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Richard Bondi

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May 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/23/95
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Mark Minasi's book on NT is just not helping me here, and I'm very
confused:

I set a directory as shared (permission = Everyone) on the NT
Workstation, and when I bring it up in filemanager on a WfW machine,
filemanager asks me for a password: WHAT PASSWORD??!!!! There is NOTHING
in the Share As... dialog about passwords!

And I admit it: I don't understand what a permission is w.r.t. connecting
to a WfW machine. Since you can't log on to an NT machine from WfW, what
relevance do user/group-dependent permissions have??

Sigh.

A thousand thanks to anyone who can help me here. A reference to a good
book on WfW would be great, too!

RB

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Drake Callahan

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May 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/24/95
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In article <D91tw...@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, Richard Bondi <rs...@Virginia.edu> says:
>
>Mark Minasi's book on NT is just not helping me here, and I'm very
>confused:
>
>I set a directory as shared (permission = Everyone) on the NT
>Workstation, and when I bring it up in filemanager on a WfW machine,
>filemanager asks me for a password: WHAT PASSWORD??!!!! There is NOTHING
>in the Share As... dialog about passwords!
>
>And I admit it: I don't understand what a permission is w.r.t. connecting
>to a WfW machine. Since you can't log on to an NT machine from WfW, what
>relevance do user/group-dependent permissions have??
>

You can log into a NT Domain from WFW. ControlPanel->Network->Startup;
Check the box that says log into an NT Domain. This will have NT verify
your login on startup. This logon can also be done when you try to access
a resource on the NT workstation (thus the prompt for a password). If you
want to share the directory without having the WFW logon to NT, use the
Guest account and leave the password blank. However, this does have security
problems. Also, if you are running NTFS you need to check that the files
have the correct permissions in addition to the share permissions.

WFW workstations can not be domain members because they do not have the
security of a NT domain. However users can log into NT domains from WFW
to access resources.

Murray J. Root

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May 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/25/95
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[>==========Richard Bondi, 5/23/95==========
[>
[>Mark Minasi's book on NT is just not helping me here, and I'm very
[>confused:
[>
[>I set a directory as shared (permission = Everyone) on the NT
[>Workstation, and when I bring it up in filemanager on a WfW machine,
[>filemanager asks me for a password: WHAT PASSWORD??!!!! There is NOTHING
[>in the Share As... dialog about passwords!

If a user has an account on the NT machine, the account password MUST be used.
Even if Guest access is allowed.
Also, if the Guest account is disabled, WFWG users don't have access.

[>
[>And I admit it: I don't understand what a permission is w.r.t.


[>connecting
[>to a WfW machine. Since you can't log on to an NT machine from WfW, what
[>relevance do user/group-dependent permissions have??

[>

Set up a Guest account.


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ben_van_zanten

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May 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/25/95
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:: I set a directory as shared (permission = Everyone) on the NT
:: Workstation, and when I bring it up in filemanager on a WfW machine,
:: filemanager asks me for a password: WHAT PASSWORD??!!!! There is NOTHING
:: in the Share As... dialog about passwords!

:You can log into a NT Domain from WFW. ControlPanel->Network->Startup;

:Check the box that says log into an NT Domain. This will have NT verify
:your login on startup. This logon can also be done when you try to access
:a resource on the NT workstation (thus the prompt for a password). If you
:want to share the directory without having the WFW logon to NT, use the
:Guest account and leave the password blank. However, this does have security
:problems. Also, if you are running NTFS you need to check that the files
:have the correct permissions in addition to the share permissions.

:WFW workstations can not be domain members because they do not have the
:security of a NT domain. However users can log into NT domains from WFW
:to access resources.

BEWARE !!
we are talking NT Workstation here. This means there are no domains.
Don't be mislead; when using NT WS & WfW we are in a workgroup. This means
every computer has its own security database. If you are using each others
resources and have the same account names, make sure the passwords are identical
.
Then there's no problem. Otherwise you'll fall back into using the Guest
account. Check out whether the guest account is disabled and what the security
settings are.

Grtx,
Ben van Zanten.

JimC

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May 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/26/95
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Uh, if you try disk/share as/permissions, it shows you groups.
if the group is everyone, no password is required. Check the "User
administrator for domains" box. You dont need a WFW book, you need an NT
book. Not that I have any clue whats going on either :).
Jim


John C. Jansen

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May 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/30/95
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I have had the same problem. Here is what I did. When you specify everybody,
that means everybody that your NT workstation knows about. If you are in a
DOMAIN, then it's everybody in the domain. Other users still can not access
your shares. So my questions are, are you using domains? Do you have accounts
created for the people you want to use that share? I am in a domain and have
users that were members and were not members sharing my drive. My setup?
Everyone who had no domain account, I added as a local user of my machine.
Then in the file managers permissions dialoge for shares AND for the actual
directory, I added the domain members from DOMAIN\USERNAME and the local
members from USERNAME. To browse a domain instead of the local machine, look
at the top of the window for a little box with the current machine name.
Change that to the domain name and click show users. Viola. There is the list
of Domain Users. Hope this helps.

John


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