Installin WIN NT 3.5 with NCR 53C810 SCSI PCI-card
Petri Timonen
I cannot install Win NT 3.5. Every time installing stops when it cannot detect my SCSI hard disk drives.
Problem seem to be with my SCSI-card. Here is information about my computer:
Pentium 60 MHz
2 PCI bus
5 ISA bus
Diamond Stealth 32 PCI 2M videocard
NCR 53C810 PCI SCSI card
14400 Well Faxmodem
Media Vision Prosonic 16 soundcard
I/O card(2 com, 1 lpt)
Quantum 540 MB hard disk
Toshiba 1 GB hard disk
When starting computer SCSI-card says:
NCR SDMS (TM) V. 3.0
PCI SCSI BIOS. PCI REV 2.0
NCRPCI-3.04.00
and in card chips read:
SN: 940539356
PTH3045-2
SP-0810
NCR 53C810
G09-0391399
XP04798 9410S
I have tried all Win NT drivers to get from NCR ftp-site. None of them worked. Neither the drivers which come with Win NT. Every time installation stops after selecting SCSI-card.
Is there any possibility to get NT working? Or should I give up using NT? Or buy another SCSI-card?
I have also tried to install without modem and soundcard. Also using only one hard disk. None of them helped.
Thank you for your advices.
Petri Timonen
ptim...@snakemail.hut.fi
Soren Bang
>
>When starting computer SCSI-card says:
>NCR SDMS (TM) V. 3.0
>PCI SCSI BIOS. PCI REV 2.0
>NCRPCI-3.04.00
>
Well ... I am sitting in the wrong office to really answer this question. Your
setup sound very much like the DEC XL560 computer I have at home. On that machine
NT 3.1/3.5 works just fine. I will look into the setup I use at home and will
return to you in a couple of days (if you can wait that long ?).
Soren
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Tim Keating
>In article <ptimonen....@snakemail.hut.fi>, ptim...@alpha.hut.fi says...
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>>When starting computer SCSI-card says:
>>NCR SDMS (TM) V. 3.0
>>PCI SCSI BIOS. PCI REV 2.0
>>NCRPCI-3.04.00
>>
^^^ Most of the NCR BIOS's this point also display the
devices(one per line) they find on the SCSI bus.
It appears that your NCR isn't finding any devices.
Thatusally indicates the SCSI bus Cable is plugged in backwards
on at least one device or on the NCR board itself.
Tim K.
Jan Tore Markussen
Had the same problem. Upgraded the BIOS on my motherboard. Problem went away.
I had NCR-BIOS 3.04. Upgraded to 3.06. I think that the problem is there.
Hope this help.
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Kenneth Jackson
NT or Linux to boot I had to assign an IRQ to the "Latency Timer" (whatever
that is). If your BIOS has something like "Advanced Chipset Features" try
playing with the NCR settings and see if it will install.
Kenneth Jackson
V Bourdakis
>Hi there!
>Had the same problem. Upgraded the BIOS on my motherboard. Problem went away.
>I had NCR-BIOS 3.04. Upgraded to 3.06. I think that the problem is there.
>
>Hope this help.
>
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> - Jan Tore - "I doubt,
>j...@alkymi.unit.no therefore I must be."
>
It looks like it is a flash one.
My card is a 815 (BIOS on the card) with BIOS 3.04
Thanks in advance
Vassilis
ab...@midge.bath.ac.uk
Peter J Quodling
>In article <ptimonen....@snakemail.hut.fi>, ptim...@alpha.hut.fi says...
>>
>>When starting computer SCSI-card says:
>>NCR SDMS (TM) V. 3.0
>>PCI SCSI BIOS. PCI REV 2.0
>>NCRPCI-3.04.00
Had the same problem on a DX2/66. Fiddled a timing thing in the bios and it came good.
Worked fine with WFW, but died with NT. Note. Microsoft have released new 810 drivers since
3.5 but I haven't researched what they are for...
PQ
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Petri Timonen
>sb...@istc.org (Soren Bang) writes:
>>In article <ptimonen....@snakemail.hut.fi>, ptim...@alpha.hut.fi says...
>>>
>>>When starting computer SCSI-card says:
>>>NCR SDMS (TM) V. 3.0
>>>PCI SCSI BIOS. PCI REV 2.0
>>>NCRPCI-3.04.00
ok after that it cames:
ID 0 Quantum 540 LPS
ID 1 Toshiba 1054
(I forget to write that)
> ^^^ Most of the NCR BIOS's this point also display the
> devices(one per line) they find on the SCSI bus.
> It appears that your NCR isn't finding any devices.
> Thatusally indicates the SCSI bus Cable is plugged in backwards
> on at least one device or on the NCR board itself.
> Tim K.
Everything cannot remember to write all the time. How do you think I have used before computer if any HD is detected?
yours. Petri T.
ja...@netcom.com
> Had the same problem. Upgraded the BIOS on my motherboard. Problem went away.
> I had NCR-BIOS 3.04. Upgraded to 3.06. I think that the problem is there.
>
I had a lot of problems with the 3.06 bios. My hardware was a asus pci/i-486sp3g motherboard.
The solution I found was to add a subkey in the NT Registry under the:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ncrc8xx entry.
It should be the subkey Device0.
You should then add the values under the Device0 subkey of:
DisableDisconnects=DWORD (1)
DisableMultipleRequests=DWORD (1)
DsiableSynchronousTransfers=DWORD(1)
DisableTaggedQueuing=DWORD(1)
This shoudl actually leave all thses features on. The driver seems to look at these registry values and do something bad if there not there. The
values for each entry seems to have no effect on fixing things (at least for me and someone else).
The problem is, you can't set these values if your booting from the scsi disk that doesn't work. Mabey they could be added to a setup.inf
file at NT install time. I was using the latest drivers FTP'd from attgis with NT 3.5.
The NT ResKIt talks all about these optional scsi miniport registry entries.
I just sent mail to Microsoft and the ncr ship group. Perhaps they will have a better fix or comments soon. The other person who
said this fixed his config, said MSFT, ASUS, and NCR did not know about this fix.
- Jan