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meirman

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Mar 20, 2002, 4:33:16 AM3/20/02
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Reposted because my clock was sent to 1980. I don't use this computer
much. :)


When it rains it pours.


I don't think I did anything to any file related to win3.1, but now
when I click on the Trumpet ( Winsock ) program, I get the mesage,
Modem is not reponding.

I get the same thing with QuickLink II, QuickLink Gold, Bitcomm, and
SmartComm, and the Delrina Test program says Com2 and Com3 have no
modem or are not responding. The modem is on Com2.

OTOH, in DOS I have no problem dialing with QuickLink II for DOS.
(although I think my club's bulletin board changed it's number a few
years ago. The guy who answered knew nothing about it.)

I don't recall that these dialers really had to be installed, but I
reinstalled Trumpet anyhow. No change. (Other than putting dll's
in the right place, does Installl do anything? Forget that. I really
need help with the problem more.)


Win98 won't even start these days, so I installed AGent to the Tandy
486, and it's working pretty well for 8Meg of Ram. (Had to unload
one or more autoexec programs to install Agent.)

meirman

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Mar 20, 2002, 9:21:39 AM3/20/02
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:33:16 GMT, mei...@invalid.com (meirman) wrote:

>
>Reposted because my clock was sent to 1980. I don't use this computer
>much. :)
>
>
>
>
>When it rains it pours.
>
>
>I don't think I did anything to any file related to win3.1, but now
>when I click on the Trumpet ( Winsock ) program, I get the mesage,
>Modem is not reponding.

Further investigation showed that it gives this message after the
first time something is sent to the modem . 'ATZ", I think it is
sending (reset).

I never get a dial tone.

Bill Marcum

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Mar 20, 2002, 11:45:07 AM3/20/02
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meirman wrote in message <3c98573e...@news.erols.com>...

>
>Reposted because my clock was sent to 1980. I don't use this computer
>much. :)
>
>
>
>
>When it rains it pours.
>
>
>I don't think I did anything to any file related to win3.1, but now
>when I click on the Trumpet ( Winsock ) program, I get the mesage,
>Modem is not reponding.
>
>I get the same thing with QuickLink II, QuickLink Gold, Bitcomm, and
>SmartComm, and the Delrina Test program says Com2 and Com3 have no
>modem or are not responding. The modem is on Com2.
>
>OTOH, in DOS I have no problem dialing with QuickLink II for DOS.
>(although I think my club's bulletin board changed it's number a few
>years ago. The guy who answered knew nothing about it.)
>
Can you dial with Windows Terminal? Check the Control Panel: Ports settings
for com2.


meirman

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Mar 21, 2002, 4:09:42 AM3/21/02
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:45:07 -0500, "Bill Marcum" <bma...@iglou.com>
wrote:

>
>meirman wrote in message <3c98573e...@news.erols.com>...
>>

>>I don't think I did anything to any file related to win3.1, but now
>>when I click on the Trumpet ( Winsock ) program, I get the mesage,

>>Modem is not reponding. [No dial tone at all]


>>
>>I get the same thing with QuickLink II, QuickLink Gold, Bitcomm, and
>>SmartComm, and the Delrina Test program says Com2 and Com3 have no
>>modem or are not responding. The modem is on Com2.
>>
>>OTOH, in DOS I have no problem dialing with QuickLink II for DOS.
>>(although I think my club's bulletin board changed it's number a few
>>years ago. The guy who answered knew nothing about it.)
>>
>Can you dial with Windows Terminal?

No. I hadn't tried that before you suggested it. I hadn't used it
before. I set it to com2, which is what my modem is jumpered to, and
enter a number, and click on dial, but nothing happens except the
countdown timer starts at 30 and runs down.

I don't think it would let me set it to anything other than com2.

> Check the Control Panel: Ports settings
>for com2.

It has IRq3 and 02F8, which I believe is what it has always had.

fwiw com3 has irq4 and 03E8, but at least some programs complain even
more quickly when I have them set to com3.
>
>
>

meirman

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Mar 22, 2002, 12:30:09 PM3/22/02
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:45:07 -0500, "Bill Marcum" <bma...@iglou.com>
wrote:

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>meirman wrote in message <3c98573e...@news.erols.com>...
>>

>>Modem is not reponding in wfgw3.11


>>
>>I get the same thing with QuickLink II, QuickLink Gold, Bitcomm, and
>>SmartComm, and the Delrina Test program says Com2 and Com3 have no
>>modem or are not responding. The modem is on Com2.
>>
>>OTOH, in DOS I have no problem dialing with QuickLink II for DOS.
>>(although I think my club's bulletin board changed it's number a few
>>years ago. The guy who answered knew nothing about it.)
>>
>Can you dial with Windows Terminal? Check the Control Panel: Ports settings
>for com2.

As I said, no.

I replaced the modem last night with the 33.6 modem I used to use and
by golly I got a dialtone. I had thought about this but the fact
that it worked in dos dissuaded me from thinking this was it.

It hadn't been lightening and I thought maybe I had done something in
the other partition for win98 that somehow fouled up the software in
win3.1. It seems like more than a coincidence that the greatest
problem I've ever had in win98, can only boot in Safe mode, came at
the same time as the modem stopped working.

In 3.1, I can negotiate most of the way with the ISP, but I still
can't connect on the good computer. I think I had used this same
modem before with this software, Trumpet, but maybe not.

I'll get back to you.

meirman

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Mar 22, 2002, 4:59:19 PM3/22/02
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In comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x on Fri, 22 Mar 2002
17:30:09 GMT mei...@invalid.com (meirman) posted:


>As I said, no.
>
>I replaced the modem last night with the 33.6 modem I used to use and
>by golly I got a dialtone. I had thought about this but the fact
>that it worked in dos dissuaded me from thinking this was it.

Couldn't use my old modem last night. Apparently the init string must
contain %C0 . That's what it had at a website. I don't recall using
those letters before, but it works now!

>In 3.1, I can negotiate most of the way with the ISP, but I still
>can't connect on the good computer. I think I had used this same
>modem before with this software, Trumpet, but maybe not.
>
>I'll get back to you.

This encourages me to buy that v92 PCI internal controllerbased modem
I wanted. Maybe I'll wait to the first hamfest and see what they
have.

Thanks, Bill.

mei...@QQQerols.com If you email me, please let me know whether
remove the QQQ or not you are posting the same letter.

ivorycruncher

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Mar 23, 2002, 12:55:07 AM3/23/02
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Keep in mind that to take advantage of the V.92 modem standard (as opposed
to V.90), your ISP has to have V.92 support. The standard has only recently
taken off so I'm guessing most ISPs don't support it yet. The advantages
are being able to connect in half the time it took with V.90 and being able
to put your Internet connection on hold while talking to someone
(call-waiting for the Internet). Then again it doesn't hurt to be prepared
for when your ISP does upgrade. ;)


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meirman

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Mar 23, 2002, 8:59:08 PM3/23/02
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In comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x on Fri, 22 Mar 2002
16:59:19 -0500 meirman <mei...@invalid.com> posted:

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>In comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x on Fri, 22 Mar 2002
>17:30:09 GMT mei...@invalid.com (meirman) posted:
>
>>

>>I replaced the modem last night with the 33.6 modem I used to use and
>>by golly I got a dialtone. I had thought about this but the fact
>>that it worked in dos dissuaded me from thinking this was it.
>
>Couldn't use my old modem last night. Apparently the init string must
>contain %C0 .

Should have said that this is a Quicktel by Logicode. They seem to be
out of business, not even bought by someone else. Maybe that means no
more %C0. :)

meirman

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Mar 23, 2002, 9:19:27 PM3/23/02
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In comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities.win3x on Fri, 22 Mar 2002
23:55:07 -0600 "ivorycruncher" <ivoryc...@oohay.com> posted:

>Keep in mind that to take advantage of the V.92 modem standard (as opposed
>to V.90), your ISP has to have V.92 support. The standard has only recently
>taken off so I'm guessing most ISPs don't support it yet. The advantages
>are being able to connect in half the time it took with V.90 and being able
>to put your Internet connection on hold while talking to someone
>(call-waiting for the Internet). Then again it doesn't hurt to be prepared
>for when your ISP does upgrade. ;)

I have been following this with them. They barely communicate with
their poor subscribers. The help desk rarely knows an answer to a
question about something like this, and according to one of them 12
months ago, they had v.92 then! But one of them did say when asked
recently on a local newsgroup that they had phone lines in Maryland
and DC that were v.92 only.

The 6 or 8 phone numberss in Md. turned out to be in the DC suburbs,
and I have to admit that makes sense. But if they put them in there, I
figure they will put them in here. It's only 25 miles, I think.

They're really pitiful. RCN is now the same company, it owns Erols,
but www.rcn.com actually gives some information. Www.erols.com
doesn't even say what you get with a subscription. (RCN says it
includes a second userid and 10 megs of webspace. That's true for
Erols too, but they don't say so.) It does point one to the RCN site
to download the "RCN handbook", but only after downloading a big pdf
file does one learn it is only about RCN telephone and cable tv
service! They have no handbook for me. :)

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