COFFEE: The next generation of computing starts today!
bren...@richmond.infi.net
named Jason. I'd give full credit to him - name, email, etc. - but I
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REDMOND, Wash.: In a public press conference, top officials at Microsoft,
Inc. announced they are releasing a new test beta of Windows 95. Build
1024, code named "Microsoft Coffee", will be available in mid-July,
officials said.
"Microsoft is, and always has been, dedicated to producing high-quality,
value driven software," a spokesman for Microsoft was quoted as saying.
"This addition to Windows 95 will firmly establish Windows as the
preferred Coffee Operating System for the Home User."
While previous versions of windows had limited coffee-making capability,
Windows Coffee extends this with added mug sizes, coffee scheduling, and
metric volumes for the European Market.
Microsoft officials said they will make more enhancements available on
the Micrsoft Network, and are planning an update to MS Coffee in
September called the "DecafPak."
Some Independent Coffee Vendors (ICVs), most notably Sanka and Maxwell
House, are protesting this recent move by Microsoft, claiming they are using
unfair competitive tactics to corner the market on coffee-oriented computer
applications.
"With MS Coffee available on Windows 95, the home user will not feel
compelled to try our product," said a spokesman for Maxwell House, which
was negotiating with Novell to introduce a Coffee distribution netowork on
many Novell Apps, including it's developing GroupWare applications.
The Justice Department is looking into these allegations, and giving it
"serious scrutiny," inside sources say.
Most analysts don't see MS Coffee as a problem. "Just about every Operating
Has a Coffee kernel," says Heidi Rath, author of _A Hacker's Guide to
CyberCoffee_. "And the truth is, Microsoft is way behind, technology wise,
in the Coffeeware industry."
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OS/2 USERS ANGERED BY APPARENT COFFEE BIAS
Many OS/2 Users have been angered and upset by the apparent media
silence concerning OS/2's extensive coffeemaking capabilities, Team
OS/2 users report.
Microsofts recent announcement of MS Coffee has only made matters
worse.
The situation has been exacerbated by an article in COFFEE SHOPPER
magazine, a trade magazine devoted to mail-order coffee and coffee
accessory purchases, which, according to OS/2 advocates, misrepresnted
OS/2's abilities in comparison with the MS Coffee build of Windows 95.
"We are very disappointed with the Coffee Shopper article," an IBM
spokeswoman said. "We feel they did not use accurate and truly
representative methods to arrive at their conclusions."
Some of the items at issue are:
Coffee Shopper tested OS/2 using the old Grounds Allocation
Filter (GAF) as opposed to IBMs newer, high-tech Grounds Performance
Filter System (GPFS) which makes actually grounding the coffee beans
faster and more efficient by altering the way the grounds are stored.
"This is truly unfortunate," said BrennanW, an OS/2 advocate who uses
the operating system at home to fulfil his multitasking coffee needs.
"The GPFS has greatly sped up my coffee intake. With it I can grind
the next batch of coffee while my current batch is percolating. You can't
even grind coffee beans in Windows 3.1, and in WIndows 95 you have to
be careful - if you're using a 16 bit coffee maker, you can lock up your
whole system."
Another complaint is that "OS/2 was tested right after installation. No
optimization at all. Everyone knows that OS/2 isn't optimized for coffee
right out of the box," Brennan continues. "The initial settings for the OS/2
Coffee apps don't use enough grounds. Your coffee is far, far too weak.
If you read the online documentation, you'll learn how to increase the grounds
used per pot by altering a line in your config.sys file."
And finally, "they didn't say ANYTHING about the high-end features of the
OS/2 coffee apps. OS/2 lets you not only grind your beans, but it can
make esspresso, mocha, and latte. Win95 doesn't do latte. Win95 only
does instant, and who wants instant. Why does Win95 even include
coffee grinding when it can only do instant?"
Microsoft was quick to respond to this charge. "The average home user
doesn't want latte on their system. The average home user wants an
operating system that is compatible with every legacy coffee maker in the
world today."
There seems to be some truth in this claim. "One of the reasons OS/2 has
had trouble breaking into the market is its incompatibility with some popular
coffemakers," says an analyst who requested not to be named. "Because
OS/2 can emulate the Windows 3.1 coffee environment, many ICVs
(Independent Coffee Vendors) refuse to write OS/2 coffee apps."
Some ICVs agree. "We do not write OS/2 coffee apps because there is no
market for them," says a spokesperson for Sanka. "There just aren't any
OS/2 users out there. And I wish they'd quit calling to complain!"
Paul R. Stratton
>[NOTE: This post was inspired by a previous post created by a genius
>named Jason. I'd give full credit to him - name, email, etc. - but I
>can't remember what it was and I can't find the posts.)
>
>REDMOND, Wash.: In a public press conference, top officials at Microsoft,
>Inc. announced they are releasing a new test beta of Windows 95. Build
>1024, code named "Microsoft Coffee", will be available in mid-July,
>officials said.
ROTFL. You really ought to have used used Warp. Let's see first we
get Warp Fullpack, then Warp for Windows users, Warp upgrade for OS/2 2.0
users. Seven months later we repeat the cycle for Warp Connected which
hasn't even reached the stores in Seattle yet. Alright someone tell me
its here.
And all of the OS/2 advocates are talking about the next version of Warp
this fall. With all these guys running out and buying every upgrade version
it's no wonder that IBM will give you all exactly what you ask for as they
take your $59, $69 bucks or whatever you will happily surrender every six
months. You'll catch on like the Borland C++ customers did after about
two years! You should have just bought NT its cheaper!
Now this is a really funny story.
Paul Stratton
stra...@seattleu.edu
ne...@basenet.net
>ROTFL. You really ought to have used used Warp. Let's see first we
>get Warp Fullpack, then Warp for Windows users, Warp upgrade for OS/2 2.0
>users. Seven months later we repeat the cycle for Warp Connected which
>hasn't even reached the stores in Seattle yet. Alright someone tell me
>its here.
>
>it's no wonder that IBM will give you all exactly what you ask for as they
>take your $59, $69 bucks or whatever you will happily surrender every six
>months. You'll catch on like the Borland C++ customers did after about
>two years! You should have just bought NT its cheaper!
>
>Now this is a really funny story.
What you fail to see, is that not every OS/2 user has a use for the various
versions of OS/2. Each is targeted to a certain user, who may not need the
other bells and whistles.
You have DOS/Windows, you'll want to buy either OS/2 Warp for Windows, or
the forthcoming OS/2 Warp Connect for Windows if you want to connect to LANs
workgroups, etc. YOU DON'T NEED BOTH
You have a brand new machine, or want to totally wipe DOS/Windows from
your machine, you buy OS/2 Warp with WinOS2 or OS/2 Warp Connect with
WinOS2. NOT BOTH.
You have OS/2 2.0-2.1 on your machine, you buy the upgrade versions of Warp
OS/2 with WinOS2. YOU DON'T NEED ANOTHER VERSION.
So get your facts straight, each is not an UPGRADE from the other, but the
same level with different options for different users.
gra...@innotts.co.uk
snip ....
>"We are very disappointed with the Coffee Shopper article," an IBM
>spokeswoman said. "We feel they did not use accurate and truly
>representative methods to arrive at their conclusions."
snip ....
They also conveniently forgot to mention that OS/2 had been making the tea
and toast at the time, OS/2's performance in the Darjeeling marketplace
far exceeds anything MS have at the moment ;-)
Paul R. Stratton
>In <3s6njp$o...@bach.seattleu.edu>, stra...@news.seattleu.edu (Paul R. Stratton) writes:
>> With all these guys running out and buying every upgrade version
>>it's no wonder that IBM will give you all exactly what you ask for as they
>>take your $59, $69 bucks or whatever you will happily surrender every six
>>months. You'll catch on like the Borland C++ customers did after about
>>two years! You should have just bought NT its cheaper!
>
>versions of OS/2. Each is targeted to a certain user, who may not need the
>other bells and whistles.
Definitely. I didn't that a single OS/2 user was going to buy each single
flavor at each level either as you seem to think. You're reading more
into it than there was.
[ Removed obvious statements about installing on new computers and upgrading
older systems ]
>So get your facts straight, each is not an UPGRADE from the other, but the
>same level with different options for different users.
But I didn't say that. You did. Please go back and read it again. Here
let me explain it again.
IBM is coming out with a new type of OS/2 every six or eight months. As
was seen in this group some of you OS/2 users bought the Warp upgrade
pack. I don't think anyone will disagree with that.
Now Warp Connected upgrade for Warp has come out. Some of you are buying that
too. Looks like an upgrade cycle to me. Let me guess there will be another
versino of Warp around the end of the year or early 96. And lots of you
will run out and buy that $59 or $69 upgrade. IBM is right on schedule
every six or eight months. Excuse me while I get the shears...
Paul Stratton
stra...@seattleu.edu
Lloyd Parsons
Stratton) writes:
:>
Actually, Paul, I think YOU misunderstand what the 'upgrade' is. It is no
more or less than a path for those that have Warp to get the additional
features of 'connect' without having to buy the whole package.
For instance, if you own OS/2 Warp, and use it at home or as a stand-alone,
only using dial-up internetworking, then there is no need or benefit to
getting this 'upgrade'. OTOH, if you are on a network, or need peer
services, this 'upgrade' allows you to get that ADDITIONAL part for less than
a full system.
Kind of like the MS WIN95 Plus CD, but of more value,of course! <grin>
// Lloyd Parsons, Herrin, IL
// lpar...@midwest.net
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Christopher Robato
: Paul Stratton
: stra...@seattleu.edu
So what are you trying to say?
You mentioned "some", and that is all there is to it. It's not a "lot"
or "all".
Not all OS/2ers upgrade every six to seven months. A lot stay with what
they're using when they are pretty satisfied with it.
Now how about all those Windows users out there with three to four copies
of Windows---every new copy for a new PC they upgraded to or for every
notebook they added to their repertoire.
And every one of those copies are not even an upgrade at all?
Rgds,
Chris
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Paul R. Stratton
Christopher Robato <cro...@kuentos.guam.net> wrote:
>Paul R. Stratton (stra...@news.seattleu.edu) wrote:
>: In article <3sh53r$3...@mail.one.net>, <ne...@basenet.net> wrote:
>: >In <3s6njp$o...@bach.seattleu.edu>, stra...@news.seattleu.edu (Paul R. Stratton) writes:
>
>Not all OS/2ers upgrade every six to seven months. A lot stay with what
>they're using when they are pretty satisfied with it.
Those OS/2 users are the ones that have caught onto IBMs little game. You've
just admitted those upgrades aren't worth the money IBM wants for them.
Maybe you have caught on. Congratulations!
>Now how about all those Windows users out there with three to four copies
>of Windows---every new copy for a new PC they upgraded to or for every
>notebook they added to their repertoire.
Just like they're should be. There should be a separate copy of Windows for
each computer. I've had three different copies of Windows at various times
that came with each of three different computers and went with each
computer when I resold it. What's your point?
Paul Stratton
stra...@seattleu.edu