Mouse problem
Derm
sometimes at certain horizontal or vertical positions and has to be
picked up and shaken. It acts like a mouse that's got gunk on the
rollers, except that I scraped all the gunk off the rollers yesterday
and it's still doing it. Normally, a mouse works decently for weeks
before needing de-gunking again.
So, if it's not gunk, what the hell is it and how do I fix it?
Todd H.
Could be plain ole irrepairable gunk. A hardware problem is the most
likely cause here--very little in the OS that could cause this if
picking up and shaking fixes it.
Toss $15 or less at a new mouse, selecting an optical one (no roller
to gunk) and odds are your problems will disappear.
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
Derm
kept scrolling stuff by itself.
And optical mice are terrible for gaming from what I've heard anyway.
StYx
> And optical mice are terrible for gaming from what I've heard anyway.
in contrary. that's just the second big advantage of
optical mouse (besides there's no roller to "gunk" (funny
word, never heard of it, well i'm not american, that's
probably why :) ) ), is it's precision. even a 20$ MS basic
optical mouse is WAY better than a roller mouse. imagine
what it will do if you buy a 50$ logitec gaming mouse.
besides: the fact that ALL decent gaming mouses at the
moment are optical means something, right :) ? have a look
at the logitec website and judge for yourself.
with all do respect, but the person who told you that an
optical mouse is terrible for gaming, man, dunno what kind
of games he's playing :) .
Derm
> But the main issue for gamers is the sampling rate. At 50Hz, the sampling rate just
> isn't fast enough to work with the high frame rate of most modern 3D games,
> particularly if you have a fast PC and 3D card. So gamers have stuck with tethered
> mice, with all their annoyances.
(For some reason I can't find the link from the summary quoted above to
the rest of the article on the page? But Google seems to have found and
excerpted from the full article. And it includes in its excerpt the
phrase "This mouse was simply terrible." ...)
So there you have the verdict: optical mouse -- sampling rate --
terrible. Besides, the resolution is poor, like 640x480 last I checked.
That isn't even half a decent desktop resolution!
And why the fuck must google groups reformat your quoting randomly? It
kept inserting the > at the end of the previous line instead of where I
typed it, at the start of a line ... hitting enter at the end of every
line and deleting extraneous spaces fixed that but as soon as I added
more to the article it suddenly broke up two of the lines and moved
some words onto lines by themselves ... do the people who designed this
thing even know how you traditionally quote and edit on usenet? No word
wrap -- no spontaneous rewrapping with fewer columns -- etc. Bah.
StYx
>
date of the article: October 11, 2002 . say no more :) .
>> But the main issue for gamers is the sampling rate. At 50Hz, the sampling rate just
>> isn't fast enough to work with the high frame rate of most modern 3D games,
>> particularly if you have a fast PC and 3D card. So gamers have stuck with tethered
>> mice, with all their annoyances.
>
> So there you have the verdict: optical mouse -- sampling rate --
> terrible. Besides, the resolution is poor, like 640x480 last I checked.
> That isn't even half a decent desktop resolution!
:) , i was talking about "optical mouses", not "cordless
optical mouses". i never used the word optical :) (hate it
myself :) ).
check these out (if you really want to perform high-end
gaming :) ):
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/productlist/BE/EN,crid=2463,categoryid=491
> And why the fuck must google groups reformat your quoting
randomly? It
> kept inserting the > at the end of the previous line
instead of where I
> typed it, at the start of a line ... hitting enter at the
end of every
> line and deleting extraneous spaces fixed that but as
soon as I added
> more to the article it suddenly broke up two of the lines
and moved
> some words onto lines by themselves ... do the people who
designed this
> thing even know how you traditionally quote and edit on
usenet? No word
> wrap -- no spontaneous rewrapping with fewer columns --
etc. Bah.
>
lol :)
Todd H.
> It IS a brand-new mouse. The old one's scroll wheel was b0rked and it
> kept scrolling stuff by itself.
There is always teh possibility that a brand new mouse could be
defective. However, given that you had problems with your old mouse
as well, there could be something borked in the motherboard be. Is
this a ps/2 or usb mouse? If th elatter, try a different usb port.
IF it's ps/2 try a usb mouse next to get around a potential ps/2 port
electrical issue. If all mice in all different interfaces do this
goofiness, I'd try them on another windows computer before suspecting
anything wrong in the OS.
> And optical mice are terrible for gaming from what I've heard
> anyway.
They do come in different resolutions...all of which are superior to
rollerball mice in my experience. But if yer committed to a roller,
far be it from me to stop ya.
Todd H.
> > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,624071,00.asp
> >
>
> date of the article: October 11, 2002 . say no more :) .
Or more like "Email of the original poster is twist...@gmail.com -
say no more." :-)
The usual thread of his goes like this.
"I'd like some help on problem X."
Okay, Here's a probable solution to the stated problem.
"No that's wrong. Let me now add constraint Y to the problem to prove
why your answer is unacceptable to me."
At that point, I typically take an "Oh well. You get what you pay
for. You seem committed to your own misery then." approach to him,
and go on about my day.
Best Regards,
StYx
dude, i love u. ok, sounds kinda gay, but you know what i
mean :) . i get that feeling all the time, and now i'm
going to copy your answer so i can re-use it in the future
(wíth credits of course :) ). i got some other threads just
like this one.
John of Aix
Might have nothing to do with it but I'll tell you anyway...
A couple of years ago I had a mouse that would block in this way for no
apparent reason. I finally realised that it was always about the same
time in the morning and, from there, at the time when the sun shone
directly through the window and *on to the mouse*. The light was so
strong that the diodes' signals to the captor were being wiped out by
the light and never got there.
As your mouse is new I doubt if will be the obvious sort of fault,
pilots and stuff. There are all sorts of funny ones so keep looking.
Wireless mouses don't like patterned mouse mats for instance, that's one
that has caught a few of my acquantances.
John of Aix
>> And optical mice are terrible for gaming from what I've heard anyway.
>
> in contrary. that's just the second big advantage of
> optical mouse (besides there's no roller to "gunk" (funny
> word, never heard of it, well i'm not american, that's
> probably why :) ) ),
Goodness. I'm extremely surprised you don't now this word. I'm English
and rather anti-US but nevertheless learnt it in the sixties I think.
Just an aside. Carry on.
StYx
i'm dutch btw, and well: 19yo :) . one learns every day ... :)
Derm
Also, high end optical mice are expensive.
Derm
light sources! :)
Todd H.
> Another downside of optical mice then -- possible interference from
> light sources! :)
Let's call this "constraint Y"
Todd H.
> It's a ps/2 mouse and it is connected to a different computer. :P
>
> Also, high end optical mice are expensive.
And let's call this constraint "Z"
The solution to your mouse problem is a new computer.