win 95 boot disk without cd?
azwoster
cd. I bought my machine used, sans cd. is there a way around MS's bs?
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You don't need the Windows 95 CD to create a boot disk, if the CAB
files were installed on your hard drive. When the prompt to insert the CD
pops up, click Okay, browse to or type in C:\Windows\Options\Cabs(assuming
C is your hard drive letter), then click Okay again. If the process graph
keeps working, you're in luck.
Frank Lavallee
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Michael Robertson
wrote:
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>azwoster wrote:
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>> my computer tells me i can't make a boot disk without the original
>windows
>> cd. I bought my machine used, sans cd. is there a way around MS's bs?
>>
Goto http://www.bootdisk.com
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Grakel wrote in message <1i7vgsob5bhfra1fr...@4ax.com>...
>Her it is!
>Enjoy!
>js
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> and Gives to The Greedy!
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"Grakel" <gu...@fcmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I'd say M$, for one, is less full of BS than present company.
> Learn to use some dos commands. Get Windows Commander.
> Make your own damn boot floppy.
You know, I can't help thinking this would be a better place if you'd
lose your attitude.
Johan Smit
On Tue, 02 May 2000 22:34:09 -0500, Grakel <gu...@fcmail.com> wrote:
> and the driver listed for your cd. FIND IT!!
There is my problem.
I know DOS, no problem there, but I cannot find the cd driver used by
Win95.
Could you tell me how to find that please?
Thank you
Johan Smit
AlasaMorph
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>If they can't find the help files how do you think they can find a
>binaries group???
>It is small. what's the problem??
>Your week in the barrel?? heh heh
>Oh, now I see, You're a BRIT in the land of know it alls.
>This was the easiest way to help these people.
>js
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>On Wed, 3 May 2000 09:35:55 +0100, "AlasaMorph" <P.O...@rl.ac.uk>
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Shirley Worrall
wrote:
Hi Johan,
If you can't find the driver, take a look at http://www.bootdisk.com/.
You should be able to find something there that will do the trick.
I had a bit of a nightmare adding CD support to my Win95 boot disk
when I recently upgraded to Win98SE (the good news is that Win98 seems
to add it automatically). Here's what I learned - hopefully it will
help you.
1. First, copy the file mscdex.exe to your Win95 boot disk.
2. Secondly, you need to find the other CD driver. My CD-Rom is a
Toshiba, and the file is called Toshv210.sys. Search your hard drive
for files with the .sys extension, and try to find one that has a name
that sounds something like the brand of your CD. If you can't find it,
you may find one on the manufacturer's web page. If you have no luck
there, try http://www.driversguide.com/. When you've finally found it,
copy it to the Win95 boot disk.
3. You then need to add a couple of lines to the autoexec.bat and
config.sys files on the Win95 boot disk.
CONFIG.SYS
Mine contains the following line. (Substitute the name of your driver
for the "toshv210.sys" set out in mine, and be sure to have copied the
driver to the floppy.)
device=a:\toshv210.sys /d:mscd000
AUTOEXEC.BAT
Mine contains the following line. It has an "f" at the end because my
CD-Rom drive is the F: drive. Substitute the letter that represents
your CD-Rom drive.
a:\mscdex.exe /d:mscd000 /L:f
4. You can now check out the floppy by booting with it and attempting
to change to your CD drive. Make sure to have a CD in there, and see
if you can read it. If you can, all should be fine.
Good luck. It took me a couple of hours recently to upgrade from Win95
to Win98SE, and about 90 minutes of that was working out what to do to
the Win95 boot disk to get the CD-Rom support :-)
Best wishes,
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are posted - including the
one Im using. Dont be such an arse-hole. I had my News service STOPPED dead
because I had a TEXT attachment in a news group that was non-binary. This
was classed as breaching the regulations on the use ofthe news service in
that group and complaints were made to the moderators and to the ISP.
Patrick
Grakel wrote in message <9jq2hsg57gs7664go...@4ax.com>...
>I can send my boot to one person,, or I can send to many.
>I choose the latter. Help more, do more.
>Stop bitching.
>You wanna help??
>Do it!!
>If you own this group, then put up a bot.
>On more from you, and I'll post win95 entoto.
>RIGHT HERE!!
Helen Allen
I have completed all the steps you outlined, but my Win95 boot disk does
not have an autoexec.bat. I have a copy of what is on C:, but none for
a: Could you please post an example of how to create one? Sorry for the
ignorance.
Thank you,
Helen
Tim
"Helen Allen" <peta...@mylink.net> wrote in message
> I have completed all the steps you outlined, but my Win95 boot disk
does
> not have an autoexec.bat. I have a copy of what is on C:, but none
for
> a: Could you please post an example of how to create one? Sorry for
the
> ignorance.
Helen,
Don't be concerned over your current lack of understanding in this
matter (I hate the word ignorance)
As a 'stop-gap', try looking at www.bootdisk.com where I think you'll
find some useful stuff such as
http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdir.htm#howto
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Helen Allen
Sorry for the use of the word 'ignorance'; let us just say that compared to
all of you I am extremely 'technically inferior' ;-) I clicked on the link
that you provided, but I do not even know how to "start" making an
autoexec.bat. This link said to 'add' to your autoexec.bat. That is why I
asked someone to show an example.
Also, since you are so kind and helpful, could you tell me why I can not
start windows from the dos prompt? I type cd\windows...then win
I get a message saying that hymem.sys is missing and to make sure that it
is in my windows directory...IT IS! I can not access my cdrom from the dos
prompt either. Mine is in E drive; I get the invalid drive message...
Thanks for your input :-)
Helen
Tim
"Helen Allen" <peta...@mylink.net> wrote in message
> I clicked on the link
> that you provided, but I do not even know how to "start" making an
> autoexec.bat. This link said to 'add' to your autoexec.bat. That is why I
> asked someone to show an example.
Start Notepad, but leave it blank for now and don't enter any text.
Now go to FILE and SAVE AS
Select the A drive as the destination for the file (SAVE IN box)
Where it says SAVE AS TYPE, change this to read ALL FILES (*.*)
Where it says FILE NAME, type AUTOEXEC.BAT (note the dot)
***DO NOT SAVE IT TO YOUR C: DRIVE***
you may / will overwrite any existing one you have.
You have just created a blank Autoexec.bat file.
> Also, since you are so kind and helpful, could you tell me why I can not
> start windows from the dos prompt? I type cd\windows...then win
> I get a message saying that hymem.sys is missing and to make sure that it
> is in my windows directory...IT IS!
I cannot immediately recall the answer to this one, but it is not due to a
fault as such on your system.
Something to do with the PATH to the file I believe. Perhaps don't concern
yourself with this just yet.
> I can not access my cdrom from the dos
> prompt either. Mine is in E drive; I get the invalid drive message...
Check back at that site I gave you. There are help files there that will
explain this a whole lot better than I can. The basics of it are, that your
CD drive hasn't at this point told the system it exists. It would do this
(only really applicable to DOS, Windows isn't affected) by loading drivers to
let the system know it is there.
Helen Allen
.bat file, but not what to put in one. My regular autoexec.bat that is supposed
to boot my computer does not make sense, so I can not use it for an example.
Everything seems to be 'remarked' out; I don't see how it does anything at
all...here it is:
rem - By Windows Setup - lh C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /d:mscd001
rem - C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\
@IF ERRORLEVEL 1 PAUSE
rem - By Windows 95 Network - C:\WINDOWS\net start
DUH..... (I put the 'rem' in front of McAfee because I have a corrupted update.
That is what started all this...my computer froze trying to load Windows after
installing the new .dat files). I am waiting for a response from McAfee about
fixing this...
...so I still do not know how to make an autoexec that does anything :-(
Please...if you have any patience left, could you show me an example of the
things I need to type into it? BTW: my config.sys looks like this...
devicehigh=C:\CDROM\CDROMDRV.SYS /d:mscd001
lastdrive=z
should I just substitute A:\ for the C:\ on my boot disk?
Thanks.
Helen
Tim
"Helen Allen" <peta...@mylink.net> wrote in message
> so I still do not know how to make an autoexec that does anything ...
Stands for AUTOmatically EXecuted batch file, the file that DOS automatically
executes when a computer boots up. This is a convenient place to put commands
you always want to execute at the beginning of a computing session. For
example, you can set system parameters such as the date and time, and install
memory-resident programs.
Take a look here .....
http://www.concentric.net/~Redward/achlp.htm
This url .....
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q174/0/18.asp?FR=1&LNG=ENG&S
A=PER
is somewhat more technical, but may give you a better understanding of how
Windows starts.
This page .....
http://www.winplanet.com/winplanet/tutorials/487/4/
will also help you understand how to add a CD driver to your boot disk by
editing config.sys and autoexec.bat
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Tim
"Helen Allen" <peta...@mylink.net> wrote in message
> so I still do not know how to make an autoexec that does anything ...
Stands for AUTOmatically EXecuted batch file, the file that DOS automatically
executes when a computer boots up. This is a convenient place to put commands
you always want to execute at the beginning of a computing session. For
example, you can set system parameters such as the date and time, and install
memory-resident programs.
Take a look here .....
http://www.concentric.net/~Redward/achlp.htm
This url .....
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q174/0/18.asp?
FR=1&LNG=ENG&SA=PER
is somewhat more technical, but may give you a better understanding of how
Windows starts.
(the URL will probably wrap so you'll have to copy and paste it)
Helen Allen
loads from the boot disk. Still can't figure out why it will not load from C:,
but I guess it does not really matter if I can load it from A:
I also have copies of the boot disk on both hard drives! One more question, and
I will leave you alone. If not mistaken, I think "Set Up" has a 3rd boot drive
option. Could I possibly use my other hard drive and boot from there in case of
floppy drive failure? It is not a partioned D:, it is a separate drive.
Thanks...and you have a really great web page. Almost makes me want to go there
:-)
Helen
Tim
"Helen Allen" <peta...@mylink.net> wrote in message
> If not mistaken, I think "Set Up" has a 3rd boot drive
> option. Could I possibly use my other hard drive and boot from there in
> case of floppy drive failure? It is not a partioned D:, it is a separate
> drive.
I'm not to sure what you mean here.
You can only normally boot from the drive that is C: or the active
partition, but there may be variations to this. I myself would be on a
learning curve here if indeed it is possible.
Donald Phillipson
>Thanks...I downloaded the files from the 1st link you sent me...and my
>CDrom now loads from the boot disk. Still can't figure out why it
>will not load from C:, but I guess it does not really matter if I can
>load it from A:
It loads the software from wherever the Autoexec and Config.sys
files directs the computer: which could be C:\ or A:\ (if you have
taken the trouble to copy essential operating files to the floppy:
this is a wise thing to do, to ensure you can boot even if some
catastrophe happened to your C:\.)
If you can boot from A:\ but not from C:\ one of the booting files
might have become corrupted on your hard drive. Compare the floppy
and hard drive versions of these two (at least for date and size),
rename that on the hard drive to FILENAME.BAK and copy the floppy's
version to the hard drive, then reboot from C:\ If this works OK you
have conformed FILENAME.BAK was corrupted, and can just delete it.
>I also have copies of the boot disk on both hard drives! One more
>question, and I will leave you alone. If not mistaken, I think "Set
>Up" has a 3rd boot drive option. Could I possibly use my other hard
>drive and boot from there in case of floppy drive failure? It is not
>a partioned D:, it is a separate drive.
This is hardly worth the trouble. If you have any reason to suppose
your floppy drive is going to fail within months, buy a replacement
and install it right now, and keep the old drive as a spare just in
case.
Installation is easy:
0. Shut down, switch off and remove outer case.
1. Unfasten the screws at the sides that hold the old drive in place.
2. Write down exactly how the two sets of wires are connected (power
wires and data=signal wires).
3. Disconnect the old drive. Watch for plastic latches that may need
to be triggered.
4. Connect the new drive identically.
5. Fasten it into place as before.
6. Test computer before you put the case on, being careful to touch
no wires when it is switched on.
7. Shut down and switch off. Check all electrical connections and
screws for tightness. (Loosened connections are more common than many
think, and cost nothing to fix.) Replace case
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Helen Allen
"Gateway" newsgroup for the other question.
Donald; thanks for the tip! But the autoexec and config are not the same
on my floppy as what is on my hard drive now. I copied some others from
the site that Tim sent and they worked. I think the problem is something
else because I can't even load windows from the C:\Windows\win. It keeps
insisting that Himem.sys is not there, and of course it is.
"This is hardly worth the trouble. If you have any reason to suppose your
floppy drive is going to fail within months, buy a replacement and install
it right now, and keep the old drive as a spare just in case."
I was really referring to the diskette itself, although I know I could make
two of them. As to another floppy drive, thanks for the installation
instructions. But I am proud to report that I have sucessfully replaced 2
CDRom drives and about 3 or 4 hard drives myself!
I am really not as dumb as I seem about dos either. I used to get around
pretty good in that environment...but it just does not work the same in Win
95. I just found out during this crisis that you could still use the old
dos commands/tools if you got them off your Win 95 CD. I did not even know
they were there. All I was able to do before that was run a directory; big
help!
This thread has gotten really long; I hope it helped someone else too!
Thanks,
Helen