How do I get NT to backup open files ?
Chris Diamond
I need to backup files even if they are open during the backup. How can I get the NT backup program to do this?
Mike Brannigan
Chris Diamond wrote:
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> I need to backup files even if they are open during the backup. How can I get the NT backup program to do this?
You can't. You need to buy a third party backup program like
BackupExec from Arcadia. They wrote the NT Backup program and this is
the grown up version.
There are others available like ArcServe, Palindrome etc etc.
"Ya Pay's Ya Money And Takes Your Chance."
Regards
Mike
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Manfred Meier
Arcada has the same problem it can't backup open files. You have tu use
ULTRABAC this program can backup open files.
Visit the homepage:
http://www.ultrabac.com/
regards Manfred
Bill Warbis
In article <31E223...@shinobi.demon.co.uk>,
Mike Brannigan <Mi...@shinobi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Chris Diamond wrote:
>You can't. You need to buy a third party backup program like
>BackupExec from Arcadia. They wrote the NT Backup program and this is
>the grown up version.
>There are others available like ArcServe, Palindrome etc etc.
I am using BackupEXEC for windows NT and it does not backup open files either.
It will however mark thes files as not being backed up and you can run a
"backup skipped files". But the truth is that you probably wont find anything
that will backup an open file for the simple reason that you dont want the
current file to be changed in the process of being backed up. There are some
exceptions like SQL server where Backupexec will sell you a (for a small price
of $300.00) a module to backup the databases while SQL server is running. hope
that helps.
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Peter Penney
Mike Brannigan <Mi...@shinobi.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Chris Diamond wrote:
>>
>> I need to backup files even if they are open during the backup. How can I get the NT backup program to do this?
>You can't. You need to buy a third party backup program like
>BackupExec from Arcadia. They wrote the NT Backup program and this is
>the grown up version.
>There are others available like ArcServe, Palindrome etc etc.
>"Ya Pay's Ya Money And Takes Your Chance."
>Regards
>Mike
>--
Yes you can backup files that are in use, I use it sometimes. Use
"regedit" to change the value of the key:
\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ntbackup\User Interface\Skip open files
from "1" to "0". Ntbackup will then give you a warning that it backed-up
a file that was in use. When restoring, it will also give you a warning
that it restored a file that was in-use.
./Take care, Peter Penney -> ppe...@engr.mun.ca Programmer Consultant,
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St. John's, NF, Canada; (709) 737-7604; web = http://www.coop.mun.ca/
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Michael Willems
Chris_...@diamond.net (Chris Diamond) wrote:
>I need to backup files even if they are open during the backup. How can I get the NT backup program to do this?
I just backup from another PC, and log in as a user who has read-only
rights. That works fine. Try it?
-=Mike
Oakville, ON, Canada
Leo Maddox
Chris Diamond (Chris_...@diamond.net) wrote:
: I need to backup files even if they are open during the backup. How can I get the NT backup program to do this?
I devised a workaround for critical files (one, in particular). You can
make a copy of the file(s) to a scratch directory. Since the copied files
are not being accessed, they can then be backed up. This may prove to be
an enormous pain in the butt, but it's the only way to do it without
using third-party software. The other way to do it is to shut down all
apps and logoff all users, and you still can't back up files NT itself uses.
--
Tom Maddox, graduate, Zathras School of Software Troubleshooting (TM)
"Zathras cannot say. Saying, Zathras would know. Knowing, Zathras would
say. Zathras not know, so Zathras cannot say." -- Zathras, _Babylon 5_
Viper
In article <A1404BD1_CDB3F24...@Candlebox.diamond.net>,
Chris_...@diamond.net says...
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>I need to backup files even if they are open during the backup. How can I get
the NT backup program to do this?
>
Here's a trick that I use. It works pretty well.
Assuming the files are open remotely (over a network) you can close the files
on the server by executing NET SESSION /DELETE immediately before starting the
backup. This closes all open files, as long as they are not open locally.
Since my backups are scheduled, I have used AT to schedule the execution of
this command a few minutes before backup starts. (The clocks on the file
server and the machine with the tape drive are, of course, synchronized, via
another AT command NET TIME \\anothermachine /SET /YES). Incidentally, the
\\anothermachine is synchronizing its clock with a nuclear clock via the
Tardis service over the 'net (available at many ftp sites).