8'7"
Micro wrote in message <34ff782c...@news.mindspring.com>...
>On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 02:49:49 GMT, kra...@my.email.address (krakan)
>wrote:
>
>>I was forced to convert a 2 gb partition (internet stuff) as it had
>>filled up with many small files.
>>I use teleport a lot and thata means many small files due to many gifs
>>and other samll files being present.
>>So gaining an extra 800mb was worth it.
>>
>>Whole thing took about 5 minutes on an UDMA second 2 gb partition
>>(Quantum 6.4 st fireball) .
>>Only problem is that at the end the ms defrag takes such a long
>>time!!!
>>Anyway, it shows that a conversion doesnt have to take hours.
>>I suspect that 96mb ram and p2-266 do help though!
>>1. why does ms defrag take so much longer then Nortons...
>> Any reason why one should prefer the MS version??
>> I use Nortons v3, latest version with updates (mainly for
>> diskdoctor and defrag)
>>
>>
>>2, Any idea what would happen if I tried this on my boot disk which
>>MAY have a fattable with a problem except that neither scandisk or
>>Norton can find it....
>>Considering that under windows I cannot install an updated 98 or under
>>dos boot to NT due to some problem I hesitate to gamble on my boot
>>partition!
> All 4 of my IDE drives are Fat32 (2- ATA4, 2-ATA3) with no
>problems or loss of noticeable speed ( yes, it can be measured, but so
>can the spped of sound and I can't see that either <G> Don't make too
>much of benchmarks , see how it works in the REAL world first.)
> As to MS defrag and NU3 speeddisk, a lot has to do with which
>you run first. While both defrag the disk they place files in a
>different order on the disk physically. (Speeddisk has more adjustable
>options in this area) Running one after the other guarantees a long
>wait. Also bear in mind that Fat32 has generally four times (4K vs
>16K) as many clusters as a Fat16 disk and will take longer to defrag
>for that reason alone. (I use 2K clusters on mine, 8 times the Fat16
>norm, but they still defrag fast if defragging is done on a regular
>basis. And yes cluster size is much more adjustable from the FDISK
>command line than with Partition Magic and isn't it interesting that
>Partion Magic "appeared" after the Detroit beta, when MS decided not
>to release their in-place Fat32 convertor and funny how BOTH have the
>exact same limitations. Hmmm.)
> I see no difference, only a slight speed increase with
>Speeddisk over MS defrag, PROVIDED one or the other is used on a
>consistent basis BEFORE comparing speeds. (Try it for yourself using 5
>defrag as a baseline on each) Back to back testing (which I normally
>recommend for most things) will in this case give totally unreliable
>results in this case. I believe this to be because BOTH the MS and NU
>defraggers take several "defrags" before they truly have the files on
>the HD "in order" to their basic satisfaction. Until then, they
>continue to move files around causing an increase in run time. This is
>one reason I beleive both come with a way of setting up background
>operation and setting up "scheduled " runs.
>
>
> Micro
I'm not sure about Norton 3.0 I'll find out though. I too was surprised at
the riduculous estimation the FAT32 converter gave. I think I'll send in a
bug on that.
8'7"
krakan wrote in message <34edcd03...@news.supernews.com>...
>On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 06:07:34 -0500, "8-ft-7" <eight...@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Also MS Defrag will actually fragment your HD to move around the
application
>>files you use most often to the easiest cylinder of your hard drive for
the
>>heads to reach. It increases application load time considerably, but the
>>catch is that Norton will catch it doing this and report excessive disk
>>fragmentation. I guess you can't win all the wars, can you? :-)
>
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>>8'7"
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>I thought Norton v3 does the same...
>Biggest surprise for me was that windows warns me for hours
>conversions and it takes a few minutes...
>Agreed though with the rest, and obviously one should stick with one
>program:: makes it difficult to see how the other program behaves