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Trayce Jordan

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Sep 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/12/95
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I am still trying to get my Sound Blaster AWE32 to work completely
under NT 3.51, and I'm frustrated.

About 3 months ago (before I upgraded 3.50 to NT 3.51), I had
the AWE32 working seemingly fine. I could use the MIDI
synth, rather than FM, I could play .MID files, .WAV files, and
I could even use the 16bit programs that came with the AWE32
for Windows 3.1.

Mysteriously however, after about a month or so, although
I could still play the .MID files, it no longer supported
the MIDI synth, and all my sounds came out using the
FM synth.

I have since upgraded to NT3.51, and have tried re-installing the
NT drivers to no avail. In the MIDI mapper, I can get the
SNDBLST OPL3, and the SNDBLST AD LIB maps to work
(since they're FM synth), but ALL of the SBAWE32 ... maps,
(ALL, Bas & Ext) will not work (they use the MIDI synth).

What happens is, when I go into Media Player (or any other
program to try and play a .MID file), I get that "the device
is currently in use, please try again later" message, and
of course, the device is NOT in use, and I can never get
it to work.

Does ANYONE have a solution to this problem? I'm
quite frustrated. I've tried removing all drivers with respect to
sound including the MCI interfaces, MIDI mapper, and
all CSP and Soundblaster entries, as well as removing the
files, and then re-installing them.

Please HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you


Nikko de Man

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Sep 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/13/95
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Soundblaster is a whopping piece of garbage!!!!! If you want righteous
sounds in ANY environment ESPECIALLY in NT than get an Audiotrix PRO!!!!
When you use Mod4Win the Audiotrix Pro Samples and plays the sounds
on-board and does not eat any CPU time!!! ALL the drivers for this card
work, it is not some kind of a joke like drivers from creative labs!!!

Check out: http://www.fmmo.ca/mediatrix/

OR Call them AT: 1-800-820-TRIX


Put your sound troubles to rest for good!!


Nikko

dave porter

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Sep 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/13/95
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In <434ftc$8...@boris.eden.com>, trjo...@a.crl.com (Trayce Jordan) wrote:

> I am still trying to get my Sound Blaster AWE32 to work completely
> under NT 3.51, and I'm frustrated.

Have you got the latest drivers from http://www.creaf.com/ ?
You want the kits SB16NT35.EXE and NTAW32.EXE.

I have no experience with AWE32, but those drivers work
fine with SB32 and NT 3.51.


Wieslaw Kochanski

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Sep 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/13/95
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Check if you have some midi programs which load auto when you start Nt.
Or if you have some keyboard connect to your midi out on awe32 board.
For ex. I have mediaplay and CakeWalkPro.When I use Cake I can't play
media midi.

You can have connect to your midi, -synth or -out what you want
but only one thing at the time.
Win3.11 you can use a router and have up to four diffrent prog. connect
to midi out or in, but I never seen this prog. for NT.
You must have some kind of software which use midi which take away your
midib from you when you start NT.

Wieslaw Kochanski

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http://www.algonet.se/~wieslaw/

Country: Sweden
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The Orc King

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Sep 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/13/95
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| Check out: http://www.fmmo.ca/mediatrix/

That's a real petty way to let us know that is what you have in
your machine. Like we care.

Noel S. Hebert

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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Trayce,

I kind of worked through the same problem. I have a Roland
SoundCanvas attached as a daughter-board which uses the
MPU-401 port otherwise known as MIDI-OUT. At first I
read through the newsgroups saying download this driver,
delete this, add that. All I got was FM Synth or the
onboard AWE32 (occasionally).

After re-installing NT 3.51 (or various reasons...;) I
used the plain-Jane Sound Blaster driver shipped with NT.

Yes, you only see the OLP3 drivers in the Midi Mapper...
But, create a new mapping! For each channel the drop down
list will have FM Synth and 1.5 Blaster MIDI OUT.

Viola! I am now enjoying my SoundCanvas. I had trouble
before with the Creative Labs AWE32 drivers for NT
and so not willing to mess with a working solution.

I still would like to get text-to-speech to work...

Hope this helps, of course your milage may vary...

Noel.

Noel S. Hebert

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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Trayce,

Reply part II.

You mention in your last paragraph that you removed all the
sound, Midi, MCI related stuff. This is where I think I
screwed up. DON'T delete or remove anything that says
"Required by the system". Install the basic sound drivers.
These seem to work with the generic MIDI OUT, WAVE OUT
system interface drivers, otherwise you get FM Synth only.


I might be wrong, but this seemed to work for me.

Noel.

Nikko de Man

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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Get REAL to the max!!! The sound section and power section on the
Audiotrix are WAY seperate from each other. Not like the AWEsome hum and
hiss you get with the soundblaster! The Mediatrix gives you righteous
sound AND you can use it if you are a REAL musician as well!! I and MANY
people on this group will NEVER forget the "too bad-so sad" we got from
sack of crap creative labs when their GARBAGE didnt work or we needed
drivers!! SCREW EM!!! The Audiotrix had NT drivers from DAY ONE!!!

>>Nikko

Nikko de Man

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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Kochanski Wieslaw <wie...@algonet.se> wrote:
>I'm running Pentium66 asusboard with doubble boot
>DOS-Win3.11/NT.
>I hade awe32 from day one.
>Never ever hade any problems with this board.
>
>Hmm. I think much is up to your selv.
>I think you should have Mac med plogg_and_play and change
>the news group.
>If you want to run NT you must know something about computers.
>
>This is what I think.
>Wieslaw Kochanski

Maybe ENGLISH is a little DIFFICULT for you. If you look at the
Audiotrix board you will see that it was designed by people who KNOW what
they are doing. It has a much CLEANER sound (s/n ratio) than any piece of
crap that has ever come out of creative labs. Creative Labs drivers SUCK
to the max. You dont have to understand english to know this. Please
subscribe to: alt.learn.english and also alt.soundcards.that.suck and I
think that you will be a happy man!!

>>Nikko

>


Wieslaw Kochanski

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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My inglish is not so god I know. But you manage to understand any way.
You are a kid and you need some more years to go in your live before
I will talk with you again.

Wieslaw Kochanski.


Kochanski Wieslaw

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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I'm running Pentium66 asusboard with doubble boot
DOS-Win3.11/NT.
I hade awe32 from day one.
Never ever hade any problems with this board.

Hmm. I think much is up to your selv.
I think you should have Mac med plogg_and_play and change
the news group.
If you want to run NT you must know something about computers.

This is what I think.
Wieslaw Kochanski

mailto:wie...@algonet.se

Nikko de Man <Ni...@neotec.com> wrote:

Greg Connor

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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Nikko de Man <Ni...@neotec.com> wrote:

>Maybe ENGLISH is a little DIFFICULT for you. If you look at the
>Audiotrix board you will see that it was designed by people who KNOW what
>they are doing. It has a much CLEANER sound (s/n ratio) than any piece of
>crap that has ever come out of creative labs. Creative Labs drivers SUCK
>to the max. You dont have to understand english to know this. Please
>subscribe to: alt.learn.english and also alt.soundcards.that.suck and I
>think that you will be a happy man!!

Well, I'd rather hear a non-native speaker's civil English than a rude
and boorish native speaker. And, you're wrong. The AWE32 isn't that
good, but the AudioTrix Pro is worse. Moreover, I have numbers to
prove it, unlike your unfounded assertions.

Oct. 1995, Computer Shopper, "New Wave"

A-Weighted Signal-to-Noise Ratio
Audiotrix Pro ($433) = 74.7
AWE32 ($270) = 74.9


Stereo Separation (left to right/right to left)
Audiotrix = 68.8/ 70.4
AWE32 = 88.1/89.2

Also Total Harmonic Distortion at 50Hz and 15KHz was terrible on the
Audiotrix (i.e. > .3% in some cases).

Get the Turtle Beach System Multisound Monterey if you're at all
serious about advanced audio on the PC. Also, listen Nikko the Dork,
GET A LIFE!!!!

-Greg Connor

Kochanski Wieslaw

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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In awe32 instalation_dir you have new midimap.cfg its older
then NT_midimap.cfg but this is the right midimap.cfg.
Copy this file to system32/ and reaktivate awe32 and
goto midimap_icon and set it to awe32all.

Thanks

Wieslaw Kochanski

mailto:wie...@algonet.se


Jerome ZECHES

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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In article <439dki$3...@degas.ICSI.Net> Nikko de Man <Ni...@neotec.com> writes:

>Maybe ENGLISH is a little DIFFICULT for you. If you look at the
>Audiotrix board you will see that it was designed by people who KNOW what
>they are doing. It has a much CLEANER sound (s/n ratio) than any piece of
>crap that has ever come out of creative labs. Creative Labs drivers SUCK
>to the max. You dont have to understand english to know this. Please
>subscribe to: alt.learn.english and also alt.soundcards.that.suck and I
>think that you will be a happy man!!

>>>Nikko

Perhaps the Audiotrix has much cleaner sound, but you should compare things
that are comparable. Before bying an AWE, I looked at the Audiotrix and its
price was twice that of the AWE. So, AT LEAST it should be better than the SB.
Anyway, i'm happy with my AWE, it gives you many features you don't have on
other wavetable cards in the same range of price. Moreover it's upgradeable
with high-end daughterboards, has an SP/DIF connector, EASY TO CONFIGURE
(against what some people say), well supported, ... many things I like.

Jerome

P.S. : Sorry for my english :-)
****************************************************************************
Jerome ZECHES | You reap what you sow
zech...@cti.ecp.fr | Put your Face to the Ground
| Here come the marching Men
Ecole Centrale Paris, France | Your Colours wrapped around
| A.Eldritch, Colours
****************************************************************************

Peter Kim

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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In article <439dki$3...@degas.icsi.net>, Nikko de Man <Ni...@neotec.com> wrote:

>Kochanski Wieslaw <wie...@algonet.se> wrote:
>>I'm running Pentium66 asusboard with doubble boot
>>DOS-Win3.11/NT.
>>I hade awe32 from day one.
>>Never ever hade any problems with this board.
>>
>>Hmm. I think much is up to your selv.
>>I think you should have Mac med plogg_and_play and change
>>the news group.
>>If you want to run NT you must know something about computers.
>>
>>This is what I think.
>>Wieslaw Kochanski
>
>Maybe ENGLISH is a little DIFFICULT for you. If you look at the
>Audiotrix board you will see that it was designed by people who KNOW what
>they are doing. It has a much CLEANER sound (s/n ratio) than any piece of
>crap that has ever come out of creative labs. Creative Labs drivers SUCK
>to the max. You dont have to understand english to know this. Please
>subscribe to: alt.learn.english and also alt.soundcards.that.suck and I
>think that you will be a happy man!!
>
>>>Nikko
>

Yo Nikko, Chill out man. There is no reason to get so emotional
about soundcards (although I should be accused of the same). Let's not
go insulting somebody for something other than soundcards. Before
you go on bagging the AWE, I would ask that you get a chance to listen to
one. I have heard that AudioTrix Pro is a nice soundcard, but AWE
isn't exactly a piece of crap as you had mentioned. Good day.

- Peter

Neil Ferguson

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Sep 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/15/95
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|> Maybe ENGLISH is a little DIFFICULT for you. If you look at the
|> Audiotrix board you will see that it was designed by people who KNOW what
|> they are doing. It has a much CLEANER sound (s/n ratio) than any piece of
|> crap that has ever come out of creative labs. Creative Labs drivers SUCK
|> to the max. You dont have to understand english to know this. Please
|> subscribe to: alt.learn.english and also alt.soundcards.that.suck and I
|> think that you will be a happy man!!

Some people are born assholes, whilst others really have to work at it :)
How many languages do you speak - other than your variety of English?

Dr Neil Ferguson
Dept. Zoology
Oxford Univ., UK

John Outlan

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Sep 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/16/95
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pk...@netcom.com (Peter Kim) wrote:

>In article <439dki$3...@degas.icsi.net>, Nikko de Man <Ni...@neotec.com> wrote:
>>Kochanski Wieslaw <wie...@algonet.se> wrote:
>>>I'm running Pentium66 asusboard with doubble boot
>>>DOS-Win3.11/NT.
>>>I hade awe32 from day one.
>>>Never ever hade any problems with this board.
>>>
>>>Hmm. I think much is up to your selv.
>>>I think you should have Mac med plogg_and_play and change
>>>the news group.
>>>If you want to run NT you must know something about computers.
>>>
>>>This is what I think.
>>>Wieslaw Kochanski
>>

>>Maybe ENGLISH is a little DIFFICULT for you. If you look at the
>>Audiotrix board you will see that it was designed by people who KNOW what
>>they are doing. It has a much CLEANER sound (s/n ratio) than any piece of
>>crap that has ever come out of creative labs. Creative Labs drivers SUCK
>>to the max. You dont have to understand english to know this. Please
>>subscribe to: alt.learn.english and also alt.soundcards.that.suck and I
>>think that you will be a happy man!!
>>

>>>>Nikko
>>

> Yo Nikko, Chill out man. There is no reason to get so emotional
>about soundcards (although I should be accused of the same). Let's not
>go insulting somebody for something other than soundcards. Before
>you go on bagging the AWE, I would ask that you get a chance to listen to
>one. I have heard that AudioTrix Pro is a nice soundcard, but AWE
>isn't exactly a piece of crap as you had mentioned. Good day.

> - Peter

It is pretty incredible to get emotional about a damned sound card. I
have never been "flamed" on usenet in the year and a half I have been
on it because I try to use a little "tact" when responding to an
article. However I did laugh at the comment about a guy that belongs
in a Zoo. ;^)

Later,

--------------------------------------------------------------

John Outlan
jou...@iag.net
--------------------------------------------------------------


Paul Swainbank

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Sep 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/17/95
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trjo...@a.crl.com (Trayce Jordan) wrote:

>What happens is, when I go into Media Player (or any other
>program to try and play a .MID file), I get that "the device
>is currently in use, please try again later" message, and
>of course, the device is NOT in use, and I can never get
>it to work.


My AWE32 Works fine using the creative labs drivers. however I did
experience the same message as Trayce after installing ram onto the
card ( 2 x 1MB ) .removing the ram fixed the problem. anyone else seen
this.


Paul Swainbank
mrp...@iconz.co.nz


Bill Richman

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Sep 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/19/95
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lre...@crl.com (Les Reeves) wrote:
>>|> Maybe ENGLISH is a little DIFFICULT for you. If you look at the
>> (additional examples of poor foreign relations deleted)

>>|> subscribe to: alt.learn.english and also alt.soundcards.that.suck and I

>>Some people are born assholes, whilst others really have to work at it :)


>>How many languages do you speak - other than your variety of English?
>

>Isn't that a little harsh?
>
>I would say you belong in a Zoo, but well..
>
>---
>Les lre...@crl.com Atlanta,GA 404.874.7806

What? Is it that hard for you to admit that we have a**holes in this country??
Would you support him if he made fun of the mannerisms of the speaking-impaired
too, or is it only okay to belittle foreign people because English is a second
language for them? I would say that *you* belong in Georgia, but well...
You're already there! :-*

--
"That'll cost ya' two chickens..." -- The Mighty Phavaugh


Robert Zeff

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Sep 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/23/95
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res...@nando.net (Greg Connor) wrote:

>
>Well, I'd rather hear a non-native speaker's civil English than a rude
>and boorish native speaker.

I agree, this guy is a jerk, but he's probably not reached puberty.
With regard to the AWE32, I found that it distorts badly before
reaching full amplitude when recording. This is not good.
--
Robert


> And, you're wrong. The AWE32 isn't that
>good, but the AudioTrix Pro is worse. Moreover, I have numbers to
>prove it, unlike your unfounded assertions.
>
>Oct. 1995, Computer Shopper, "New Wave"
>
>A-Weighted Signal-to-Noise Ratio
> Audiotrix Pro ($433) = 74.7
> AWE32 ($270) = 74.9
>
>
>Stereo Separation (left to right/right to left)
> Audiotrix = 68.8/ 70.4
> AWE32 = 88.1/89.2
>
>Also Total Harmonic Distortion at 50Hz and 15KHz was terrible on the
>Audiotrix (i.e. > .3% in some cases).
>
>Get the Turtle Beach System Multisound Monterey if you're at all
>serious about advanced audio on the PC. Also, listen Nikko the Dork,
>GET A LIFE!!!!
>
>-Greg Connor
>
>

Robert Zeff
rz...@moa.com
CServe: 70323,1251


Jim Stevenson

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Sep 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/26/95
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Another problem that CL has is that they refuse to make their manuals
available to the blind. They give many really cheep excuses.

There number is (800) 998-1000.

Any suggestions re how to talk their CEO in to working in the dark for an hour?

Thanks.

Dr. Jim Stevenson
ji...@eos.arc.nasa.gov
(415) 604-5720 w
or leave message any time.

ji...@eos.arc.nasa.gov

Rich

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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On 26 Sep 1995 18:25:50 GMT, ji...@ccrma.stanford.edu (Jim Stevenson)
wrote:

>
>Another problem that CL has is that they refuse to make their manuals
>available to the blind. They give many really cheep excuses.
>

Why not just have a friend over and read it to you??? ; ) Curiosity
though, how the hell would a blind man change jumpers and install the
card. Are the Jumper numbers and pins in Braille?????


Daron Myrick

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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|>Another problem that CL has is that they refuse to make their manuals
|>available to the blind. They give many really cheep excuses.
|>
|
|Why not just have a friend over and read it to you??? ; ) Curiosity
|though, how the hell would a blind man change jumpers and install the
|card. Are the Jumper numbers and pins in Braille?????

Oh, just what a blind person wants is to be dependant on someone else.
Also, yes, there are blind people that can configure a sound card along with doing many other
things that would suprise you.

Ralf R. Kotowski

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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On 26 Sep 1995 18:25:50 GMT, ji...@ccrma.stanford.edu (Jim Stevenson)
wrote:

>


>Another problem that CL has is that they refuse to make their
manuals
>available to the blind. They give many really cheep excuses.
>

>Why not just have a friend over and read it to you??? ; ) Curiosity
>though, how the hell would a blind man change jumpers and install
the
>card. Are the Jumper numbers and pins in Braille?????

Hmmm, Let me see, could it be that if the instructions where in
braile that you coul "feel" your way around on the card and find "the
second jumper from the left and top, and then switch it to the
second position?

I agree it's a cheap excuse!!

DarkMoon


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