
3) Said that most reviews commented on the (lack of) speed compared
with other X/Window systems.
4) Asked for X11R5 support. Got non-commital response.
5) There is no 5.
Dylan Cuthbert
Sorry to drag it on further but surely it increases interest in the
program for small snippets of information to be released?
There must be quite a few people who are in half a mind to go completely
over to OS/2 or Windows 4/NT which means no coming back due to the fact
the entire system changes, BUT if they were to hear just rumours about
DV/X 2.0 or similar they would sit tight for just a few more months.
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Bill Burge
>
>Sorry to drag it on further but surely it increases interest in the
>program for small snippets of information to be released?
>
>There must be quite a few people who are in half a mind to go completely
>over to OS/2 or Windows 4/NT which means no coming back due to the fact
>the entire system changes, BUT if they were to hear just rumours about
>DV/X 2.0 or similar they would sit tight for just a few more months.
>
We've argued this to the powers above with very little success. We've
pointed out that Microsoft products get REVIEWED before they are even
in widespread beta. We've argued the value of informing our customer
for just the reasons you site and a few self-centered, foolish ones.
How do you think we feel about on-going questions about new product and
have to keep going "Duhhhhhh, nope. Do'nt know nuttin'" until the product
was released. It's the kind of a stupid feeling. We WANT to tell you.
If you recieved the info from in...@qdeck.com, then this was an official
source, but they are not supposed to be talking about it either. Someone
either did something stupid, or went out on a limb.
In a round about way, I have been talking about every portion that has been
shown publically or mentioned in public release from the company. I have
been pushing for a press release (internally) for some time. There are
some things that people have been asking for that will be in there, but
they haven't been shown at a trade show or mentioned in minutes at the
shareholder's meeting or in ANY public correspondence. If we showed it
at a trade show in Equador, in a booth with only one computer, where
nobody attended; then I would consider it available for public mention
in the new group. Otherwise, I'm risking my job.
If you think it feels stupid to have to "Duhhhh, I don't know"; imagine
what it would feel like to loose my job and have to look at my family
and say "Food? I dunno..." because I tried to help someone. Some of us
will continue to try to help peope, because we believe that THAT is the
business we are in. This in no way is an admittance of guilt with reference
to the Contract of Confidentiality that I signed on my employment ;)
Sorry about the bandwidth. I hope to have a press release in my hand
this week or next. Oooops? I wonder if I can talk about WHEN I can
talk, instead of what I can talk about...
Michael Wexler
Who does it hurt to tell us about new stuff coming out?
1) Current sales: Well, I may wait, but I may just get the current one
to start the learning curve. If qdeck said 3-month window (purch in the 3
mos before releasee get free up[grade) then there would be no sales problem..
2) Compettion: WEll, though there are other xwindows produicts, and
other multitaskskers, I thinkk the directions for most are pretty obvious.
Faster, more options, etc. So, announcing new options is not really that
much of a surprise to the market. However, Dv's procducts are uniques ihn
that they are dos multitaksers/memory mangers as well as x windows rmote
terms. This means that they a) have compet on two fronts or more likely
b) have a unique position. So, this info would not be giving away info,
but would instaed create demind for the newest version to fit my unique needs.
3) False hopes: WEll, that is the market. If you can't deliver, then
maybe you should not announce it. But if you make a public commitment,
then maybe (acrrocing to social psychology) you should be more likely to
attmept to actually complete the project...
Am I wrong in any of this? I am not mad, I am just confused. What would
be a good reason not to let us know about this stuff?
Just curious...
Michael
p.s.: When can we fix the pallette problem between wp6.0 and dv 2.62?
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Hilmar Schlegel
> In article <CLytu...@cix.compulink.co.uk> d...@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Dylan Cuthbert") writes:
> >
> >Sorry to drag it on further but surely it increases interest in the
> >program for small snippets of information to be released?
> >
> >There must be quite a few people who are in half a mind to go completely
> >over to OS/2 or Windows 4/NT which means no coming back due to the fact
> >the entire system changes, BUT if they were to hear just rumours about
> >DV/X 2.0 or similar they would sit tight for just a few more months.
> >
>
> this week or next. Oooops? I wonder if I can talk about WHEN I can
> talk, instead of what I can talk about...
Please try to divide your wishes for future capabilities from the
really present new features. A more or less buggy version would surely not
be worth the update/upgrade. Some additional info about new design or goodies
wouldn't make the product worse. Really competitive features can be left for
the press release. The market is very dynamical now: (OS/2 "test install"
NVDOS7 "price" etc.) that you can only benefit from substancial info about
your strategy. You don't know how to tell how much the new version is better?
Only few people believe in that what is written in a press release- only
numbers and practice can tell what is going on.
Ah, before I forget- please do NOT forget us here overseas! (at least with
respect to the info)
Hilmar Schlegel
Bill Burge
>What I don't understand is:
>
>Who does it hurt to tell us about new stuff coming out?
>
>1) Current sales: Well, I may wait, but I may just get the current one
>to start the learning curve. If qdeck said 3-month window (purch in the 3
>mos before releasee get free up[grade) then there would be no sales problem..
>
>2) Compettion: WEll, though there are other xwindows produicts, and
>other multitaskskers, I thinkk the directions for most are pretty obvious.
> Faster, more options, etc. So, announcing new options is not really that
>much of a surprise to the market. However, Dv's procducts are uniques ihn
>that they are dos multitaksers/memory mangers as well as x windows rmote
>terms. This means that they a) have compet on two fronts or more likely
>b) have a unique position. So, this info would not be giving away info,
>but would instaed create demind for the newest version to fit my unique needs.
>
>3) False hopes: WEll, that is the market. If you can't deliver, then
>maybe you should not announce it. But if you make a public commitment,
>then maybe (acrrocing to social psychology) you should be more likely to
>attmept to actually complete the project...
>
>Am I wrong in any of this? I am not mad, I am just confused. What would
>be a good reason not to let us know about this stuff?
>
You are absolutely correct in all of this. We use these arguements
every time the issue comes up. The biggest responses are largely based
on your Number 3 and the fact that we are a publically held corporation.
If we did fail to deliver on something that was discussed, we could be
accused of attempting to falsely inflate the price of our stock or any
investment deal that might be going on in the background.
Not being an administrator, I REALLY agree to the last part of Number 3.
I would love to have a "written contract" for some of the features to
make SURE they didn't get postponed to another release.
>Just curious...
>
>Michael
>
>p.s.: When can we fix the pallette problem between wp6.0 and dv 2.62?
>
I'm not sure about the palette problem with WP 6.0, I know that WP6.0
has been a topic of discussion internally, but...
I did find out that something that hasn't been shown anywhere BUT WAS
put on a sales "talk about" sheet, is that DVX 2.0 will have support
for VESA video modes. I have eluded to this on a coule of occaisions
but couldn't come out and say "next release". If your video BIOS
has VESA vide modes (check Manifest; the Adapters/Video screen) and
I think it might require VESA version 1.01 or higher, I'm not sure
on that part. But some nice modes will be available to those with the
video memory and monitor to run them.
/\_/\ ARF!!
Still waiting for a press release! (0 0)
Peter L. Hurd
>I did find out that something that hasn't been shown anywhere BUT WAS
>put on a sales "talk about" sheet, is that DVX 2.0 will have support
>for VESA video modes. I have eluded to this on a coule of occaisions
>but couldn't come out and say "next release". If your video BIOS
>has VESA vide modes (check Manifest; the Adapters/Video screen) and
>I think it might require VESA version 1.01 or higher, I'm not sure
>on that part. But some nice modes will be available to those with the
>video memory and monitor to run them.
OK, at the risk of doing precisely what I ought not to do, could
someone, anyone, speculate on a quantitative definition of "nice
modes"? Specifically, would the probability of something higher
than 1024x768 be significantly higher than zero?
Disclaimer: I beleive the QDeck support staff presence on the
net is one of the best selling features of DV & DV/X. I accept
everything with a pinch of salt. I'm buying DV/X 2.0 regardless
of the answer to the video modes question. I ask that no one
does anything to prompt The Powers That Be to take out contracts
with any underworld organizations against anyone, at QDeck or
in the general population.
Geez, this thread is devellopping a serious an...@penet.fi kind of
overtone to it..
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Bill Burge
>bu...@qdeck.com (Bill Burge) writes:
>
>>I did find out that something that hasn't been shown anywhere BUT WAS
>>put on a sales "talk about" sheet, is that DVX 2.0 will have support
>>for VESA video modes. I have eluded to this on a coule of occaisions
>>but couldn't come out and say "next release". If your video BIOS
>>has VESA vide modes (check Manifest; the Adapters/Video screen) and
>>I think it might require VESA version 1.01 or higher, I'm not sure
>>on that part. But some nice modes will be available to those with the
>>video memory and monitor to run them.
>
>OK, at the risk of doing precisely what I ought not to do, could
>someone, anyone, speculate on a quantitative definition of "nice
>modes"? Specifically, would the probability of something higher
>than 1024x768 be significantly higher than zero?
>
Without making any claims that could consitute a verbal feature
contract, that in any way could be viewed as an attempt to inflate
sales, falsely or otherwise: yes.
Modes up to 1280x1024 and 256 colors may be available.
Disclaimer: These statements are made without prior consultation to
legal counsel and as such do not in any way constitute a good idea.
(This is getting weird enough to be fun! The legal mumbo-jumbo is
in this post only to spoof the legal issues involved :-) )
>Disclaimer: I beleive the QDeck support staff presence on the
>net is one of the best selling features of DV & DV/X. I accept
>everything with a pinch of salt. I'm buying DV/X 2.0 regardless
>of the answer to the video modes question. I ask that no one
>does anything to prompt The Powers That Be to take out contracts
>with any underworld organizations against anyone, at QDeck or
>in the general population.
>
>Geez, this thread is devellopping a serious an...@penet.fi kind of
>overtone to it..
>--
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>Zoologiska Institutionen | obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither
>Stockholms Universitet | liberty or safety. - Benjamin Franklin
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/\_/\ ARF!!
Peter Crowley
: Without making any claims that could consitute a verbal feature
: contract, that in any way could be viewed as an attempt to inflate
: sales, falsely or otherwise: yes.
: Modes up to 1280x1024 and 256 colors may be available.
I think that the limits on most of the hires cards to be
supported (in DVX 2.0) are
1280x1024 in 16 Colors
and
1024x768 in 256 Colors.
That is if I remember correctly.
Peter Crowley
pcro...@netcom.com
Philip Chee
I agree. I was almost about to commit to X/Vision+Windows for work
despite being a dedicated DV user when QOS came back to me with the
"DV/X 2.0" recommendation. By the way QOS at that time did not
indicate that this was embargoed information so I posted the
original message which started all this off. If I had inadvertently
stepped on somebody's toes I apologise.
Philip Chee
>
>In article <CLs6z...@cix.compulink.co.uk> d...@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Dylan> Cuthbert") writes:
>>> Does anybody know when v2.0 of DVX will be out? I was thinking of
>>> getting v1.2 but based on my requirements QOS suggested to me to
>>> wait for v2.0 out "real soon now"
>>
>>QOS *actually* said this? Did they give any ideas of what would be
>>included in the next version? What were your requirements?
>
>Bummer. There's been no public mention of DVX v2.0 (there has been some
>talk about the DVX "next release" that was shown at COMDEX, but NO talk
>about versions numbers). That means that some poor sole, went and told
>person PRIVATELY to sit tight. We do this sometimes and can get in very
>big trouble for discussing unreleased software. It's a big NO-NO. Now
>the screws will be tightened, and anyone that actively posts to the net
>will be under scrutiny for leaking company secrets and those who think
>that dealing with the .desqview newsgroup is a waste of company time,
>will have one more reason to shut it down and not allow company time for
>the purpose.
>Bummer.
> /\_/\ ARF!!
> (0 0)
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>
First of all I wish to apologise to QOS for inadvertently leaking
out information about DV/X 2.0 and specifically to <namewitheld> who
originally informed me about this. I am normally more careful about
this. However in my defence I would like to point out that:
1) There was no indication in the original e-mail that this was
embargoed information.
2) It said that DV/X 2.0 would be out in "a month or two". I waited
one and a half months before posting this enquiry to this news
group (OK so I should have waited a little longer :-( ).
Again deepest apologies {grovel} {grovel} {grovel}.
Bill Burge
>In article <1994Feb28....@qdeck.com> bu...@qdeck.com writes:
>>
>>In article <CLs6z...@cix.compulink.co.uk> d...@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Dylan> Cuthbert") writes:
>>>> Does anybody know when v2.0 of DVX will be out? I was thinking of
>>>> getting v1.2 but based on my requirements QOS suggested to me to
>>>> wait for v2.0 out "real soon now"
>>>
>>>QOS *actually* said this? Did they give any ideas of what would be
>>>included in the next version? What were your requirements?
>>
>>Bummer. There's been no public mention of DVX v2.0 (there has been some
>>talk about the DVX "next release" that was shown at COMDEX, but NO talk
>>about versions numbers). That means that some poor sole, went and told
>>person PRIVATELY to sit tight. We do this sometimes and can get in very
>>big trouble for discussing unreleased software. It's a big NO-NO. Now
>>the screws will be tightened, and anyone that actively posts to the net
>>will be under scrutiny for leaking company secrets and those who think
>>that dealing with the .desqview newsgroup is a waste of company time,
>>will have one more reason to shut it down and not allow company time for
>>the purpose.
> [...]
>>Bummer.
>
>out information about DV/X 2.0 and specifically to <namewitheld> who
>originally informed me about this. I am normally more careful about
>this. However in my defence I would like to point out that:
>
>1) There was no indication in the original e-mail that this was
> embargoed information.
Then the mistake was actually with the person who gave you the info,
I apologize for my fast-draw on the response.
>
>2) It said that DV/X 2.0 would be out in "a month or two". I waited
> one and a half months before posting this enquiry to this news
> group (OK so I should have waited a little longer :-( ).
Yeah, the earthquake (and a couple of organization changes and such)
has set us back a bit.
>
>Again deepest apologies {grovel} {grovel} {grovel}.
Sorry myself, I've been having these headaches... (Probably something
simple, like a tumor :-) )
Bill Burge
While I can't promise that it will be there when it ships, it is there
now. I haven't tested it personally and I know that it was once pulled.
Miss you Peter. Where can I get source for httpd 1.5?
Philip Chee
>>Michael
>>
>>p.s.: When can we fix the pallette problem between wp6.0 and dv 2.62?
>>
>
>I'm not sure about the palette problem with WP 6.0, I know that WP6.0
>has been a topic of discussion internally, but...
>
> /\_/\ ARF!!
>Still waiting for a press release! (0 0)
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>
I have just upgraded to WP 6.0a and DV386 2.62 and I have found the
^
palette problem gone. I'm not sure if it's the WP or the DV upgrade
(from 2.61) as I did both at the same time. The readme with the
2.62 patch said something about better support for "direct bit
twiddlers" and DACs, so Bill, I guess this is official...
Peter Crowley
: In article <pcrowleyC...@netcom.com> pcro...@netcom.com (Peter Crowley) writes:
: >Bill Burge (bu...@qdeck.com) wrote:
: >
: >: Without making any claims that could consitute a verbal feature
: >: contract, that in any way could be viewed as an attempt to inflate
: >: sales, falsely or otherwise: yes.
: >
: >: Modes up to 1280x1024 and 256 colors may be available.
: >
: >I think that the limits on most of the hires cards to be
: >supported (in DVX 2.0) are
: > 1280x1024 in 16 Colors
: >and
: > 1024x768 in 256 Colors.
: >That is if I remember correctly.
: >
: >Peter Crowley
: >pcro...@netcom.com
: >
: >
: While I can't promise that it will be there when it ships, it is there
: now. I haven't tested it personally and I know that it was once pulled.
: Miss you Peter. Where can I get source for httpd 1.5?
I ported NCSA's httpd version 0.4 to DESQview/X. If this is what
you are looking for get the sources via ftp at
bear.qdeck.com:/pub/www/httpsrc.zip
for the Whole story see
<A HREF="http://bear.qdeck.com/ports/httpd.html">l
Creating your own Web Server</A>
This version does not output MIME headers, support CGI (useful for
DataBase access and Maps). I was working on a much faster and more
current version (1.1) before I left Quarterdeck. All that said it
is still a functional Web Server and does the job quite well. .
Peter Crowley
pcro...@netcom.com
Michael Wexler
Copied:
I have just upgraded to WP 6.0a and DV386 2.62 and I have found the
^
palette problem gone. I'm not sure if it's the WP or the DV upgrade
(from 2.61) as I did both at the same time. The readme with the
2.62 patch said something about better support for "direct bit
twiddlers" and DACs, so Bill, I guess this is official...
Well, I wish I could agree, but I have 6.0_b_ for dos, and 2.62, and I
still have the pallette problem. Either it is a problme with the ATI card
that I use (not surprising) or something with the settings I have for wp.
If you could let me know your settings, or compare them to mine below, I
woudl appreciate it...
BTW: I have tried every combination of settings to get this to work
right, so changing things like Virt Graphics is not helpful; I want it to
virtualize. OF course it works without VG, but that defaeats the purpose...
The dvstart macro forces the program to use a differetn parameter file
(different colors so that the pallette looks normal) and to use regular
vga modes, not any of the extendeds....
Thanks for your help...
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Maximum Width.: 80 Starting Width.: 80 Starting Column:
0
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Shared Program
Pathname..:
Data......:
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Close on exit (Y,N,blank)......: [Y] Uses its own colors..............: [Y]
Allow Close Window command.....: [N] Runs in background (Y,N,blank)...: [Y]
Uses math coprocessor..........: [N] Keyboard conflict (0-F)..........: [0]
Share CPU when foreground......: [Y] Share EGA when foreground/zoomed.: [Y]
Can be swapped out (Y,N,blank).: [ ] Protection level (0-3)...........: [1]
Philip Chee
>Copied:
>>I have just upgraded to WP 6.0a and DV386 2.62 and I have found the
>> ^
>>palette problem gone. I'm not sure if it's the WP or the DV upgrade
>>(from 2.61) as I did both at the same time. The readme with the
>>2.62 patch said something about better support for "direct bit
>>twiddlers" and DACs, so Bill, I guess this is official...
>End Copy:
>Well, I wish I could agree, but I have 6.0_b_ for dos, and 2.62, and I
The 6.0_b is out? What does it fix?
>still have the pallette problem. Either it is a problme with the ATI card
>that I use (not surprising) or something with the settings I have for wp.
>If you could let me know your settings, or compare them to mine below, I
>woudl appreciate it...
>BTW: I have tried every combination of settings to get this to work
>right, so changing things like Virt Graphics is not helpful; I want it to
>virtualize. OF course it works without VG, but that defaeats the purpose...
>The dvstart macro forces the program to use a differetn parameter file
>(different colors so that the pallette looks normal) and to use regular
>vga modes, not any of the extendeds....
I think that using the /u=<inifile> to point to a different startup
file (colours, settings) would be a better method.
>Thanks for your help...
>Take a look:
Well, here's mine, for what's it's worth:
==W6-PIF.DVP=============================
Program name for menu: WordPerfect 6.0 Keys: W6
Program: c:\bin\4dos.com
Parameters: /c l:\wp6.bat
Directory: m:\wp60
Min memory: 512K Max memory: 600K Max exp memory: K System memory: 0K
Max height: 25 Starting height: 25 Starting row: 0 Script buf: 512
Max width: 80 Starting width: 80 Starting col: 0
Shared program:
Data:
Text pages: 1 Graphics pages: 2 Initial mode: Max keypolls:
Protection level: 0 Keyboard conflict: 0 Interrupts: 0 to FF
Y Writes text directly to screen Y Close on exit (Y/N/blank)
Y Virtualize text Y Allow Close Window command
N Virtualize graphics also Y Share CPU when in foreground
N Uses math coprocessor Can be swapped out (Y/N/blank)
N Uses COM1 Runs in background (Y/N/blank)
N Uses COM2 Y Share EGA when foreground/zoomed
N Requires diskette N Start hidden
Y Uses own colors N Start in background
Press F1 for help, ESC to quit without saving, or CONTROL-ENTER to save
===WP6.BAT===============================
@echo off
pushd
cdd O:\%NETUSER%
m:\wp60\wp.com /nt-1 /d-c:\temp /u=TASEK /ps=o:\%NETUSER% /R %2 %3 %4
popd
=========================================
Note: The NETUSER environment variable is set by the User's login
script
Hope this helps!
Larry Weiss
>Sorry about the bandwidth. I hope to have a press release in my hand
>this week or next. Oooops? I wonder if I can talk about WHEN I can
>talk, instead of what I can talk about...
you're depressing me.... 8-(
and your show demo guy always looks so upbeat! I didn't know
what awful pressure you guys are under.... 8-)
--
Larry Weiss, l...@oc.com
214/888-0471
Larry Weiss
>What I don't understand is:
>Who does it hurt to tell us about new stuff coming out?
>3) False hopes: WEll, that is the market. If you can't deliver, then
>maybe you should not announce it. But if you make a public commitment,
>then maybe (acrrocing to social psychology) you should be more likely to
>attmept to actually complete the project...
I guess they are sensitive ever since the five-year (well maybe it was
just three-year) gestation period for the initial release. Qdeck
sponsored several years of a developer's conference and the product
was still not on the shelves. By the way, I use DV/X all day, every
day, and wouldn't be without it in the mixed
UNIX/Mainframe/MSDOS/Windows/X world in which I work.
Bill Burge
>In article <2lg92a$j...@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> wex...@gibbs.oit.unc.edu writes:
>
>>Copied:
>>>I have just upgraded to WP 6.0a and DV386 2.62 and I have found the
>>> ^
>>>palette problem gone. I'm not sure if it's the WP or the DV upgrade
>>>(from 2.61) as I did both at the same time. The readme with the
>>>2.62 patch said something about better support for "direct bit
>>>twiddlers" and DACs, so Bill, I guess this is official...
>>End Copy:
>
>>Well, I wish I could agree, but I have 6.0_b_ for dos, and 2.62, and I
>
>>that I use (not surprising) or something with the settings I have for wp.
>
>>If you could let me know your settings, or compare them to mine below, I
>>woudl appreciate it...
>
>>BTW: I have tried every combination of settings to get this to work
>>right, so changing things like Virt Graphics is not helpful; I want it to
>>virtualize. OF course it works without VG, but that defaeats the purpose...
>
I believe that the solution is to set Virtualization to N and Runs in
Background to blank. If this is a graphics program, and is a protected
mode application, it cannot be virtualized. If it is a DAC twiddler,
and you want the DAC saved and restored, I think you need to set the window to
be non-virtualized.
>>The dvstart macro forces the program to use a differetn parameter file
>>(different colors so that the pallette looks normal) and to use regular
>>vga modes, not any of the extendeds....
>
> I think that using the /u=<inifile> to point to a different startup
> file (colours, settings) would be a better method.
>
>
>>Take a look:
>
>> Standard Options
>>
>> Program Name............: WordPerfect 6.0
>>
>> Keys to Use on Open Menu: WP Memory Size (in K): 512
>>DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>> Program...: wp.com
>>
>> Parameters: /m-c:\wp60\macros\dvstart /ps=c:\wp60\dv
>>
>> Directory.: C:\wp60
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>> Options:
>> Writes text directly to screen.......: [Y]
>> Displays graphics information........: [Y]
>> Virtualize text/graphics (Y,N,T).....: [Y]
>> Uses serial ports (Y,N,1,2)..........: [N]
>> Requires floppy diskette.............: [N]
>>
>>
>>
>> Advanced Options
>>
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