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cljlk

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Mar 31, 2001, 1:25:12 PM3/31/01
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Hi,

I have Notebook with Windows 2000 operating system and Desktop with
Windows NT4.0. I have to to transfer some of files from Notebook to Desktop.
Would anyone tell me how to transfer? I don't have CD wirter to do that.
Could I transfer from Notebook to Desktop directly?

Thanks in advance.

Chiz1206

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Mar 31, 2001, 7:30:03 PM3/31/01
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You can either use a program like Laplink, or you can try to set up a custom
network.

for the network, you either need a crossover cable or a hub. make sure both
of the machines are on the same subnet (make one 192.168.1.1 and the other
192.168.1.2 with a subnet of 255.255.255.0). Then you should be able to see
them in Network Neighborhood.

-chiz


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John van Poelgeest

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> for the network, you either need a crossover cable or a hub. make sure
both
> of the machines are on the same subnet (make one 192.168.1.1 and the other
> 192.168.1.2 with a subnet of 255.255.255.0). Then you should be able to
see
> them in Network Neighborhood.
>
Or use NetBeui: Install and run. No need to set anything, and more than
sufficient for the transfer of files.

John

the fly

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Mar 31, 2001, 5:20:54 PM3/31/01
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There are a few options:
IF both computers use FAT file systems instead of NTFS,
you can use a simple serial cable and software such as
LapLink.
If you really want to exercise your networking skills
(and pull most of your hair out!!!) you can arrange a
Direct Cable Connection (DCC). It requires a serial
cable that you may have to make for yourself, plus
jumping through many hoops, to set up correctly.
By far the simplest way, and most useful for the
future, is to obtain a couple of network cards and a
crossover cable, and set up TCP/IP networking between
the machines.

Chiz1206

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Mar 31, 2001, 8:57:29 PM3/31/01
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Yeah, sorry. I'm still in the Win2K/Linux mode of thinking.

-chiz

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Mason Ip

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Mar 31, 2001, 11:30:00 PM3/31/01
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cljlk wrote...

If you have less than 50 MB files to transfer, the simplest way
is to use the floppy drive.
Zip up the stuff on the source PC, use some file splitiing utilities
to chop the zip to 1.44MB chunks. Transfer the chunks via floppies.
And join (usually come with the splitting util) the chucks back to
a zip file.

If more than 50 MB, consider borrowing a Zip drive from your friend.
Or, simply unplug the hard drive from the source PC, and hook it up to
your destination PC.

cljlk

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Apr 1, 2001, 5:34:51 AM4/1/01
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Thanks for your help.
I am new in this. Please help.
If I choose the network, should I just use regular cable, like the one I am
using for cable modem, to connect between my desktop and laptop.
Thanks

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Steve Barker

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Apr 1, 2001, 9:17:53 AM4/1/01
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No, you'll need a crossover cable if not using a hub.

s


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Steve Barker

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Mason Ip <mas...@attachmate.co_> wrote in message
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> cljlk wrote...
>
> >I have Notebook with Windows 2000 operating system and Desktop with
> >Windows NT4.0. I have to to transfer some of files from Notebook to
Desktop.
> >Would anyone tell me how to transfer? I don't have CD wirter to do that.
> >Could I transfer from Notebook to Desktop directly?
>
> If you have less than 50 MB files to transfer, the simplest way
> is to use the floppy drive.
> Zip up the stuff on the source PC, use some file splitiing utilities
> to chop the zip to 1.44MB chunks.


PKZIP and Winzip will do this without third party software.

>Transfer the chunks via floppies.
> And join (usually come with the splitting util) the chucks back to
> a zip file.
>
> If more than 50 MB, consider borrowing a Zip drive from your friend.
> Or, simply unplug the hard drive from the source PC, and hook it up to
> your destination PC.
>

Be kinda hard to put a laptop HD in a desktop wouldn't it? Read the
original question before replying.


cljlk

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Apr 1, 2001, 1:43:21 PM4/1/01
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Could I get from computer accessaries store, just tell the store
crossover cable?
What is hub, could I get from store also?

Thanks.

In article <5UFx6.19812$4P4.1...@typhoon.kc.rr.com>,
stevebark...@kc.rr.com says...

Chiz1206

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Apr 1, 2001, 5:54:46 PM4/1/01
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Try a place like CompUSA. But you may not be able to find the crossover
(some places don't sell them).

Oh, and on the note of the Zip drives, you can use those. But it's a pain
to install especially if you're using multiple OSes and this is the only
application you'd need for it. The network offers a wider variety of
options, like file/printer sharing and internet connection sharing for later
if you need it.

-chiz


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Mason Ip

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Apr 1, 2001, 4:53:19 PM4/1/01
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Steve Barker wrote...

>PKZIP and Winzip will do this without third party software.

I may be missing something. I am using WinZip 7 and I can't see such
option to split a zip file to 1.44MB chucks. Remember a zip file can
be 5MB containing a single file larger than 5MB in oroginal size.
Zipsplit can split a zip file containing many sub-1.44MB files.
But it won't help if a zip file containing one or more files with size
bigger than 1.44MB -- zipsplit won't chop a file into mutiple peieces.


>Be kinda hard to put a laptop HD in a desktop wouldn't it? Read the
>original question before replying.

What make you think I didn't read the original question before replying?
Just because you think it is "hard" does not rule it out as a possible
solution.

Mason Ip

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Apr 1, 2001, 4:56:11 PM4/1/01
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Steve Barker wrote...

>PKZIP and Winzip will do this without third party software.

I may be missing something. I am using WinZip 7 and I can't see such


option to split a zip file to 1.44MB chucks. Remember a zip file can
be 5MB containing a single file larger than 5MB in oroginal size.
Zipsplit can split a zip file containing many sub-1.44MB files.
But it won't help if a zip file containing one or more files with size

bigger than 1.44MB -- zipsplit won't chop a big file (within a zip) into
mutiple pieces.


>Be kinda hard to put a laptop HD in a desktop wouldn't it? Read the
>original question before replying.

What make you think I didn't read the original question before replying?

David Norris

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Apr 1, 2001, 5:19:30 PM4/1/01
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 20:53:19 GMT, mas...@attachmate.co_ (Mason Ip)
wrote:

>Steve Barker wrote...
>
>>PKZIP and Winzip will do this without third party software.
>
>I may be missing something. I am using WinZip 7 and I can't see such
>option to split a zip file to 1.44MB chucks. Remember a zip file can
>be 5MB containing a single file larger than 5MB in oroginal size.
>Zipsplit can split a zip file containing many sub-1.44MB files.
>But it won't help if a zip file containing one or more files with size
>bigger than 1.44MB -- zipsplit won't chop a file into mutiple peieces.
>

from the help file...
"WinZip® makes it easy to create Zip files that “span” multiple disks.
This is useful if the files you are working with will not fit on one
disk.

To make a Zip file that spans multiple disks, simply create a Zip file
on a removable disk, then add files to the Zip as you normally would.
If the disk fills during Add operation, you will be prompted for
another disk. Simply insert the next disk and click the OK button.
Important: disk spanning is not available when adding files to an
existing archive; it is only available while creating a new archive.
Also note that you cannot add or remove files from a Zip file that
spans disks. WinZip requires pre-formatted disks (you can format
disks using My Computer or Windows Explorer).

Example:
To zip the files in your c:\data folder to a Zip file called
A:\DATA.ZIP:

1. Start WinZip.
2. Drag and drop the c:\data folder from My Computer or Windows
Explorer to the WinZip window.
3. In the Add dialog box, type the filename of the Zip file
(A:\DATA.ZIP).
4. Click the Add button.

If more than one disk is needed, you will be prompted for additional
disks."


>
>>Be kinda hard to put a laptop HD in a desktop wouldn't it? Read the
>>original question before replying.
>
>What make you think I didn't read the original question before replying?
>Just because you think it is "hard" does not rule it out as a possible
>solution.

Dave Norris
Lucasville, OH

John van Poelgeest

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Apr 1, 2001, 5:33:31 PM4/1/01
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> Be kinda hard to put a laptop HD in a desktop wouldn't it? Read the
> original question before replying.
>
Why is this hard? Just get a conversionset for USD10,00 to convert from IDE
to the 2,5" harddiskinterface, and of you go.


John

cljlk

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Apr 1, 2001, 5:53:47 PM4/1/01
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Thanks.

In article <9a7tjb$ioi$1...@news-int.gatech.edu>, chiz...@cc.gatech.edu says...

Mason Ip

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Apr 1, 2001, 7:37:16 PM4/1/01
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David Norris wrote...

>from the help file...
>"WinZip® makes it easy to create Zip files that “span” multiple disks.
>This is useful if the files you are working with will not fit on one
>disk.

Thanks, I tried it and it worked.
I'm sort of a guy who don't usualy read help files :)

Mason Ip

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Apr 1, 2001, 7:39:50 PM4/1/01
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Mason Ip wrote...

>
>Steve Barker wrote...
>
>>PKZIP and Winzip will do this without third party software.
>
>I may be missing something.

Yes, I'm missing something. David Norris pointed it out how to
do it and it works, at least on Winzip.

Would be good if anyone can point out how to do it with PKZIP.
Haven't use PKZIP for ages.

Chiz1206

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Apr 2, 2001, 3:21:59 AM4/2/01
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Why would you want to ZIP more than maybe 5 disks of data onto floppies?
That's insane with how easy it is to just network two machines or laplink
them or DCC or something.

-chiz


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Roger Hamlett

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>
> There are a few options:
> IF both computers use FAT file systems instead of NTFS,
> you can use a simple serial cable and software such as
> LapLink.
> If you really want to exercise your networking skills
> (and pull most of your hair out!!!) you can arrange a
> Direct Cable Connection (DCC). It requires a serial
> cable that you may have to make for yourself, plus
> jumping through many hoops, to set up correctly.
> By far the simplest way, and most useful for the
> future, is to obtain a couple of network cards and a
> crossover cable, and set up TCP/IP networking between
> the machines.
The file system, does _not_ come into the equation. For transfers between
OS's using any network (which in it's simplest form, LapLink is), the
_local_ OS, is doing the file system reads/writes at each end of the
cable. What is transferred is the data alone, with the addition of
checksums, and control markers. This is why a network can have machines
using (say) NT4, W2K, W9x, Unix etc., all mixed together. Provided they
all understand the protocols used in the transfers, any file-system can be
used.

> > I have Notebook with Windows 2000 operating system and Desktop with
> > Windows NT4.0. I have to to transfer some of files from Notebook to
Desktop.
> > Would anyone tell me how to transfer? I don't have CD wirter to do
that.
> > Could I transfer from Notebook to Desktop directly?

Lots of different ways.
1) RAS, supports serial 'direct cable connection'. Slow, but will move the
data. Requires a simple serial 'cross over' cable.
2) Applications like LapLink, can do this, and add support for using a
parallel cable, with much increased speed.
3) Add network cards at both ends.
4) If this is only a 'one shot', use a compression program (zip etc.), and
transfer with floppies.

The 'network card' approach, is one of the best, and has the advantage
that you then have the ability to link the machines again in the future,
easily.

Best Wishes


Mason Ip

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Apr 2, 2001, 12:36:06 PM4/2/01
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Chiz1206 wrote...

>Why would you want to ZIP more than maybe 5 disks of data onto floppies?
>That's insane with how easy it is to just network two machines or laplink
>them or DCC or something.

I don't want more than 5 floppies either.
But if you are burning mid-night oil and you don't have a cable
around, it would save you some frustration. And you can even transfer
unlimited amount of filles with just 2 floppies swapping around two PC.

Steve Barker

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Apr 2, 2001, 12:47:51 PM4/2/01
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Just create the new archive on the floppy (A:) Winzip does the rest. No
matter the original file size.


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James Buss

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It's called "spanning" in WinZip. Older versions required you to have PKZip
installed on your computer, and you had to tell WinZip where to find PKZip.exe
I don't know if that is still a requirement to make spanning work.

ren...@my-deja.com

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Tom Beer

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Apr 4, 2001, 10:51:55 PM4/4/01
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From the help file from Winzip v6.3:

WinZip makes it easy to create Zip files that "span" multiple disks. This
is useful if the files you are working with will not fit on one disk.

To make a Zip file that spans multiple disks, simply create a Zip file on a


removable disk, then add files to the Zip as you normally would. If the
disk fills during Add operation, you will be prompted for another disk.
Simply insert the next disk and click the OK button.

Important: disk spanning is not available when adding files to an existing
archive; it is only available while creating a new archive. Also note that
you cannot add or remove files from a Zip file that spans disks. WinZip

requires pre-formatted disks (you can format disks using the Windows
Explorer or File Manager)

Example:

To zip the files in your c:\data folder to a Zip file called A:\DATA.ZIP:

1) Start WinZip
2) Drag and drop the c:\data folder from the Explorer or File Manager to the
WinZip window
3) In the Drop dialog box, type the filename of the Zip file (A:\DATA.ZIP)
4) Click the Add button

If more than one disk is needed, you will be prompted for additional disks.

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Al Dubovick

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Sorry this reply to your reply is so late.

Apparently you think that you can use either a cross-over cable or a hub...

Use a 'crossover' cable if you are are connecting only 2 computers together.

Use a hub if you wish to connect more than 2 computers together. In that case,
you need at least 3 'regular' cables.

You can also use a hub for 2 computers to share a printer. In that case the
printer must have a built-in network card.

However, a hub isn't necessary for printer sharing. You can connect a printer to
the parallel port of PC-1 and PC-2 can also use that printer so long as PC-1 is
booted up.

DR

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Apr 8, 2001, 6:24:45 PM4/8/01
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With PKZIP, use the following command to back up an entire C:\ drive to
diskettes:

pkzip -rP& a:move.zip c:\*.*

To restore it, use

pkunzip -d a:move.zip

The switches -rP& say "recursively, store path info, and span diskettes" --
while the -d option says to "restore into original directory location,
create where necessary".

I'm certain Winzip does the same thing although I haven't tried it that I
can remember...


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