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vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Dec 8, 2013, 3:06:29 PM12/8/13
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What Dialup programs are there for Linux (specifically for Linpus.com, which
is a variant of Fedora/Redhat that comes preinstalled on Acer Aspire One)?

Qodem & CKermit? others?



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Moe Trin

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Dec 8, 2013, 9:42:08 PM12/8/13
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On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<l82jg5$cn2$1...@reader1.panix.com>, vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

>What Dialup programs are there for Linux

ecu, minicom, modemu, pcomm, seyon, termite, virtmodem, xc

>(specifically for Linpus.com, which is a variant of Fedora/Redhat
>that comes preinstalled on Acer Aspire One)?

Not familiar with it, but you probably want minicom. Of course, that
assumes you have a terminal server to dial in to. If your ISP has
such a service - fine. Most don't, but have ppp service. For that,
all you need is pppd which probably comes with your distro. There
are a number of ``helper'' programs such as wvdial, kppp, and
similar that might be useful, but I've always used a simple command
line script.

[galileo ~]$ cat /etc/ppp/options | column
lock crtscts nodetach defaultroute
/dev/modem modem 115200 noipdefault
[galileo ~]$ ls -l /etc/ppp/*ap-secrets /etc/resolv.conf
-rw------- 1 root root 99 Jun 16 2008 /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
-rw------- 1 root root 94 Jun 16 2008 /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 49 Jun 16 2008 /etc/resolv.conf
[galileo ~]$ cat /usr/local/bin/dialin.example
exec /usr/sbin/pppd user ibup...@example.com connect "/usr/sbin/chat
ABORT BUSY \"\" AT\&F1 OK ATDT2662902 CONNECT \"\d\c\""
[galileo ~]$

NOTE 1: That's one long (127 characters) line.
NOTE 2: The back-slashes are hiding the interior quotes from the shell.
NOTE 3: The AT&F1 is for a US Robotics - others want AT&F0.

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Michael Black

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Dec 9, 2013, 2:22:26 PM12/9/13
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, Moe Trin wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
> <l82jg5$cn2$1...@reader1.panix.com>, vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>
>> What Dialup programs are there for Linux
>
> ecu, minicom, modemu, pcomm, seyon, termite, virtmodem, xc
>
>> (specifically for Linpus.com, which is a variant of Fedora/Redhat
>> that comes preinstalled on Acer Aspire One)?
>
> Not familiar with it, but you probably want minicom. Of course, that
> assumes you have a terminal server to dial in to. If your ISP has
> such a service - fine. Most don't, but have ppp service. For that,
> all you need is pppd which probably comes with your distro. There
> are a number of ``helper'' programs such as wvdial, kppp, and
> similar that might be useful, but I've always used a simple command
> line script.
>
And once you get a ppp connection, you can telnet (or ssh) into the
server, really the same thing as running a terminal emulator on your
computer. If the ISP still has shell access, you can do it this way.

I suspect that wasn't really the question. I think he's asking about
dialup (which as you point out is pretty much completely ppp these days)
rather than DSL or cable. Something where you actually need a dialup
modem for.

One issue here is that the netbook has no serial port, so one has to get a
usb modem, or a USB to serial interface. I suspct that's why dialup
utilities are missing, the expected method of online access for the
netbook is via wifi or ethernet, the interfaces for those included. Since
that's the expectation, the stripped down Linux is missing such things

Michael

vjp...@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com

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Dec 9, 2013, 3:21:54 PM12/9/13
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*+->> What Dialup programs are there for Linux
*+->
*+-> ecu, minicom, modemu, pcomm, seyon, termite, virtmodem, xc
*+->
*+-> Not familiar with it, but you probably want minicom. Of course, that

THanks, I'll try those.

Plain dialup with vt52 emulation on regular phone line.

On DOS I use MS-Kermit and Hyperterm on XP.

Moe Trin

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Dec 9, 2013, 9:19:19 PM12/9/13
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<alpine.LNX.2.02.1...@darkstar.example.org>, Michael Black wrote:

>Moe Trin wrote:

>> vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

>>> What Dialup programs are there for Linux

[...]

>>> (specifically for Linpus.com, which is a variant of Fedora/Redhat
>>> that comes preinstalled on Acer Aspire One)?

>> Not familiar with it, but you probably want minicom. Of course,
>> that assumes you have a terminal server to dial in to. If your
>> ISP has such a service - fine. Most don't, but have ppp service.
>> For that, all you need is pppd which probably comes with your
>> distro.

>And once you get a ppp connection, you can telnet (or ssh) into the
>server, really the same thing as running a terminal emulator on your
>computer. If the ISP still has shell access, you can do it this way.

PPP (RFC 1661 and friends) is a networking protocol, much like Token
Ring or Ethernet. IP packets are carried within those protocols.

>One issue here is that the netbook has no serial port, so one has to
>get a usb modem, or a USB to serial interface. I suspct that's why
>dialup utilities are missing, the expected method of online access
>for the netbook is via wifi or ethernet, the interfaces for those
>included. Since that's the expectation, the stripped down Linux is
>missing such things

Good point - I still use dialup access to a lesser extent, and about
four years ago had to replace my trusty USR for that same reason. I
now have two USR 5637 (USB type) that worked "out of the box" - the
only thing I had to change in the scripts was the modem port (from
/dev/ttyS3 to /dev/ttyACM0). Because it's not limited by the
emulated 16550A UART, you can also run it faster than 115.2k (a v.92
connection with v.44 data compression can boggy along at 230.4k with
no problems on compressible files like raw text).

Old guy

Moe Trin

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Dec 9, 2013, 9:20:48 PM12/9/13
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<l858p1$maj$2...@reader1.panix.com>, vjp...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

>*+->> What Dialup programs are there for Linux
>*+->
>*+-> ecu, minicom, modemu, pcomm, seyon, termite, virtmodem, xc
>*+->
>*+-> Not familiar with it, but you probably want minicom.

>THanks, I'll try those.

>Plain dialup with vt52 emulation on regular phone line.

[jade ~]$ whatis minicom
minicom (1) - friendly serial communication program
[jade ~]$

Welcome to minicom 2.3

OPTIONS: I18n
Compiled on Feb 26 2009, 00:28:35.
Port /dev/ttyACM0
+---------------[Terminal settings]----------------+
| |
| A - Terminal emulation : VT102 |
| B - Backspace key sends : BS |
| C - Status line is : enabled |
| D - Newline delay (ms) : 0 |
| E - ENQ answerback : Minicom2.3 |
| |
| Change which setting? |
| |
+--------------------------------------------------+

Note, it only does "ANSI" or "VT102", but I suspect that will do the
trick for you. Note also, it knows how to speak directly to a USB
serial port

Old guy
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