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8-ft-7

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Feb 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/16/98
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If you have an old copy on Norton Utilities around, it could help...unless
you've got FAT32. Then you'd need 2.0 or 3.0, but overall NUtils have saved
my butt many times for things like this.

8'7"


krakan wrote in message <34e99e7a...@news.supernews.com>...
>When installing a new drive I ghosted partition to parition, 3 of
>them.
>As output drive is a 6.4 gb Quantum, I end up as wanted with 3
>partitions of 2 gb each.
>No problems but I think that maybe having used Ghost on a Win98 drive
>may have caused me problems.
>Essentially :
>1. in windows I cannot run setup to upgrade a new release.
> It keeps hanging on checking disks, tells me to run scandisk which
>
> doesnt find anything wrong.
> Neither does any other tool I have...
>2. I tried ghosting my c drive tto a spare hard disk so that I can
> reformat and see if that makes it better.
> Partition refuses to be ghosted....
>3. Installing NT , no problem but when it starts running, on checking
> system/drives, a nice blue screen...
>4. My antivirus tools One of which I wrote myself tells me that since
>
> last saved BIOS/FAT/MBR image, the FAT has been modified.
> I even saved the new FAT off but after the next reinstall it was
> back....
> And when testing some special ram receently the error went away
> when I added on sdram strrip of 64mb which makes no sense.
>
>Anyway, my suspicion is that having used ghost something is set in the
>
>FAT table due to Ghost not really knowing what a windows98 format disk
>is.
>What I like to know is what utility can analyse my FAT table and tell
>me whats wrong.
>It may be just one byte...
>I realise I am on the way to the long overdue reformat and am backing
>up stuff for that anyway.
>But its annoying to have a problem like this and not to know what
>causes it. Ideas welcome....

8-ft-7

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Feb 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/16/98
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I'm not familiar with ghost. Does it actually image the drive and copy
every file or is it similar to the old way using XCOPY to still a drive to
somewhere else?


krakan wrote in message <34f45785...@news.supernews.com>...
>On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:04:02 -0500, "8-ft-7" <eight...@aol.com>
>wrote:


>
>>If you have an old copy on Norton Utilities around, it could help...unless
>>you've got FAT32. Then you'd need 2.0 or 3.0, but overall NUtils have
saved
>>my butt many times for things like this.
>>
>>8'7"
>>

>No fat32 on MY bootdisks(g).
>I use it disks used for storage only but my main drives I nicely split
>into 3 equal parts, 2gb each.
>Main reason that I have recovery tools if the Fat16 drives get
>problems but am sunk with Fat32...
>Add to that the 98 Fat 32 seems to differ in some ways from osr2
>Fat32....
>I have old nortons in storage so yes, an idea..
>Looking only obviously!

Lotrat

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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>"8-ft-7" <eight...@aol.com> Wrote:

>I'm not familiar with ghost. Does it actually image the drive and copy
>every file or is it similar to the old way using XCOPY to still a drive to
>somewhere else?

Ghost is a great tool. I use it when I want to upgrade my primary HD. It will
fdisk, format, and copy everything on your original drive to you new drive.
You can also make an image and clone your system!

Free demo at http://www.ghostsoft.com/demo.htm

password is "mirror"

It's a fully functional demo with an experation date.
______________
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8-ft-7

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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I'll check it out. Thanks!

8'7"

8-ft-7

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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This could be really useful...some of the build-to-build stuff we have to do
requires upgrading from Win95 as often as possible. I guess I can ghost a
functional Win95 installation to another disk and keep restoring it every
time a new build is posted.

Thanks for the info!

8'7"

krakan wrote in message <34eac43c...@news.supernews.com>...
>On Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:32:02 -0500, "8-ft-7" <eight...@aol.com>
>wrote:
>


>>I'm not familiar with ghost. Does it actually image the drive and copy
>>every file or is it similar to the old way using XCOPY to still a drive to
>>somewhere else?
>>
>>

>it compleetly converts a drive/partition and readjusts the fat table
>for different size.
>Even can convert to different filing system if one clones partition to
>patition and fdisks those in advance.
>Ie Fat16 to Fat32 and vv.
>It has to be used with care as if not, you can overwrite your source
>disk....
>You can also store drive/partition image as a file...
>I have seen most tools of this kind and this in my opinion is by far
>the best. Runs even from 98 and has no problem cloning the system
>partition.
>Also can handle NT, os2 and Novell .
>reminds me if you use it wrong you CAN generate 2.5 or bigger Fat16
>partitions...
>It even runs until you hit spots which contradict each other!
>
>It even can work across a network or you could use it to ghost to file
>a certain disk you use as standard so you have like in my case in five
>minutes a restored partition....
>I keep those on cd, with a copy of ghost.
>Its a great program and if you hit bad files you can set it to ignore.
>Ie, like a slow diskrecovery.
>Not as good as a real one, but sure good enough for most usage.
>
>Catch as far as I can see with 98 is that latest versions of Ghost
>which I have seen say when using FAT32 (which I donot use) say its
>an unknown FAT32 parition and that means sizes may not be properly
>adjusted if input/output paritions have different size or more
>accurate, internal FAT settings may not quite correspond to what it
>says in the Fdisk info...
>I presume it will get fixed but I would be very very careful if ghost
>in/output partitions arent the same size/characteristics and using
>Fat32 from 98.
>
>
>

stev...@hotmail.com

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Feb 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/17/98
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In article <19980217021...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
lot...@aol.com (Lotrat) wrote:

>
> >"8-ft-7" <eight...@aol.com> Wrote:
>
> >I'm not familiar with ghost. Does it actually image the drive and copy
> >every file or is it similar to the old way using XCOPY to still a drive to
> >somewhere else?
>

Another great tool for maintaining a computer system is PictureTaker from
Lanovation. It may not lay down the operating system, but it makes
troubleshooting Windows 95 a snap. One of my biggest reasons for imaging my
computer is to put the machine back to a useable state. But now I just image
my machine with Ghost and then take a picture of my system. Anytime I install
a new driver or software I take a change picture. This finds all of the
changes the software made. I now take an active approach in keeping my system
operating at all times.

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8-ft-7

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Feb 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/18/98
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That sounds really cool. I'll pass along that info. There are some other
testers and people that could use this, as well as me. I assume from what
you say you can ghost onto a CD-R, but could you ghost to a Jaz drive?

8'7"


krakan wrote in message <34ec5148...@news.supernews.com>...
>make yourself the setup in 95 you want.
>THEN ghost that to a file and store that with the ghost on cd.
>Or another drive.
>I use a bootfloppy with cdrom drivers so my cd gets mounted, I go to
>the cd, run ghost and tell it to create a new disk.
>The situp doesnt help me on my home system as its98 itself which keeps
>changing....
>But to have a 100% identic starting system which you know has all you
>want, as said, 5 minutes and you can have a 'standard ' working pc.

Lotrat

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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>"8-ft-7" <eight...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>but could you ghost to a Jaz drive?

You can ghost to an image file and then back it up to your jazz drive. Here is
a tidbit from the manual.

Dump disk to image file…
This consists of three steps as follows:
1. Select source drive.
2. Enter file name to dump disk image to.
3. Proceed with disk copy.

GHOST will display the details of every disk it can find on the local PC and
allow you to select the disk you wish to copy from.
Enter file name to dump disk image to E.g.
G:\IMAGES\WIN95.IMG
Enter the full path name of the disk image file. E.g. if you are dumping
(copying) the entire contents of a workstation disk to a server drive, you must
enter the server’s drive letter, any subdirectory names and of course the image
file name.

beeeuuutiful aint it?
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8-ft-7

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Feb 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/19/98
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Thanks guys. I'll try it out.

8'7"


krakan wrote in message <34f24bad...@news.supernews.com>...

>You can ghost an image to any medium accepting storage as its a file.
>Unlikely you can use a zip as there isnt anyway you can create an
>image of a hard disk as file which fits on a zip unless you span
>disks.
>Ghosting direct to a zip disk: never tried it but with IDE internal it
>may work if mounted on an IDE recognised by bios.
>SCSI: I have had a few problems with it due to the wrong drive getting
>overwritten...

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