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Eli the Bearded
Jan 14, 2018, 3:20:17 PM1/14/18
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New laptop, Asus W202 (suggested by Stef in
<p1pogc$m32$1...@gioia.aioe.org> of the topic "want to help me find a new
computer?" in linux.misc late last month). Installed Linux just fine,
once I changed the boot parameters in BIOS (F2 during start up). Not
quite as small as I would have liked, but small and cheap.
With a fresh install, the trackpad was registering only right and left
click buttons. This was Not Great, and so one of the first configuration
quests I needed to embark on here was Fix That.
The xinput tool identified the input device as "ELAN1201:00 04F3:3054
Touchpad". Nothing in /etc/X11 or /usr/share/X11 about Elan touchpads.
But some websearches later I found hints that it uses the synaptics driver:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ASUS_x205ta
Explicitly assigning the 'synaptics' driver to 'Elan Touchpad' in
xorg.conf provides even more functionality (e.g., two-finger tap to
right click, etc.)
Then from here I learned about the synclient config tool:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/748729/making-custom-synaptics-touchpad-config-persistent-not-working
I'm struggling to make my custom touchpad persistent.
I very well know the config I want. Here's the command, using
synclient:
synclient RightButtonAreaLeft=0 RightButtonAreaTop=0 \
ClickTime=20 AccelFactor=0.3 MaxSpeed=2.5 PalmDetect=1 \
VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizTwoFingerScroll=1 VertEdgeScroll=0 \
HorizEdgeScroll=0
And wow! Nifty! "synclient -l" lists all the settings and with some
experimentation I got middle click working with:
synclient TapButton3=2 RightButtonAreaLeft=1800 \
MiddleButtonAreaRight=1799 MiddleButtonAreaTop=1495 \
MiddleButtonAreaLeft=1400
I've added that to my .xinitrc, right after the xmodmap settings.
(TapButton3=2 I now suspect is not useful.)
I never knew about that tool and I wish I had. Where can I find full
documentation on synclient?
The docs in man are spartan. The docs here:
https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/synaptics.4.html
Don't incluse MiddleButton* directives. I found, quite by accident, that
the order of the settings for MiddleButtonArea* is significant. In the
wrong order, you just get error messages.
Elijah
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<p1pogc$m32$1...@gioia.aioe.org> of the topic "want to help me find a new
computer?" in linux.misc late last month). Installed Linux just fine,
once I changed the boot parameters in BIOS (F2 during start up). Not
quite as small as I would have liked, but small and cheap.
With a fresh install, the trackpad was registering only right and left
click buttons. This was Not Great, and so one of the first configuration
quests I needed to embark on here was Fix That.
The xinput tool identified the input device as "ELAN1201:00 04F3:3054
Touchpad". Nothing in /etc/X11 or /usr/share/X11 about Elan touchpads.
But some websearches later I found hints that it uses the synaptics driver:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ASUS_x205ta
Explicitly assigning the 'synaptics' driver to 'Elan Touchpad' in
xorg.conf provides even more functionality (e.g., two-finger tap to
right click, etc.)
Then from here I learned about the synclient config tool:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/748729/making-custom-synaptics-touchpad-config-persistent-not-working
I'm struggling to make my custom touchpad persistent.
I very well know the config I want. Here's the command, using
synclient:
synclient RightButtonAreaLeft=0 RightButtonAreaTop=0 \
ClickTime=20 AccelFactor=0.3 MaxSpeed=2.5 PalmDetect=1 \
VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizTwoFingerScroll=1 VertEdgeScroll=0 \
HorizEdgeScroll=0
And wow! Nifty! "synclient -l" lists all the settings and with some
experimentation I got middle click working with:
synclient TapButton3=2 RightButtonAreaLeft=1800 \
MiddleButtonAreaRight=1799 MiddleButtonAreaTop=1495 \
MiddleButtonAreaLeft=1400
I've added that to my .xinitrc, right after the xmodmap settings.
(TapButton3=2 I now suspect is not useful.)
I never knew about that tool and I wish I had. Where can I find full
documentation on synclient?
The docs in man are spartan. The docs here:
https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/synaptics.4.html
Don't incluse MiddleButton* directives. I found, quite by accident, that
the order of the settings for MiddleButtonArea* is significant. In the
wrong order, you just get error messages.
Elijah
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boots to command line and starts x manually
Peter "Shaggy" Haywood
Jan 23, 2018, 3:38:26 PM1/23/18
to
I apologise for the lateness of this followup! Since I see no other
responses to your query (which doesn't necessarily mean there haven't
been any, I know), I feel it is worth responding now.
Groovy hepcat Eli the Bearded was jivin' in comp.os.linux.misc on Mon,
15 Jan 2018 7:20 am. It's a cool scene! Dig it.
> Then from here I learned about the synclient config tool:
>
>
https://askubuntu.com/questions/748729/making-custom-synaptics-touchpad-config-persistent-not-working
>
> I'm struggling to make my custom touchpad persistent.
You need to open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make an "InputDevice" entry
for your touchpad. See below.
> I very well know the config I want. Here's the command, using
> synclient:
>
> synclient RightButtonAreaLeft=0 RightButtonAreaTop=0 \
> ClickTime=20 AccelFactor=0.3 MaxSpeed=2.5 PalmDetect=1 \
> VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizTwoFingerScroll=1 VertEdgeScroll=0
> \ HorizEdgeScroll=0
>
> And wow! Nifty! "synclient -l" lists all the settings and with some
> experimentation I got middle click working with:
>
> synclient TapButton3=2 RightButtonAreaLeft=1800 \
> MiddleButtonAreaRight=1799 MiddleButtonAreaTop=1495 \
> MiddleButtonAreaLeft=1400
You probably want something like this (untested):
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/by-path/<name of your device goes here>"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "ClickTime" "20"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.3"
Option "MaxSpeed" "2.5"
Option "PalmDetect" "1"
Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "1"
Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "1"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "0"
Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0"
Option "TapButton3" "2"
Option "RightButtonAreaLeft" "1800"
Option "RightButtonAreaTop" "0"
Option "MiddleButtonAreaLeft" "1799"
Option "MiddleButtonAreaTop" "1495"
Option "MiddleButtonAreaLeft" "1400"
EndSection
I prefer the following settings, though, on my Lenovo Ideapad S10e
(and similar settings on other laptops):
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/by-path/platform-i8042-serio-1-event-mouse"
Option "Protocol" "event"
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "TapButton2" "2"
Option "TapButton3" "3"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "1"
Option "PalmDetect" "0"
Option "SHMConfig" "true"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "yes"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
Option "RBCornerButton" "0"
Option "RTCornerButton" "2"
EndSection
> I've added that to my .xinitrc, right after the xmodmap settings.
> (TapButton3=2 I now suspect is not useful.)
>
> I never knew about that tool and I wish I had. Where can I find full
> documentation on synclient?
>
> The docs in man are spartan. The docs here:
>
> https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/synaptics.4.html
>
> Don't incluse MiddleButton* directives. I found, quite by accident,
Try man synaptics and man xorg.conf.
> that the order of the settings for MiddleButtonArea* is significant.
> In the wrong order, you just get error messages.
My synaptics man page doesn't even list those options. It lists
the "SoftButtonAreas" option:
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "RBL RBR RBT RBB MBL MBR MBT MBB"
I assume that is equivalent though I've never used either.
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responses to your query (which doesn't necessarily mean there haven't
been any, I know), I feel it is worth responding now.
Groovy hepcat Eli the Bearded was jivin' in comp.os.linux.misc on Mon,
15 Jan 2018 7:20 am. It's a cool scene! Dig it.
> Then from here I learned about the synclient config tool:
>
>
https://askubuntu.com/questions/748729/making-custom-synaptics-touchpad-config-persistent-not-working
>
> I'm struggling to make my custom touchpad persistent.
for your touchpad. See below.
> I very well know the config I want. Here's the command, using
> synclient:
>
> synclient RightButtonAreaLeft=0 RightButtonAreaTop=0 \
> ClickTime=20 AccelFactor=0.3 MaxSpeed=2.5 PalmDetect=1 \
> VertTwoFingerScroll=1 HorizTwoFingerScroll=1 VertEdgeScroll=0
> \ HorizEdgeScroll=0
>
> And wow! Nifty! "synclient -l" lists all the settings and with some
> experimentation I got middle click working with:
>
> synclient TapButton3=2 RightButtonAreaLeft=1800 \
> MiddleButtonAreaRight=1799 MiddleButtonAreaTop=1495 \
> MiddleButtonAreaLeft=1400
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/by-path/<name of your device goes here>"
Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
Option "ClickTime" "20"
Option "AccelFactor" "0.3"
Option "MaxSpeed" "2.5"
Option "PalmDetect" "1"
Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "1"
Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "1"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "0"
Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0"
Option "TapButton3" "2"
Option "RightButtonAreaLeft" "1800"
Option "RightButtonAreaTop" "0"
Option "MiddleButtonAreaLeft" "1799"
Option "MiddleButtonAreaTop" "1495"
Option "MiddleButtonAreaLeft" "1400"
EndSection
I prefer the following settings, though, on my Lenovo Ideapad S10e
(and similar settings on other laptops):
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/by-path/platform-i8042-serio-1-event-mouse"
Option "Protocol" "event"
Option "TapButton1" "1"
Option "TapButton2" "2"
Option "TapButton3" "3"
Option "VertEdgeScroll" "1"
Option "PalmDetect" "0"
Option "SHMConfig" "true"
Option "SendCoreEvents" "yes"
Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
Option "RBCornerButton" "0"
Option "RTCornerButton" "2"
EndSection
> I've added that to my .xinitrc, right after the xmodmap settings.
> (TapButton3=2 I now suspect is not useful.)
>
> I never knew about that tool and I wish I had. Where can I find full
> documentation on synclient?
>
> The docs in man are spartan. The docs here:
>
> https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/synaptics.4.html
>
> Don't incluse MiddleButton* directives. I found, quite by accident,
> that the order of the settings for MiddleButtonArea* is significant.
> In the wrong order, you just get error messages.
the "SoftButtonAreas" option:
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "RBL RBR RBT RBB MBL MBR MBT MBB"
I assume that is equivalent though I've never used either.
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Eli the Bearded
Jan 23, 2018, 4:39:14 PM1/23/18
to
In comp.os.linux.x, Peter \"Shaggy\" Haywood <phay...@alphalink.com.au> wrote:
> I apologise for the lateness of this followup! Since I see no other
> responses to your query (which doesn't necessarily mean there haven't
> been any, I know), I feel it is worth responding now.
I didn't see any others either.
> I apologise for the lateness of this followup! Since I see no other
> responses to your query (which doesn't necessarily mean there haven't
> been any, I know), I feel it is worth responding now.
> Groovy hepcat Eli the Bearded was jivin' in comp.os.linux.misc on Mon,
> 15 Jan 2018 7:20 am. It's a cool scene! Dig it.
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/748729/making-custom-synaptics-touchpad-config-persistent-not-working
>> I'm struggling to make my custom touchpad persistent.
> You need to open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make an "InputDevice" entry
> for your touchpad. See below.
That was quoted from the askubuntu site, not my own problem. I have no
>> I'm struggling to make my custom touchpad persistent.
> You need to open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make an "InputDevice" entry
> for your touchpad. See below.
problems making it "persistent" via my .xinitrc file.
> You probably want something like this (untested):
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "synaptics"
> Driver "synaptics"
> Option "Device" "/dev/input/by-path/<name of your device goes here>"
> Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
> Option "ClickTime" "20"
> Option "AccelFactor" "0.3"
> Option "MaxSpeed" "2.5"
> Option "PalmDetect" "1"
it yet.
>> I never knew about that tool and I wish I had. Where can I find full
>> documentation on synclient?
>>
>> The docs in man are spartan. The docs here:
>>
>> https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/synaptics.4.html
>
> Try man synaptics and man xorg.conf.
The above link is the "man synaptics" page.
>> that the order of the settings for MiddleButtonArea* is significant.
>> In the wrong order, you just get error messages.
probably the difference between expecting the whole set of changes is
applied in one atomic step, and all of the changes happening as separate
steps in the order encountered.
> My synaptics man page doesn't even list those options. It lists
> the "SoftButtonAreas" option:
>
> Option "SoftButtonAreas" "RBL RBR RBT RBB MBL MBR MBT MBB"
>
> I assume that is equivalent though I've never used either.
Option "SoftButtonAreas" "RBL RBR RBT RBB MBL MBR MBT MBB"
soft button click area support on ClickPad devices. The
first four parameters are the left, right, top, bottom edge
of the right button, respectively, the second four
parameters are the left, right, top, bottom edge of the
middle button, respectively. Any of the values may be given
as percentage of the touchpad width or height, whichever
applies. If any edge is set to 0 (not 0%), the button is
assumed to extend to infinity in the given direction.
Setting all values to 0 (not 0%) disables soft button
areas. Button areas may not overlap, however it is
permitted for two buttons to share an edge value.
Property: "Synaptics Soft Button Areas"
The settings I'm using are not percentages.
Elijah
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software defined buttons are neat, but not as tactile-friendly
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