Search the news groups via Alta Vista or DejaNews for a previous post by
me re: AT&T Worldnet and Linux. There's a web page out there that has
step by step instructions on the install.
FWIW, Does anyone have any info on setting up access to
BellAtlantic.net? I'm moving from Worldnet to BA.net (BA has ISDN).
I've gotten around the Dynamic DNS problem, but am not sure about the
PAP/CHAP/MS-CHAP settings (tech support was NO help).
Thanks,
Ken
Yup! That's the one.
Good luck!
Ken
Worldnet uses CHAP authentication. You need to set up a chap-secrets
file, and you have to tell pppd to use it. You cannot use a chat script.
See the PPP How-to, and IGNORE anything and anyone that tells you to use a
chat script. The purpose of chat is to look for and answer "Login: " and
"Password:" prompts -- you can see for yourself, AT&T is not using either
of those. (CHAP, Cryptographic Handshake Authentication Protocol -- is
the next step beyond even PAP. PAP and CHAP both drop you straight into
a PPP connection and do the login stuff invisibly.)
>after I sign on with my account name 3017######@worlnet.att.net
>then I get )(**())~))!)))!)()!)) blah blah blah, instead of a request
>for a password?
That's PPP starting up. You won't see the login negotiation, except
maybe in a log file for the session. But it's there and it's using CHAP.
Here in comp.os.linux.setup, Jim Foltz <aa...@freenet.akron.oh.us>
spake unto us, saying:
>Kevin Martin (can...@nic.com) wrote:
>
>: Worldnet uses CHAP authentication. You need to set up a chap-secrets
>: file, and you have to tell pppd to use it. You cannot use a chat script.
>
>How do you dial the modem without using chat?
That's actually a good question. I'm not using AT&T, but I *do* use PAP
(or CHAP -- I'm not sure, since I have both configured) with my ISP here,
and I used a chat script to perform the dialing function up to the point
where the modem issues a CONNECT response.
That's the method that the PPP-HOWTO describes, BTW (since that's what
I used as my cookbook to get PPP up and running), so I suspect anyone
else using the PPP-HOWTO will do something similar even if not using
chat for the archaic "ogin:/assword:"-style prompting stuff...
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: Worldnet uses CHAP authentication. You need to set up a chap-secrets
: file, and you have to tell pppd to use it. You cannot use a chat script.
How do you dial the modem without using chat?
: See the PPP How-to, and IGNORE anything and anyone that tells you to use a
Eric
Odd, I've found BA.net tech support to be extremely helpfull,
but then I haven't tried connecting my linux box to them, yet.
However, when I got the service I was telling them that my
system was a Linux box and that, yes, I did know how to set
up the software myself. The gave me all the little bits of
data I was going to need, including telling me that the PPP
dialup used PAP (Password Authentication Protocol). Are there
special settings within the PAP protocol? Maybe I can deduce
them from the FreePPP settings on my Mac?
- Jeff Dutky
Hello,
I also have BA.net and have had no luck so far connecting my Red Hat
4.1 to their service. I spent two evenings trying and finally e-mailed
tech support out of frustration. Here is a copy of their reply:
" We're using PAP authentication, but in some cases, there seems to be
problems connecting using the +pap option when starting up pppd. There
could also be a problem resulting from our use of dynamically assigned IP.
There is some sort of patch out there that will work with Linux to get
around that little road block however. Gateway and DNS addresses should
both be pushed back to you when you log on. The domain name is
bellatlantic.net, and should also be pushed back. There is also a little
something we have come up with that usually works with both Linux and UNIX
logins. It's sort of awkward, but it's effective. Mind you that all of
this is unofficial, but I hate seeing a Linux user not being able to get on
with us (I LIKE Linux)..."
"If you login in with a Terminal Program, <CR> after the connect and
blindly.... login <CR>, password <CR>, <ESCAPE>, suspend the Terminal
Program and fire up "pppd" without the PAP option ....you should get an
IP connection."
[rest deleted]
I've tried the above with minicom and it did not work. You'll have to disable
the lock on the modem in the settings and let pppd do the locking, I do anyway.
Overall I've been pleased with the service that BA provides. The only fault
so far is the fact that I can't get linux to connect.
Any suggestions? TIA
James Hubbard
jhubbard at clinch.edu or
chubbard at bellatlantic.net
Got it to work!!
1 - If you're assigned an ISP that uses dynamic DNS addresses, check
them out using WHOIS at INTERNIC. Print out the page listing the info.
For example - I'm using ICONNET.NET at the Hammonton, NJ access point.
My DNS's are 199.173.160.100 and 199.173.160.10.
2 - Get the AT&T Worldnet instructions at
http://204.127.237.208/wurd/connectivity/linux.html
3 - Review and go step-by-step through the document. Every time you see
CHAP, change to PAP. Use the DNS numbers from above.
4 - Fire it up! If you have problems, check the PPP-ON script
(especially that one LONG line).
I've even created a PPP-ON2 script to get 115kbps access (using a
Bitsurfr Pro).
Post here or mail me if you have a problem.
Ken
Now let me talk about the question you have. I use Linux to
connect to bellatlantic.net. Yes, you have to modify the
pap-secrets file. You will see the syntax requirement after
opening up the file. There is no trick at all. If I remember
correctly, it is "id", "*", "password". Take a look by
yourself... you should be able to figure out. It is not
complicated at all.
Good luck,
Jeff
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> FWIW, Does anyone have any info on setting up access to
> BellAtlantic.net? I'm moving from Worldnet to BA.net (BA has ISDN).
> I've gotten around the Dynamic DNS problem, but am not sure about the
> PAP/CHAP/MS-CHAP settings (tech support was NO help).
>
I use BA with ISDN and have no problems with it..here is a copy
of my ppp script that I run:
####################################################################
#!/bin/sh
pppd /dev/ttyP16 38400 crtscts defaultroute +ua /etc/ppp/pap connect
'chat ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" "" ATZ OK ATD<PHONE#>'
#
####################################################################
Because I use ISDN, I purchased a Hayes ESP serial card so I can
drive the serial port at 230k. My ESP card is defined at
/dev/ttyP16 with 38400 representing 230k. Just change them
appropriately for your settings. In addition, create a simple
file called "pap" and put in it your logon name and password
as such:
<NAME>
<PASSWORD>
BTW, I use a 3ComImpact IQ ISDN modem...Any questions, just ask..
--Mike
PS. This also works for regular modems, not just my ISDN modem.
Just change the /dev/<whatever> to the device defining your modem.
--Mike
Mike,
You wouldn't happen to have a diald setup, would you???
Ken