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Koichiro Seto

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Dec 13, 1994, 6:28:00 PM12/13/94
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Hi.

Does anyone know if there is RIP daemon (RouteD) for NT?
I want make a NT3.5 machine a router for TCP/IP network.

Regards,
Koichiro Seto
se...@rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp

Jacob Oshins

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Dec 14, 1994, 7:32:56 PM12/14/94
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Hi.

Regards,
Koichiro Seto
se...@rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp


Yes. It's built in.

Jake

Thomas Talley

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Dec 15, 1994, 3:31:03 AM12/15/94
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In article <3clam0$j...@show.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp>
se...@rop2srv.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp "Koichiro Seto" writes:

> Does anyone know if there is RIP daemon (RouteD) for NT?
> I want make a NT3.5 machine a router for TCP/IP network.

Better yet, how about GateD, so that RIP, EGP, BGP, etc are
all supported???

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Koichiro Seto

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Dec 19, 1994, 12:06:19 AM12/19/94
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Jake,

Thanks for the reply.

In article <OSHINS.94D...@saul5.u.washington.edu>, osh...@saul5.u.washington.edu (Jacob Oshins) says:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is RIP daemon (RouteD) for NT?
>> I want make a NT3.5 machine a router for TCP/IP network.
>

>Yes. It's built in.
>
>Jake

Are you really sure about this?
My setup-guide document which came with NT3.5 Workstation says it doesn't.
I see no RIP frame broadcast from NT when I use its build-in TCP/IP with
a single network interface.

Regards,
Koichiro Seto
se...@rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp

Koichiro Seto

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Dec 19, 1994, 12:10:37 AM12/19/94
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In article <787480...@ka9qpg.demon.co.uk>, tal...@ka9qpg.demon.co.uk (Thomas Talley) says:
>> Does anyone know if there is RIP daemon (RouteD) for NT?
>> I want make a NT3.5 machine a router for TCP/IP network.
>
>Better yet, how about GateD, so that RIP, EGP, BGP, etc are
>all supported???

Sure, that will be much better. ;-)
But I am not sure if Cornell guys would like to implement it on NT.
It's a huge piece of software.

Koichiro Seto
se...@rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp

Craig Baltzer

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Dec 20, 1994, 12:33:45 AM12/20/94
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> Hi.

> Regards,
> Koichiro Seto
> se...@rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp

Well, sort of. The router part is built in, but it doesn't support any routing
information protocol such as RIP, OSPF, etc. so everything has to be done with
static routes...


>Jake


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Neil Wilson

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Dec 20, 1994, 3:49:49 AM12/20/94
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Koichiro Seto (se...@rop2srv.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp) wrote:
: Are you really sure about this?

: My setup-guide document which came with NT3.5 Workstation says it doesn't.
: I see no RIP frame broadcast from NT when I use its build-in TCP/IP with
: a single network interface.

You won't. NT only broadcasts RIP if you have two interface cards (in other
words NT is the router) AND you've turned on IP routing in the TCP/IP,Advanced
dialog. May only work on the server.

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Thomas F Lee

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Dec 22, 1994, 7:53:50 PM12/22/94
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In article <OSHINS.94D...@saul5.u.washington.edu>

osh...@saul5.u.washington.edu "Jacob Oshins" writes:
> In article <3clam0$j...@show.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp>
> se...@rop2srv.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp (Koichiro Seto) writes:
>
> Hi.
>
> Does anyone know if there is RIP daemon (RouteD) for NT?
> I want make a NT3.5 machine a router for TCP/IP network.
>
> Yes. It's built in.
>
> Jake

AIUI, NT supports only static routing - ie no RIP daemon.

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Clayton E. Donley

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Dec 23, 1994, 11:55:55 AM12/23/94
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: > In article <3clam0$j...@show.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp>

: > se...@rop2srv.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp (Koichiro Seto) writes:
: >
: > Hi.
: >
: > Does anyone know if there is RIP daemon (RouteD) for NT?
: > I want make a NT3.5 machine a router for TCP/IP network.
: >
: > Yes. It's built in.
: >
: > Jake

Wrong. Not built in. I just tried to do this yesterday (thinking I had
read somewhere that 3.5 supports RIP). I now need to install a REAL OS
over NT (something Unix based) in order to do this. Does anyone know of
any product that that would run under NT3.5 that would support RIP (Free
or Commercial) so that I can keep NT installed?

I've got 3 machines at home that I want using the NT box to forward packets
over my ISDN link. I can see the lights go on on the ISDN box when I send
packets, but since NT won't broadcast routing information, the Cisco at the
other end doesn't know to send packets the other way, so it's useless.

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Craig Baltzer

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Dec 28, 1994, 5:59:07 PM12/28/94
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>: > In article <3clam0$j...@show.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp>
>: > se...@rop2srv.rop2.hitachi-cable.co.jp (Koichiro Seto) writes:
>: >
>: > Hi.
>: >
>: > Does anyone know if there is RIP daemon (RouteD) for NT?
>: > I want make a NT3.5 machine a router for TCP/IP network.
>: >
>: > Yes. It's built in.
>: >
>: > Jake

>Wrong. Not built in. I just tried to do this yesterday (thinking I had
>read somewhere that 3.5 supports RIP). I now need to install a REAL OS
>over NT (something Unix based) in order to do this. Does anyone know of
>any product that that would run under NT3.5 that would support RIP (Free
>or Commercial) so that I can keep NT installed?

>I've got 3 machines at home that I want using the NT box to forward packets
>over my ISDN link. I can see the lights go on on the ISDN box when I send
>packets, but since NT won't broadcast routing information, the Cisco at the
>other end doesn't know to send packets the other way, so it's useless.

Why not have your Cisco guys setup a static route on the router for your home
net. Thats what we've done here for the "small, home networks"...

> --Clayton
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>Email: don...@cig.mot.com | 1501 W. Shure Drive, S349
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Jim Towler

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Dec 31, 1994, 3:12:56 AM12/31/94
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For information, let me tell you all what I have been working on
over the last 2 days.

Here at home (Wellington, New Zealand), I have MS-Windows
NT 3.5 Workstation on a small ethernet LAN along with 2 other PCs
running Windows-for-Workgroups 3.11. One belongs to my flatmate
("room mate" is the USA I think is the word ?) and I own the
NT and other WFW - before you all think I'm a PC junkie.

Anyway, the NT system, on a 486 PC has a 14,400 modem that can call
a local service provider that supports PPP and SLIP. Their system
is a SUN Sparc running SunOS 4.1.3 so uses the RIP protocol for
routing table management.

We (myself and their sysops) looked into adding entries in
/etc/gateways on the SUN but it tried to route via their LAN
rather than out the PPP interface. Next, we looked into adding
some code to pppd to do a "route add" after I connected.
There were problems with that option ...

So, I have spent the last two days reading RFC1058 which documents
the RIP protocol as used by in.routed on SunOS and other UNIXs.

Present status as of 2 hours ago, I have a "console mode" NT program
that listens for incomming RIP route packets on UDP port 520,
and in response, sends back a packet to route back to the
NT and 2 WFW machines here. (sure, the NT route is not required
but is good for testing)

End result: From the other PCs I can telnet, ftp, ping etc
and the packets route via the PPP link on Windows NT and all
is fine. I will also need a program to remotely request the
RASDIAL command to raise and lower the PPP link, but that
comes later ...

The program works fine so far but is very raw. I need to tidy it
up and make it an NT service, add logging perhaps, and something
in the registry for config addresses etc.

Please E-Mail if people are interested, or want to help complete
this project.

I am "tow...@actrix.gen.nz".

Regards,

Jim Towler
Wellington
New Zealand (check a map sometime :-)

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