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Brent Horton

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Apr 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/9/97
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do...@spam.com wrote:
>
> How is NTFS different from FAT? Does NTFS come only with Windows NT or
> does it come with 95 too?

Windows 95 uses FAT - it cannot read or write to a drive formatted with
NTFS. NTFS is only for Windows NT.

sp...@spam.ccom

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Brent Horton wrote:

> Windows 95 uses FAT - it cannot read or write to a drive formatted with
> NTFS. NTFS is only for Windows NT.

Is there a way to check whether you have NTFS or FAT on your hard disk?

JM

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Well, at least this works for FAT16 or FAT32 (I don't know about NTFS,
since I'm in the office and my NT machine is home): Start FDISK in a DOS
box, select the drive number (in most cases, 1 or 2), then select "Display
Partition Information" and it will tell you. The immediately press escape
until you're out of FDISK, since we don't want to accidentally press any
other keys! There may be a way under Windows 95 (there must be!), but I
can't think of it off the top (bottom? :) of my head.

Good luck!

Joe

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Brent Horton

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sp...@spam.ccom wrote:
>
> Brent Horton wrote:
>
> > Windows 95 uses FAT - it cannot read or write to a drive formatted with
> > NTFS. NTFS is only for Windows NT.
>
> Is there a way to check whether you have NTFS or FAT on your hard disk?

Sure. Double click "My Computer," right-click on the drive you want to
check, go to "Properties," click the "General" tab at the top, and one
of the things it says is "File system: " and it tells you.

bah

John Savill

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Apr 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/9/97
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In NT just right click on the drive and select properties and it will tell
you the file system.

John
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JM wrote in article <01bc44f8$bd16d6a0$c012...@912.bates.edu>...


>Well, at least this works for FAT16 or FAT32 (I don't know about NTFS,
>since I'm in the office and my NT machine is home): Start FDISK in a DOS
>box, select the drive number (in most cases, 1 or 2), then select
"Display
>Partition Information" and it will tell you. The immediately press
escape
>until you're out of FDISK, since we don't want to accidentally press any
>other keys! There may be a way under Windows 95 (there must be!), but I
>can't think of it off the top (bottom? :) of my head.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Joe
>
>sp...@spam.ccom wrote in article <334B3A...@spam.ccom>...

Shawn Gamble

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Apr 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/9/97
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On 9 Apr 1997 15:15:57 GMT, "JM" <jma...@hamilton.edu> wrote:

Sure there is. Click on my computer. Pick a drive and then right click
it and pick properties. It will show the drive, free space and file
system used

Meat Vehicle

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Apr 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/9/97
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If you are using Win95/Memphis or NT4 open the idiot window file
explorer - right click on the drive - choose properties and it will
display whether the disk is formatted using FAT16 or Fat32 or NTFS.

On 9 Apr 1997 15:15:57 GMT, "JM" <jma...@hamilton.edu> wrote:

>sp...@spam.ccom wrote in article <334B3A...@spam.ccom>...
>> Brent Horton wrote:
>>

>>
>> Is there a way to check whether you have NTFS or FAT on your hard disk?
>>

"Let us hear no more of trust in government,
let us bind them with the chains of Constitution!"
Thomas Jefferson

Ben Saitz

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Apr 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/10/97
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NTFS is a much more secure system, with dynamic cluster allocation to
minimize the need for defrags..

FAT16 is good with hard drives up to 2gig, thats why they invented FAT32,
which is good for drives up to 2gig and way beyond.

pity, is NT wont have any FAT32 support anytime soon, and 95 wont have NTFS
support anytime soon..

ergo, dual booters usually leave FAT16 all around..

ben

Brent Horton wrote in article <334B7A3D...@eos.ncsu.edu>...


>sp...@spam.ccom wrote:
>>
>> Brent Horton wrote:
>>
>> > Windows 95 uses FAT - it cannot read or write to a drive formatted
with
>> > NTFS. NTFS is only for Windows NT.
>>

>> Is there a way to check whether you have NTFS or FAT on your hard disk?
>

Anonymous

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do...@spam.com wrote in article <334B0E...@spam.com>...


>How is NTFS different from FAT? Does NTFS come only with Windows NT or
>does it come with 95 too?
>

Ntfs belongs to nt alone. Win95 will not recognize ntfs format.


John H.F. Mills

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Apr 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/11/97
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On 9 Apr 1997 15:15:57 GMT, "JM" <jma...@hamilton.edu> wrote:

>Well, at least this works for FAT16 or FAT32 (I don't know about NTFS,
>since I'm in the office and my NT machine is home): Start FDISK in a DOS
>box, select the drive number (in most cases, 1 or 2), then select "Display
>Partition Information" and it will tell you. The immediately press escape
>until you're out of FDISK, since we don't want to accidentally press any
>other keys! There may be a way under Windows 95 (there must be!), but I
>can't think of it off the top (bottom? :) of my head.
>

>Good luck!
>
>Joe


>
>sp...@spam.ccom wrote in article <334B3A...@spam.ccom>...

>> Brent Horton wrote:
>>
>> > Windows 95 uses FAT - it cannot read or write to a drive formatted with
>> > NTFS. NTFS is only for Windows NT.
>>
>> Is there a way to check whether you have NTFS or FAT on your hard disk?
>>

Take a look on:
http://www.ntinternals.com

You should be able to find a driver that enables you to read any NTFS
partitions you have on your disks form windows 95...


MICHEL YOUNG

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Apr 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/15/97
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do...@spam.com wrote:
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> How is NTFS different from FAT? Does NTFS come only with Windows NT or
> does it come with 95 too?
NTFS adds features and security to the File system that FAT does not.
The easiest two examples that I can give you is If you were to boot a
machine with a FAT and NTFS partition, the FAT partition can't read the
NTFS partition. But the NTFS partition can read FAT.

The second example is that in NTFS everything on that partition has an
atribute. You can set data attributes, security attributes, file name
attributes. With NTFS you can set gobs and gobs of permissions and
security that you can not set in FAT.

Does this come with 95? No. Will it? Who knows.

Oh one final note NTFS also allocated larger disk sizes better than fat.
But FAT32 (comes with Windows 95B) is SUPPOSED to take care of the
sector allocation problem of FAT16
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Christopher Barry Rose

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Apr 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/16/97
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On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:09:41 -0700, MICHEL YOUNG
<MIY...@mail.co.santa-barbara.ca.us> wrote:


>NTFS adds features and security to the File system that FAT does not.
>The easiest two examples that I can give you is If you were to boot a
>machine with a FAT and NTFS partition, the FAT partition can't read the
>NTFS partition. But the NTFS partition can read FAT.

Wrong! There is a driver available that allows you to read NTFS
volumes under dos/windows/windows95. You can't write yet but they are
working on it.


Saman

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Apr 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/18/97
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Christopher Barry Rose <cr...@gvi.net> wrote in article
<335541da....@news.alt.net>...

Please let us know where to find this driver.

Thank you.

Saman

Luke Brennan

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Apr 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/18/97
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In article <01bc4ba6$55f05780$f62185c2@server>
"Saman" <gr...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote:


Read the NT FAQ at http://www.savilltech.com/


Eric

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Apr 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/28/97
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I have a Dell Pentium PRO 200 with 64 MB of RAM running NT server
version 4.0. I've got an Intel EtherExpress pro ethernet card in there
are as well, along with a Matrox Millenium Graphics card. My problem is
that whever I leave NT on for a couple hours, I invariably come back to
find that it has crashed. This happens when the workstation is locked,
when a user is left logged, and when no one is logged in at all. It is
driving me crazy! Any ideas?

Eric
er...@ejb.mit.edu

dave

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May 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/2/97
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I just had a new 3G HD go bad. Every time I tried something it
crashed. Have you done a CHKDSK on your drive?

OTOH, could it be a componenet with a thermal problem? Try a hair
dryer on the inside.

Edward Betts

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May 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/8/97
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On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:44:57 -0400, Eric <er...@ejb.mit.edu>
scribbled:

>I have a Dell Pentium PRO 200 with 64 MB of RAM running NT server
>version 4.0. I've got an Intel EtherExpress pro ethernet card in there
>are as well, along with a Matrox Millenium Graphics card. My problem is
>that whever I leave NT on for a couple hours, I invariably come back to
>find that it has crashed. This happens when the workstation is locked,
>when a user is left logged, and when no one is logged in at all. It is
>driving me crazy! Any ideas?

Does your PC have any 'green' features? Like powering down
the hard drives when not in use for some time. I read in a
magazine, byte I think, of a similar situation. Try checking
your BIOS, and disabling any power saving features.
--
Edward Betts, http://www.hairnet.demon.co.uk/edward
SteroTypist - Somebody who types with both hands

Finnur P. Frodasson

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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dave wrote:

> I just had a new 3G HD go bad. Every time I tried something it
> crashed. Have you done a CHKDSK on your drive?
>
> OTOH, could it be a componenet with a thermal problem? Try a hair
> dryer on the inside.
>
> Eric <er...@ejb.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> >

> >I have a Dell Pentium PRO 200 with 64 MB of RAM running NT server
> >version 4.0. I've got an Intel EtherExpress pro ethernet card in
> there
> >are as well, along with a Matrox Millenium Graphics card. My problem
> is
> >that whever I leave NT on for a couple hours, I invariably come back
> to
> >find that it has crashed. This happens when the workstation is
> locked,
> >when a user is left logged, and when no one is logged in at all. It
> is
> >driving me crazy! Any ideas?
> >

> >Eric
> >er...@ejb.mit.edu

It's more likely the Matrox card - you will need to update the flash
bios on the Matrox cad and use their newest driver.
go to www.matrox.com.
I hope this helps

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Finnur P. Frodasson

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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Weilin Hou

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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Edward Betts wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:44:57 -0400, Eric <er...@ejb.mit.edu>
> scribbled:
>
> >I have a Dell Pentium PRO 200 with 64 MB of RAM running NT server
> >version 4.0. I've got an Intel EtherExpress pro ethernet card in there
> >are as well, along with a Matrox Millenium Graphics card. My problem is
> >that whever I leave NT on for a couple hours, I invariably come back to
> >find that it has crashed. This happens when the workstation is locked,
> >when a user is left logged, and when no one is logged in at all. It is
> >driving me crazy! Any ideas?
>
> Does your PC have any 'green' features? Like powering down
> the hard drives when not in use for some time. I read in a
> magazine, byte I think, of a similar situation. Try checking
> your BIOS, and disabling any power saving features.
> --
> Edward Betts, http://www.hairnet.demon.co.uk/edward
> SteroTypist - Somebody who types with both hands

If you have sp2 installed, that's why.

To fix, it is recommended to reinstall sp2. Sometimes it works,
sometimes it doesn't. How's SP3 going? (well, this time I will wait
couple of months before I jump in).

Hope this helps.

Weilin

F. van Leeuwen

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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Finnur P. Frodasson wrote in article <3376BE04...@centrum.is>:

Finnur,

You posted your question about NT in all these newsgroups:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.pre-release
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup
comp.os.ms-windows.pre-release
comp.os.ms-windows.setup
comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win3x
comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95
comp.os.ms-windows.win95

PLEASE be more selective next time!!!
Frank.

Inquisitive

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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I had the same problem and it turned out that it was due to the drives
powering down. It's not likely that the problem is the Matrox (I use
one with bios version 1.9) or the service pack (I'm using SP3). Check
the power saving features. That's the most likely culprit.


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