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Alan Mackenzie

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:12:42 PM11/12/09
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That's KVM "Keyboard/Video/Mouse" as in the electronic box you used to
get, with which you could connect up one set of {K V M} to several PCs.

More recently, there's software been developed, by which you can control
a remote computer similarly, with the necessary signals going over
Ethernet. trouble is, all the one's I've seen are restricted to
X-Windows. I want something that works on a remote virtual terminal.

Does anybody know any free software which does this?

Thanks in advance!

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Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Lew Pitcher

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:24:57 PM11/12/09
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On November 12, 2009 18:12, in comp.os.linux.setup, Alan Mackenzie
(a...@muc.de) wrote:

> That's KVM "Keyboard/Video/Mouse" as in the electronic box you used to
> get, with which you could connect up one set of {K V M} to several PCs.
>
> More recently, there's software been developed, by which you can control
> a remote computer similarly, with the necessary signals going over
> Ethernet. trouble is, all the one's I've seen are restricted to
> X-Windows. I want something that works on a remote virtual terminal.
>
> Does anybody know any free software which does this?

I'm not sure I understand your requirements.

Are you looking for an ethernet data-stream equivalent of a KVM switch? That
is to say, a tool that will encode raw video signals from a video card, raw
keypress signals from a keyboard and raw mouse movement signals from a
mouse serial port into ethernet frames, and decode the same on the other
side? If so, I doubt that such a thing exists, at least as a software tool.

Or, are you looking for a graphic-enabled (i.e. framebuffer, but not X)
remote display? If so, then VNC might be what you are looking for. I'm not
talking about the VNC "X Server", but a raw VNC handler.

Finally, if you just want character data back and forth, why not use ssh or
telnet?

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Lew Pitcher
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John Hasler

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:30:31 PM11/12/09
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Alan Mackenzie writes:
> More recently, there's software been developed, by which you can
> control a remote computer similarly, with the necessary signals going
> over Ethernet. trouble is, all the one's I've seen are restricted to
> X-Windows.

"More recently"? The X Window System has always worked seamlessly over
the network (i.e., since before KVM switches were invented).

> I want something that works on a remote virtual terminal.

ssh works for me (perhaps with screen).

> Does anybody know any free software which does this?

What are you trying to accomplish?
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John Hasler
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Alan Mackenzie

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:41:05 PM11/12/09
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Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> wrote:
> On November 12, 2009 18:12, in comp.os.linux.setup, Alan Mackenzie
> (a...@muc.de) wrote:

>> That's KVM "Keyboard/Video/Mouse" as in the electronic box you used to
>> get, with which you could connect up one set of {K V M} to several
>> PCs.

>> More recently, there's software been developed, by which you can
>> control a remote computer similarly, with the necessary signals going
>> over Ethernet. trouble is, all the one's I've seen are restricted to
>> X-Windows. I want something that works on a remote virtual terminal.

>> Does anybody know any free software which does this?

> I'm not sure I understand your requirements.

I'm installing Gentoo on a laptop, and getting a sore back from all the
leaning over sideways to read the documentation. I could do it much more
easily if I could just use my desktop keyboard and monitor.

> Are you looking for an ethernet data-stream equivalent of a KVM switch?
> That is to say, a tool that will encode raw video signals from a video
> card, raw keypress signals from a keyboard and raw mouse movement
> signals from a mouse serial port into ethernet frames, and decode the
> same on the other side? If so, I doubt that such a thing exists, at
> least as a software tool.

I don't think I need that. I need character data going over the line,
preferably including the colours.

> Or, are you looking for a graphic-enabled (i.e. framebuffer, but not X)
> remote display? If so, then VNC might be what you are looking for. I'm
> not talking about the VNC "X Server", but a raw VNC handler.

OK, I'll look at that.

> Finally, if you just want character data back and forth, why not use
> ssh or telnet?

A good question! I've already used ssh from the prototyp Gentoo system.
Can ssh transmit colour information, like what you get when you do "ls
--color"?

In fact, that's such a good idea, I'm going to go and try it out right
now. Thanks!

Lew Pitcher

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:48:51 PM11/12/09
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On November 12, 2009 18:41, in comp.os.linux.setup, Alan Mackenzie
(a...@muc.de) wrote:

> Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>> On November 12, 2009 18:12, in comp.os.linux.setup, Alan Mackenzie
>> (a...@muc.de) wrote:
>
>>> That's KVM "Keyboard/Video/Mouse" as in the electronic box you used to
>>> get, with which you could connect up one set of {K V M} to several
>>> PCs.
>
>>> More recently, there's software been developed, by which you can
>>> control a remote computer similarly, with the necessary signals going
>>> over Ethernet. trouble is, all the one's I've seen are restricted to
>>> X-Windows. I want something that works on a remote virtual terminal.
>
>>> Does anybody know any free software which does this?

[snip]


>> Finally, if you just want character data back and forth, why not use
>> ssh or telnet?
>
> A good question! I've already used ssh from the prototyp Gentoo system.
> Can ssh transmit colour information, like what you get when you do "ls
> --color"?

Yes, it can. You need to ensure that both ends use the appropriate terminal
definition though. With $TERM set to "xterm" on the target end (where the
programs will run), and running in an xterm window on the source end (where
I'm sitting), my ssh session to my server responds with colour
for "ls --color" commands

> In fact, that's such a good idea, I'm going to go and try it out right
> now. Thanks!
>

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Alan Mackenzie

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:01:22 PM11/12/09
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Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> wrote:
> On November 12, 2009 18:41, in comp.os.linux.setup, Alan Mackenzie
> (a...@muc.de) wrote:

>> Lew Pitcher <lpit...@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>>> On November 12, 2009 18:12, in comp.os.linux.setup, Alan Mackenzie
>>> (a...@muc.de) wrote:

>>>> Does anybody know any free software which does this?
> [snip]
>>> Finally, if you just want character data back and forth, why not use
>>> ssh or telnet?

>> A good question! I've already used ssh from the prototyp Gentoo
>> system. Can ssh transmit colour information, like what you get when
>> you do "ls --color"?

> Yes, it can. You need to ensure that both ends use the appropriate
> terminal definition though. With $TERM set to "xterm" on the target end
> (where the programs will run), and running in an xterm window on the
> source end (where I'm sitting), my ssh session to my server responds
> with colour for "ls --color" commands

>> In fact, that's such a good idea, I'm going to go and try it out right
>> now. Thanks!

I can access my ancient desktop machine using ssh from the prototype
Gentoo box. I can even run full facility Emacs from it. I can't, as
yet, access the laptop from my desktop box. No doubt, some simple
modification (such as creating a non-root user on the laptop) will make
it work. Or do I need to install an ssh-daemon on the laptop?

Anyhow, the ssh idea was so brilliant, I'm wondering why I didn't think
of it myself. ;-)

John Hasler

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:13:16 PM11/12/09
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Alan Mackenzie writes:
> Or do I need to install an ssh-daemon on the laptop?

Yes, of course.

John Reiser

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:20:24 PM11/12/09
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On 11/12/2009 03:30 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie writes:
>> More recently, there's software been developed, by which you can
>> control a remote computer similarly, with the necessary signals going
>> over Ethernet. trouble is, all the one's I've seen are restricted to
>> X-Windows.
>
> "More recently"? The X Window System has always worked seamlessly over
> the network (i.e., since before KVM switches were invented).

In the last several years many software distributions have chosen
to invoke the X11 server with the "-nolisten" argument, which disables
some of the visible network functionality. This is an extra layer of
"security." I have been inconvenienced by this practice a couple times,
such as when I want to be remote from both the server and the display.
[Three machines: mine, the server, the display:
ssh a.b.c.d "DISPLAY=e.f.g.h:3 /path/to/client"
where screen 3 at ip4 e.f.g.h has the client display and pointer
(mouse), the program is running on ip4 a.b.c.d, and I have stdin+
stdout+stderr but no login account on the machine with the display.
This is quite some fun, particularly when client is a debugger
such as gdb!]

>> I want something that works on a remote virtual terminal.
>
> ssh works for me (perhaps with screen).

Or "ssh -Y" if forwarding an X11 connection.

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Wanna-Be Sys Admin

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:33:06 PM11/18/09
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Alan Mackenzie wrote:

I don't know of any off hand that I can recall, just stay away from any
of the Java based crap, and, like you said, try and get one you can
connect to over a normal terminal via SSH.
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Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.

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