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> the best web site formarrige and frindship www.[xxxx].com???????? ????????
Welcome to my killfile, this looks like asking for a permanent
entry in the lines off:
^User-Agent:[ ]G2/1.0*$
I'd like to avoid, but the permanent abuse makes one think about
it...
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#bofh excuse 260: We're upgrading /dev/null
>In comp.os.linux.misc ?????? ???????? <arab...@gmail.com>:
>
>> the best web site formarrige and frindship www.[xxxx].com???????? ????????
>
>Welcome to my killfile
[compton ~]$ grep -vE '^([%\[ ]|Score|$)' /var/spool/slrnpull/score | cut
-d' ' -f1 | sort | uniq -c | column
793 From: 5 Message-ID: 75 Xref:
2 Lines: 238 Subject: 2 ~Subject:
[compton ~]$
one of those apparently got the spammer here, and I'm separately starting
to filter on NNTP Posting Host to kill the religious posts. About a
quarter of .ae, .ps, and .sa have indicated there is nothing on-topic
in their posts.
>this looks like asking for a permanent entry in the lines off:
>
>^User-Agent:[ ]G2/1.0*$
>
>I'd like to avoid, but the permanent abuse makes one think about it...
Depends on where you put it - if done in leafnode, you'll have to stop
posting your newsgroup stats, as google is (unfortunately) used by many
posters whose ISPs are either so cheap, or so stupid as to not have a
news service.
Old guy
Tin can't score on User-Agent (yet), but this would work:
msgid_only=\.googlegroups\.com>
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>> On Sun, 6 May 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in article
>> <2251h4-...@news.heiming.de>, Michael Heiming wrote:
>>>this looks like asking for a permanent entry in the lines off:
>>>^User-Agent:[ ]G2/1.0*$
>>>I'd like to avoid, but the permanent abuse makes one think about it...
>> Depends on where you put it - if done in leafnode, you'll have to stop
>> posting your newsgroup stats, as google is (unfortunately) used by many
>> posters whose ISPs are either so cheap, or so stupid as to not have a
>> news service.
In addition to users not knowing what usenet is at all, since
they use groups.google and might not be aware what the fuzz is
about?
Yep, it would certainly make the stats unusable, though I might
just run a second leafnode exclusively for the stats to overcome
the annoyance.
Google might just easily solve the problem, by disallowing to
post with the below charsets and alike to a newsgroup which
language isn't Arabic, if there is such newsgroup at all?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256"
Most sense makes here:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Though any Latin language encoding should just work if you write
in English.
> Tin can't score on User-Agent (yet), but this would work:
> msgid_only=\.googlegroups\.com>
Might do the trick, though I have never put much work into tin
kill filling, leafnode does all I need at a more centralized
point.
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#bofh excuse 442: Trojan horse ran out of hay
In comp.os.linux.misc on Sun, 6 May 2007 22:46:12 +0200, Michael
Heiming <michael...@www.heiming.de> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid>:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc on Sun, 06 May 2007 13:54:55 -0500, Moe Trin
>> <ibup...@painkiller.example.tld> wrote:
>
>>> On Sun, 6 May 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in article
>>> <2251h4-...@news.heiming.de>, Michael Heiming wrote:
>
>>>>this looks like asking for a permanent entry in the lines off:
>
>>>>^User-Agent:[ ]G2/1.0*$
>
>>>>I'd like to avoid, but the permanent abuse makes one think about it...
>
>>> Depends on where you put it - if done in leafnode, you'll have to stop
>>> posting your newsgroup stats, as google is (unfortunately) used by many
>>> posters whose ISPs are either so cheap, or so stupid as to not have a
>>> news service.
>
> In addition to users not knowing what usenet is at all, since
> they use groups.google and might not be aware what the fuzz is
> about?
On the other hand, some helpful people may use Google Gropes when they
temporarily lack access to a real news server. Any system of
killfiling Gropers has to be flexible enough to allow the useful
minority not to be killfiled.
<...>
>> Tin can't score on User-Agent (yet), but this would work:
>
>> msgid_only=\.googlegroups\.com>
>
> Might do the trick, though I have never put much work into tin
> kill filling, leafnode does all I need at a more centralized
> point.
Leafnode can only choose between retrieving or killing an article. Tin
can also give it a score for sorting purposes, and the article will
still be available from Leafnode if follow-ups suggest that it's worth
reading.
E.g., I'm currently experimenting with these rules in Slrn, which I'm
sure could be adapted for Tin:
% Google Gropers
[*comp*, news.*]
Score: -100
Message-Id: \.googlegroups\.com>
~From: poster@example\.com
~From: poster@example\.net
Score: -200
Message-ID: \googlegroups\.com>
~From: poster@example\.com
~From: poster@example\.net
{::
Xref: :.*:
~References: .
}
The effect with my current settings is that all Gropers not
individually excluded are scored down and sorted towards the bottom of
the list of articles, while all non-excluded Gropers who start new
threads or who participate in crossposts are marked read.
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problem is his char-set.
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>[I thought we might as well have a meaningful Subject line]
Google is making a lot of enemies, isn't it?
>Michael Heiming <michael...@www.heiming.de> wrote:
>> Peter J Ross <p...@example.invalid>:
>>> Moe Trin <ibup...@painkiller.example.tld> wrote:
>>>> Michael Heiming wrote:
>>>>>this looks like asking for a permanent entry in the lines off:
>>
>>>>>^User-Agent:[ ]G2/1.0*$
>>>> Depends on where you put it - if done in leafnode, you'll have to stop
>>>> posting your newsgroup stats, as google is (unfortunately) used by many
>>>> posters whose ISPs are either so cheap, or so stupid as to not have a
>>>> news service.
>> In addition to users not knowing what usenet is at all, since
>> they use groups.google and might not be aware what the fuzz is
>> about?
Google is a major part of the problem, because despite their vast and
vaunted computer skills, they can't (or won't) control blatant spam,
much less the clueless abuse. I regret it, but I'm starting to kill on
the NNTP-Posting-Host: header, only my cuts are more broad. They're
killing their own goose, because if all you see is spammers and abusers
on google, what's the sense of going there and hence who is going to see
their crappy ads? Their "service" is getting less attractive every day,
and fortunately there ARE alternatives in the search engine business.
>On the other hand, some helpful people may use Google Gropes when they
>temporarily lack access to a real news server. Any system of
>killfiling Gropers has to be flexible enough to allow the useful
>minority not to be killfiled.
I don't yet know how many useful/helpful people are posting from there,
but my concern is the legitimate poster - mostly new users - who are
having a real problem and need help, and for one reason or another has
no other access to Usenet. That's the main reason I haven't killed
google-posters long ago - as you show, it's absolutely trivial to do.
>>> msgid_only=\.googlegroups\.com>
Geez, I haven't used tin in _AGES_ and can't remember the syntax
>> Might do the trick, though I have never put much work into tin
>> kill filling, leafnode does all I need at a more centralized
>> point.
I'm not having any real problems doing so with slrn.
>E.g., I'm currently experimenting with these rules in Slrn, which I'm
sure could be adapted for Tin:
>% Google Gropers
>[*comp*, news.*]
>Score: -100
> Message-Id: \.googlegroups\.com>
> ~From: poster@example\.com
> ~From: poster@example\.net
Message-Id: contains googlegroups.com and (not) from poster $FOO - yeah
that works.
>Score: -200
> {::
> Xref: :.*:
> ~References: .
> }
Never tried this - and not sure I understand it. The 'Xref:" catches
posts to multiple groups (which I don't mind), while the 'References:'
header should catch replies. I do filter on the Xref: header, but that
is mainly some wide regex's to ignore obviously off-topic groups such
as most of the alphabet. Just looked at the newsgroup file, and forget
the big-eight newsgroups, my server has groups I've never considered:
[compton ~]$ cut -d'.' -f1 .newsrc | sort -u | wc -l
4275
[compton ~]$
That would be the first dotted name of the 107000 newsgroups available.
>The effect with my current settings is that all Gropers not
>individually excluded are scored down and sorted towards the bottom of
>the list of articles, while all non-excluded Gropers who start new
>threads or who participate in crossposts are marked read.
Looks correct - this won't work for me, as I do most of the filtering
in slrnpull, and any negative ending score results in that article
being killed. This would work in slrn itself.
Old guy
>Michael Heiming wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc ?????? ???????? <arab...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> the best web site formarrige and frindship www.[xxxx].com????????
>I just kill the sender "arab...@gmail.com". It looks as if the
>problem is his char-set.
No, the problem is that the O/P has access to a computer. It's quite
obviously a spammer wasting oxygen. I've seem indications of similar
postings in other groups. though not the actual post thanks to some
line in my killfile.
Old guy