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Matt Giwer

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:22:13 AM11/19/09
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12 was released a few days ago and despite my usual "let the other
gut find the problems" approach I upgraded a recent Fedora 11 install. The
11 install was less that two weeks ago on a new machine.

1) It took forever. The install and upgrade times seem to be in direct
proportion to the release number.

2) The first thing I did was a yum upgrade (essentially the same as update)
and it is now in the process of downloading 2.5 GB of upgrade/update
material.

3) Huh!?! This is more than double my usual month or two procrastination
requires to upgrade.

3a) Note: most changes are in fast developing apps. What you see in your
regular upgrades would appear to be a lot more than this but an upgrade
after install should only see the most recent.

I am aware that a release needs be frozen long before the release
date to work out the bugs. This might as well have been frozen just after
Fedora 11 was released. The entire install disk is only 3.5GB.

Is Redhat telling me to use network install?

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Nico Kadel-Garcia

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:16:32 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 7:22 am, Matt Giwer <matt@localhost> wrote:
>         12 was released a few days ago and despite my usual "let the other
> gut find the problems" approach I upgraded a recent Fedora 11 install. The
> 11 install was less that two weeks ago on a new machine.
>
> 1) It took forever. The install and upgrade times seem to be in direct
> proportion to the release number.
>
> 2) The first thing I did was a yum upgrade (essentially the same as update)
> and it is now in the process of downloading 2.5 GB of upgrade/update
> material.
>
> 3) Huh!?! This is more than double my usual month or two procrastination
> requires to upgrade.
>
> 3a) Note: most changes are in fast developing apps. What you see in your
> regular upgrades would appear to be a lot more than this but an upgrade
> after install should only see the most recent.
>
>         I am aware that a release needs be frozen long before the release
> date to work out the bugs. This might as well have been frozen just after
> Fedora 11 was released. The entire install disk is only 3.5GB.
>
>         Is Redhat telling me to use network install?

No, network install typically works with the base OS repository unless
you carefully point it to the "Everything" repository, not the bare
"os" repository. The Everything repository is *insanely* large:
keeping the maps for Alien Arena and other first shooters in it seems
nutty to me, and makes keeping a local mirror more difficult.

Steve Hayes

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Jan 19, 2010, 12:02:25 PM1/19/10
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:22:13 -0500, Matt Giwer <matt@localhost> wrote:

> 12 was released a few days ago and despite my usual "let the other
>gut find the problems" approach I upgraded a recent Fedora 11 install. The
>11 install was less that two weeks ago on a new machine.

I just installed Fedora 12 on my machine. I've been trying to get Linux to run
for 10 years, and have no better luck this time than the first time.

It doesn't seem to recognise my monitor, and looks like Windows booted in safe
mode,

Where can I dind a driver for it (Flatron W1542S)?

And how would I install it?


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John Hasler

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Jan 19, 2010, 12:41:49 PM1/19/10
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Steve Hayes writes:
> Where can I dind a driver for it (Flatron W1542S)?

Monitors don't need drivers. You just need to configure X properly.
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Steve Hayes

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Jan 19, 2010, 4:17:01 PM1/19/10
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:41:49 -0600, John Hasler <jha...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>Steve Hayes writes:
>> Where can I dind a driver for it (Flatron W1542S)?
>
>Monitors don't need drivers. You just need to configure X properly.

So how does one do that?

François Patte

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Jan 19, 2010, 4:42:29 PM1/19/10
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Le 19/01/2010 22:17, Steve Hayes a �crit :

> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:41:49 -0600, John Hasler <jha...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve Hayes writes:
>>> Where can I dind a driver for it (Flatron W1542S)?
>> Monitors don't need drivers. You just need to configure X properly.
>
> So how does one do that?

If your system is correctly installed:

System>Admin>Display


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Steve Hayes

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:25:12 PM1/20/10
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:42:29 +0100, Fran�ois Patte
<francoi...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote:

>Le 19/01/2010 22:17, Steve Hayes a �crit :
>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:41:49 -0600, John Hasler <jha...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Hayes writes:
>>>> Where can I dind a driver for it (Flatron W1542S)?
>>> Monitors don't need drivers. You just need to configure X properly.
>>
>> So how does one do that?
>
>If your system is correctly installed:
>
>System>Admin>Display

Been there, done that: Unknown.

unruh

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Jan 20, 2010, 12:45:39 PM1/20/10
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On 2010-01-20, Steve Hayes <haye...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:42:29 +0100, Fran?ois Patte
><francoi...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote:
>
>>Le 19/01/2010 22:17, Steve Hayes a ?crit :

>>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:41:49 -0600, John Hasler <jha...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve Hayes writes:
>>>>> Where can I dind a driver for it (Flatron W1542S)?
>>>> Monitors don't need drivers. You just need to configure X properly.
>>>
>>> So how does one do that?
>>
>>If your system is correctly installed:
>>
>>System>Admin>Display
>
> Been there, done that: Unknown.

Chose the closest-- eg LCD 1280x1024
( most important is the resolution-- LCD screen should always be
operated at their fixed resultion. Unlike CRT you cannot adjust the beam
intensity, and you get bad jaggies or Moire if you are not at the proper
resolution.


>
>
>

Stefan Patric

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Jan 20, 2010, 3:45:40 PM1/20/10
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On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:25:12 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:42:29 +0100, François Patte
> <francoi...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote:


>
>>Le 19/01/2010 22:17, Steve Hayes a écrit :
>>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:41:49 -0600, John Hasler <jha...@newsguy.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve Hayes writes:
>>>>> Where can I dind a driver for it (Flatron W1542S)?
>>>> Monitors don't need drivers. You just need to configure X properly.
>>>
>>> So how does one do that?
>>
>>If your system is correctly installed:
>>
>>System>Admin>Display
>
> Been there, done that: Unknown.

Check that you have the proper driver for your graphics card. I have an
GeForce 6600 Nvidia card (non-3D), and the F12 installer picked the
nouveau driver for it. Works fine with my LG Flatron L1960TR-BF using
the DVI input.

On previous versions of Fedora I ran (6 & 9 64-bit), had to use the
proprietary Nvidia driver from the repository (instead of nv) to get the
monitor to work correctly. If you have an Nvidia based card, search for
kmod-nvidia. It's the metapackage that will assure the proper nvidia
module is installed for your kernel.


Stef

John Thompson

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Jan 20, 2010, 11:07:59 PM1/20/10
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On 2010-01-20, Steve Hayes <haye...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:42:29 +0100, François Patte
><francoi...@mi.parisdescartes.fr> wrote:

>
>>Le 19/01/2010 22:17, Steve Hayes a écrit :
>>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:41:49 -0600, John Hasler <jha...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Monitors don't need drivers. You just need to configure X properly.
>>>
>>> So how does one do that?
>>
>>If your system is correctly installed:
>>
>>System>Admin>Display
>
> Been there, done that: Unknown.

From a text console, without X running, do "Xorg -configure" then copy
the resulting xorg.conf.new file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf

From there you can tweak /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a text editor to make
it work the way you want.

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