Have static IP, what do I do for a host name?
Evan Panagiotopoulos
Web server. I need a host name, I think, so I can set up Samba. How do I
go about it?
Thanks for the help and suggestions.
--
Evan Panagiotopoulos
Library/Media Technology Director
Poughkeepsie City School District
Jem Berkes
>
> I have a computer with Linux installed and planning to set it up as a
> Web server. I need a host name, I think, so I can set up Samba. How do I
> go about it?
>
> Thanks for the help and suggestions.
You can get a free host name at dhs.org (e.g. something.dhs.org)
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Bassman
to be a file server for a local windows network as well as a
webserver? If so, only need a netbios name, and you can pick any one
you like as long as it's unique on your local network. What are you
trying to do exactly?
Bassman
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David_C
>
> I have a computer with Linux installed and planning to set it up as a
> Web server. I need a host name, I think, so I can set up Samba. How do
> I go about it?
A host name that is only usable within your private LAN (such as for
Samba use) can be done with no registration. Pick a name (preferably
one that employs non-existant top-level domain, so it won't conflict
with any real domain) and set up /etc/hosts on all your computers to map
your names to your IP addresses.
If you want a name to be publicly available to the internet, then you
will need two things. You'll need a domain registration, and you'll
need two independant name servers.
Domain registration can be done from a great many sources. You can
register under one of the "big three" US top-level domains (.com, .org
and .net) via several different registrars, including Network Solutions
(http://www.networksolutions.com/) and Register.com
(http://www.register.com/). Registering under one of these three
top-level domains will require you to provide a credit card number to
the registrar - it will be charged $35 a year for the name. Some
registrars may also impose a one-time setup fee.
Another possibility is to register under the .us domain (if you're in
the US, of course.) Registration under .us is free, but registrars may
charge a nominal setup fee. All .us domain names are broken down by
state and town, so you'll end up registering something like
mydomain.sunnyvale.ca.us. See http://www.us/ for information on
registering under the .us domain.
If you're not in the US, you can also register under your country's
top-level domain (like. uk, .fr, .jp, etc.) I don't know the procedure
for registering under one of those domains.
But registering your domain name is only half of the problem. The
registration simply points DNS users at a name server, which can resolve
a full host name into an IP address. You will need to set up such a
name server. Most domain registrars will require you to have two
independant name servers (a primary and a backup).
If you have computers to spare, you can run BIND on a two Linux boxes
and use them as your name server. If you've got a friend with a
permenant IP address, you can each run BIND and act as each others' name
servers - so your redundant servers will have some degree of geographic
separation. But I don't recommend this. Setting up, maintaining, and
securing BIND is something that is best left to the experts.
Your ISP might be willing to let you use their name servers. You should
ask them. They might charge you for this, however. And they might not
be willing (or able) to server names that aren't under the big-3 top
level domains.
Many domain registrars will sell you name service in addition to your
domain name - so you can use that as well.
There are also commercial name servers that you can pay to use.
Finally, there are free name servers on the net that you can register
for. Note, however, that these services are not always easy to use.
They rarely provide a lot of tech support, so you'll have to know what
you're doing. You get what you pay for. If you're like me - capable of
running a BIND server but unwilling to maintain and secure it properly -
then these services are great. If you want someone else to do all the
work, then you'll probably prefer using your ISP or a commercial name
service.
Anyway, once you have your two name servers running and your domain name
registered and pointing at those servers, you're all set. The rest will
work automagically as part of the normal operation of DNS.
-- David
Hal Burgiss
>
>Domain registration can be done from a great many sources. You can
>register under one of the "big three" US top-level domains (.com, .org
>and .net) via several different registrars, including Network Solutions
>(http://www.networksolutions.com/) and Register.com
>(http://www.register.com/). Registering under one of these three
>top-level domains will require you to provide a credit card number to
>the registrar - it will be charged $35 a year for the name. Some
>registrars may also impose a one-time setup fee.
Just in case anyone is pinching pennies, www.registerclub.com does this
for $10, no other charges.
--
Hal B
h...@foobox.net
h...@burgiss.net
hbur...@bellsouth.net
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David_C
>
> Just in case anyone is pinching pennies, www.registerclub.com does this
> for $10, no other charges.
Here are some excerpts from InterNIC's FAQ:
http://www.internic.net/faq.html
How much does a domain-name registration name cost?
Each registrar sets the price it charges for registering names,
and prices vary significantly among different registrars. In
addition, some registrars offer discounted or free registration
services in connection with other offerings, such as web
hosting. To see what offering best meets your needs, you should
go to the web sites of several of the registrars listed in the
Registrar Directory on this site.
When do I have to pay for my domain name?
Before your domain name becomes active, you must provide a
credit card number or other reasonable assurance of
payment. This requirement enhances the availability of domain
names by preventing them from being tied up by persons not
intending to pay for registration.
Here's the list of accredited registrars for .com, .org and .net:
http://www.internic.net/alpha.html
The final word on all domain registrations is ICANN
(http://www.icann.com/). ICANN's list of accredited registrars
(worldwide) is:
http://www.icann.org/registrars/accredited-list.html
Notice that Neither Register Club nor their parent company (MPC
Internetworks) is on either of these lists. This means that they can
not register a domain name on their own. They will be using some other
registrar to process the name. If that registrar imposes any additional
fees, they will be passed along to you (unless Register Club wants to
eat those fees in exchange for some other kind of consideration - which
I think would be very unlikely.)
Register Club's own domain is registered through bulkregister.com. I'm
guessing that they are paying bulkregister.com's annual membership fee,
so they can pass the discounted registrations on to others. If this is
what they're really doing, then domains will cost $10 per year - _NOT_ a
one-time $10 fee forever. (This is assuming they make no profit off of
the registrations, which is possible if they're also selling name
services, mailboxes and web pages.)
The cheapest long-term solution is still to register under the .us TLD.
The registrar for my area charged a one-time $35 setup fee. There will
never be another charge. And I didn't have to provide a credit card
number.
While this is great for personal domains, it is probably bad for any
kind of business domain. After all, how many customers will remember
www.mycorporation.mobile.al.us, vs www.mycorporation.com?
-- David
Ethan Schwartz
certain amount of time (no use for you, but great for people with dynamic
IPs...)
"Jem Berkes" <jbe...@delete.pc-tools.net> wrote in message
news:39CE7BCD...@delete.pc-tools.net...
> Evan Panagiotopoulos wrote:
> >
> > I have a computer with Linux installed and planning to set it up as a
> > Web server. I need a host name, I think, so I can set up Samba. How do I
> > go about it?
> >