No System Resources??
Matt Anderson
some odd reason (that's really starting to annoy me) the performance tab
reports from 53-64% system resources are free. This is very strange. I'm
only running an anti-virus (NAV 5) in the background, but even without that
running, if I want to surf the net and play music, the sound will skip
everytime I click on a new link. This is just one example of how bogged
down my system has become. I don't want to reinstall windows, does anyone
have any thoughts or ideas? Thanks a lot
Matt Anderson
p.s I check my email more than these newsgroups, but either way I should be
able to get your response. Thanks again
Morely Dotes
>
>I'm running a AMD K6-2 300mhz with 64 megs of ram on a win98 box, and for
>some odd reason (that's really starting to annoy me) the performance tab
>reports from 53-64% system resources are free. This is very strange. I'm
>only running an anti-virus (NAV 5) in the background, but even without that
>running, if I want to surf the net and play music, the sound will skip
>everytime I click on a new link. This is just one example of how bogged
>down my system has become. I don't want to reinstall windows, does anyone
>have any thoughts or ideas? Thanks a lot
1. Install 98lite.
2. Get a Web browser that doesn't pretend it's part of the OS, like Opera for
example.
If you want to continue to use "free" crapware like IE4.x or IE5, get a faster
machine and more memory.
--
"Opt-out is a cop-out." - Jerry Bookter
[ No "courtesy copies" via e-mail, please. ]
This message was tested on small, cute, furry animals
who cried piteously while it was being read to them.
Martin Ozolins
than one that is tuned for the OS.
2. check the NAV settings. you'll probably find it scanning everything all
the time.
3. With IE 4 make sure the software is current and that you've got the IE4
sound pack kit installed. Windows update can do this automatically.
Matt Anderson wrote in message ...
>I'm running a AMD K6-2 300mhz with 64 megs of ram on a win98 box, and for
>some odd reason (that's really starting to annoy me) the performance tab
>reports from 53-64% system resources are free. This is very strange. I'm
>only running an anti-virus (NAV 5) in the background, but even without that
>running, if I want to surf the net and play music, the sound will skip
>everytime I click on a new link. This is just one example of how bogged
>down my system has become. I don't want to reinstall windows, does anyone
>have any thoughts or ideas? Thanks a lot
>
Martin Ozolins
does recommend that it not be larger than 2x RAM as that can cause
thrashing.
Eric Gisin wrote in message ...
>I had the same machine with 32MB (now 48MB) and it was FAST with IE 4. I
>don't run backgroup virus checkers. There must be more background software
>(or drivers) involved.
>
>I get sound skips when the system is thrashing (excessive paging), which is
>to be expected. If you get skips without lots of disk I/O, I would think
its
>a sound card/driver problem.
>
>
Martin Ozolins
see it reinforced in "The WindowsNT Registry, A Settings Reference" by
Sandra Osborne, New Riders 1998, pp 68-69. Plus there's the old saw, IT
WORKS.
BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com wrote in message
<3713b922....@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:48:43 -0700, "Martin Ozolins"
><Martin....@cwusa.com> wrote:
>
>>That sounds like a reasonable diagnosis, check your page file settings, MS
>>does recommend that it not be larger than 2x RAM as that can cause
>>thrashing.
>
>Microsoft advises no such thing! Please give a link to a knowledge
>base article that says this if you think I'm wrong.
>
>BB
Eric Gisin
Eric Gisin
Win95. Whenever I ran enough apps to grow the page file above 32MB, I had
thrashing. It's just a rule of thumb.
:
Martin Ozolins
the part about the initial size should equal the maximum size tho.
>
Eric Gisin wrote in message ...
Martin Ozolins
PLONK
BinaryBillTheSailor@Sea++.com wrote in message
<37141408...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
>On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:26:45 GMT, "Eric Gisin" <er...@techie.com>
>wrote:
>
>>It may not be in the KB, but I've found it to be true when I had 16MB on
>>Win95. Whenever I ran enough apps to grow the page file above 32MB, I had
>>thrashing. It's just a rule of thumb.
>
>You had thrashing because you didn't have enough RAM and you needed to
>use your swap file heavily. Your thumb rule is totally bogus. Totally.
>
>BB
Eric Gisin
Of course thrashing is a result of too little ram for the working set. I
notice it happens at 2X, that's an empirical observation. What do you think
rule of thumb means?
:
John Efird
That sounds like a reasonable diagnosis, check your page file settings, MS
does recommend that it not be larger than 2x RAM as that can cause
thrashing.
Thanks.
-- +---------------------------+---------------------------+ + John Efird + jef...@harris.com + + UNIX System Administrator + + +---------------------------+---------------------------+
Martin Ozolins
XonXoff
"Martin Ozolins" <Martin....@cwusa.com> wrote:
> 1. Ignore morons that think a third party software browser will work better
> than one that is tuned for the OS.
Tuned .. uh huh.. ever since i removed IE4 my machine has been a hapier
camper. Take you blinders off.
> but even without that
> >running, if I want to surf the net and play music, the sound will skip
> >everytime I click on a new link. This is just one example of how bogged
> >down my system has become.
Gee that looks like a tuned app., click on a link and bog down the system.
> >
> >p.s I check my email more than these newsgroups, but either way I should be
> >able to get your response. Thanks again
> >
> >
>
>
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
Pai Yili
<ixhQ2.348$hl6....@news.itd.umich.edu>:
>I'm running a AMD K6-2 300mhz with 64 megs of ram on a win98 box, and for
>some odd reason (that's really starting to annoy me) the performance tab
>reports from 53-64% system resources are free. This is very strange. I'm
>only running an anti-virus (NAV 5) in the background, but even without
that
>running, if I want to surf the net and play music, the sound will skip
>everytime I click on a new link. This is just one example of how bogged
>down my system has become. I don't want to reinstall windows, does anyone
>have any thoughts or ideas? Thanks a lot
>
>Matt Anderson
>
>p.s I check my email more than these newsgroups, but either way I should
be
>able to get your response. Thanks again
Hello Matt,
Do yourself a favor and get a copy of the O'reilly Utilities
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/utilwin98/
Use this tool to turn off all of the web crap in Win98. Then use it
to turn off all of the animations.
Use it to disable the Active Desktop.
Watch what all of this does to your system resources reading. Next, use
this utility to optimize your virtual memory.
You can actually use Win98 with a bit of stability and speed (sort of), but
you have to get rid of the fancy geegaws to accomplish it.
--
Pai Yili Pai Lum Kung Fu
Co-Moderator: rec.martial-arts.moderated
http://www.windowswarrior.com/ Windows/DOS Tips and Tweaks!
"When negotiating without social distinction, truth emerges."
(Rawles Veil of Ignorance)
Pai Yili
>On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:20:54 -0700, "Martin Ozolins"
><Martin....@cwusa.com> wrote:
>
>>I have read that there, though I don't remember the article. I did,
however
>>see it reinforced in "The WindowsNT Registry, A Settings Reference" by
>>Sandra Osborne, New Riders 1998, pp 68-69. Plus there's the old saw, IT
>>WORKS.
>
>Well it doesn't work very well because it is wrong. That formula would
>give someone with 16MB of RAM a 32 MB swap file which is way too
>small, and someone like me with 512MB a swap file of 1 gigabyte, which
>is way too big. Your rule is broken.
>
>Again, I request that you find a link to a knowlege base article. Who
>is Sandra Osborne? She's nobody. Anybody with a pencil and paper can
>write a book. I've seen your method in print before, too. But not from
>anybody other than independant authors, who often are dead wrong about
>lots of things. Show me something from the people who wrote the
>software. You can't, because they never said any such thing.
>
>BB
>
Hi,
I could be wrong about this, but I believe that the actual recommended
swap file size for NT is something like:
RAM sixe + 11 MEG
It does not have to be one file, in multi-disk systems it can be divided
into a few smalled files, one per disk, but i am reasonably sure i
remember the amount correctly.--
JustMe
most likely its a crappy driver for your video card causing "scrolls" to use
most of the processor.
u can:
1. get a better video card or updated driver
2. turn off smooth scrolling with tweak ui
3. get a better sound card (pci uses less handshaking of the processor than
isa)
i have made an mp3 player to put in my car, and even running on house
current and normal conditions, it skips and crakles when scrolling. turned
out the builtin agp video card was "noisy" and interfering with the wires
(theres tons of em right above it [ie i made a supersmall case to house the
guts]) i added a seperator (conductive foam) betwean it and the soundcard
wires and the noise was gone!
whatever, out...
JustMe
> camper. Take you blinders off.
yes, the win95 config is faster than the win98.
but i have to admit, ie is the best browser ive seen.
ya ive tried netscape and mozilla betas and such but ie (dare i say it) has
lotsa neat features i just cant pass up.
btw check out my mp3man at
www.cs.tamu.edu/people/bryanb/Mp3man/mp3man.html
it doesnt use the faster 95 because i steal microsoft mp3 decoder found in
98 w/media player 6 :-/
JustMe
> is busy a lot of time being an expensive disc controller, it sure isnt
> going to have time for sound....
>
talking about udma.... i recently had to turn it off :-/
seems that the idiots that made it did one of those "nobody will ever have
more than 8.4 GIGAbytes of hd!"
anyway, just wondering if the performance stuff is still there when you have
to declare the thing as a LARGE hd and not UDMA hd. still seems fast as
hell to me