Need to make a DOS 6.22 boot usb

[Todd]

Hi All,

I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.

I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
but can't figure out how make it bootable on
a USB drive.

And, Free DOS crashes the flash update utility.

Many thanks,
-T

[Balwinder S Dheeman]

On 08/23/2014 06:41 AM, Todd wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
> it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.
>
> I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
> but can't figure out how make it bootable on
> a USB drive.

Try dd if=<path_to/>msdos_6.22.img of=/dev/sdX

where X is for the USB drive; make sure the MS-DOS image bootable.

> And, Free DOS crashes the flash update utility.

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[Todd]

On 08/22/2014 08:46 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> On 08/23/2014 06:41 AM, Todd wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
>> it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.
>>
>> I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
>> but can't figure out how make it bootable on
>> a USB drive.
>
> Try dd if=<path_to/>msdos_6.22.img of=/dev/sdX
>
> where X is for the USB drive; make sure the MS-DOS image bootable.
>
>> And, Free DOS crashes the flash update utility.
>

Tried that. Didn't work.

[Rich]

Todd <To...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Hi All,

> I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
> it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.

> I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
> but can't figure out how make it bootable on
> a USB drive.

1) Go to google
2) type in "installing dos 6.22 on usb flash drive" in search box
3) hit "search"
4) Open third search result
(https://blogs.oracle.com/dragonfly/entry/dos_bootable_usb_flash_drive)

[Todd]

"following steps where all done in Microsoft Windows XP"

Damn!

Any ideas how to do i in Linux?

[David W. Hodgins]

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:13:02 -0400, Todd <To...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 08/22/2014 08:46 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>> On 08/23/2014 06:41 AM, Todd wrote:
>>> I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
>>> it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.
>>> I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
>>> but can't figure out how make it bootable on
>>> a USB drive.
>>
>> Try dd if=<path_to/>msdos_6.22.img of=/dev/sdX
>> where X is for the USB drive; make sure the MS-DOS image bootable.

> Tried that. Didn't work.

A floppy disk doesn't have a mbr that's going to be bootable from
a usb stick. I'd try creating a fat16 primary partition on the
stick, with the bootable flag, and then copy the img to the partition,
instead of the device. I don't know if that will work, but I think
it should.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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[David W. Hodgins]

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:49:00 -0400, David W. Hodgins <dwho...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 00:13:02 -0400, Todd <To...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 08/22/2014 08:46 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>>> On 08/23/2014 06:41 AM, Todd wrote:
>>>> I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
>>>> it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.
>>>> I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
>>>> but can't figure out how make it bootable on
>>>> a USB drive.
>>>
>>> Try dd if=<path_to/>msdos_6.22.img of=/dev/sdX
>>> where X is for the USB drive; make sure the MS-DOS image bootable.
>
>> Tried that. Didn't work.
>
> A floppy disk doesn't have a mbr that's going to be bootable from
> a usb stick. I'd try creating a fat16 primary partition on the
> stick, with the bootable flag, and then copy the img to the partition,
> instead of the device. I don't know if that will work, but I think
> it should.

Forgot to add. For the mbr boot code, see
http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=88316

[Huibert Bol]

Todd <To...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
> it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.
>
> I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
> but can't figure out how make it bootable on
> a USB drive.

You could try using QEMU, just use a your DOS image instead of FreeDOS:
http://jachermocilla.blogspot.nl/2009/11/making-dos-bootable-usb-disk-from.html

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[Kenny McCormack]

In article <lt95j2$j9o$1...@dont-email.me>, Todd <To...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
...

>"following steps where all done in Microsoft Windows XP"
>
>Damn!
>
>Any ideas how to do i in Linux?

Actually, although not explicitly stated, the article implies that it
*was*, in fact, done under Linux, since the words after "Microsoft Windows
XP" were "virtual machine". So, you an infer (albeit at some risk), that
he was running some VM software under Linux.

Or, as another poster on this thread put it:

>You could try using QEMU, just use a your DOS image instead of FreeDOS:
>http://jachermocilla.blogspot.nl/2009/11/making-dos-bootable-usb-disk-from.html

FWIW, the VM software of choice these days for Linux users seems to be
(Sun/Oracle) VirtualBox, but of course QEMU is not to be denied. Also in
the FWIW category: I don't know if any of this helps you; you may not be
interested in *any* MS and/or Windows derived solutions.

Totally changing the subject: Have you considered network (PXE) booting
instead of USB? In my experience, more BIOSes support PXE than support USB
(I.e., I've seen BIOSes that have PXE and not USB, but never the converse).

I mention this because while I've never played with USB booting (and it
does seem from reading this thread that it is not at all trivial to setup),
I have done the PXE thing and it is trivial to boot DOS thereby (once you
have the PXE server itself setup). Granted, there are a lot of steps
involved in setting up a PXE server, but Knoppix comes with a ready-to-go
script that does it all for you, which is what I used when I did this.

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[Rich]

You use David's suggestion of this tool:
http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=88316

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 23/08/14 14:26, Rich wrote:
> Todd <To...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 08/22/2014 09:24 PM, Rich wrote:
>>> Todd <To...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>> I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
>>>> it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.
>>>

which suggests to me that you wont be able to boot into a virtual
machine to do the job as some are suggesting

Need bare metal

>>>> I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
>>>> but can't figure out how make it bootable on
>>>> a USB drive.
>>>

Is it a bootable disk?

>>> 1) Go to google
>>> 2) type in "installing dos 6.22 on usb flash drive" in search box
>>> 3) hit "search"
>>> 4) Open third search result
>>> (https://blogs.oracle.com/dragonfly/entry/dos_bootable_usb_flash_drive)
>>>
>
>> "following steps where all done in Microsoft Windows XP"
>
> You use David's suggestion of this tool:
> http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=88316
>

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[Michael Black]

How did you make the "image"?

If you just copied that floppy, stuff is probably missing so it won't
boot. You need an actual image of the boot disk, which includes some
hidden files, but also some code at the right place on the floppy that is
read and executed to pull in the rest.

That's how Linux floppies were made bootable, the boot code at on the
floppy. Even booting from a CDROM, the same arrangement is done, so one
can put a bootable floppy disk image onto a CDROM in the proper fashion
and boot from the CDROM.

I seem to recall a USB flash drive may be more complicated, certainly I've
fiddled around with doing that sort of thing and it didn't always work.

Michael

[Robert Heller]

A USB 'drive' is something like a 'real hard drive', but not exactly. It is
different from either a CD-ROM or a Floppy as far as the BIOS is concerned.

>
> Michael
>
>

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[Grant]

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:28:22 -0500, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:

>A USB 'drive' is something like a 'real hard drive', but not exactly. It is
>different from either a CD-ROM or a Floppy as far as the BIOS is concerned.
>

Interpretation is BIOS selectable in some cases, does USB use floppy,
CDROM or HDD emulation? In any case an older GA-G33M-DSS2R mobo I use
cannot boot from USB, so I discovered a workaround using non-msdos,
rather than burn a CD.

I'm inclined towards Henrik's solution, use native Linux.

Grant.

[faeychild]

Kenny McCormack wrote:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
~ Epicurus

Read Neville Goddard. He has a very interesting interpretation.


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[Jerry Peters]

Had to go look on another computer to find out how I built my last dos
boot disk for a bios upgrade. Freedos wouldn't even boot so I had to
use real dos.

Syslinux, www.syslinux.org specifically memdisk, although you'll
also need to research syslinux if you intend to use it to make the USB
stick bootable.

You can also use grub or grub2 to make the USB stick bootable if
you're more comfortable with those. I'd assume LILO will also work,
but I haven't touched it in years.

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

On 2014-08-24, faeychild wrote:
> Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
> Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
> Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
> Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
> Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
> ~ Epicurus
>
> Read Neville Goddard. He has a very interesting interpretation.

I couldn't find anything he said WRT that quotation.

The only statement of his I found that made sense is, "Faith is
believing what is unbelievable." He is totally unbelievable.

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[Kenny McCormack]

In article <9e9qcb-...@chris.tor>,

Which is a variation on Twain:

"Faith is believing things you know ain't so."

(I'm kidding about the "variation" comment; I have no idea who said it first)

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[Todd]

On 08/23/2014 07:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> Is it a bootable disk?
>

If I dd the image to a floppy (which I don't have anymore),
it will boot.

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[Todd]

On 08/23/2014 06:26 AM, Rich wrote:
> You use David's suggestion of this tool:
> http://www.filetransit.com/view.php?id=88316

I have tried ms-sys. It copies Free DOS stuff to
the boot sector. And, msdos 6.22 bitches about
it being the wrong version

[Todd]

On 08/22/2014 11:31 PM, Huibert Bol wrote:
> Todd <To...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I need to make a bootable USB drive with DOS 6.22 on
>> it to do a bunch of BIOS flash updates.
>>
>> I have an image of an old DOS 6.22 floppy drive,
>> but can't figure out how make it bootable on
>> a USB drive.
>
> You could try using QEMU, just use a your DOS image instead of FreeDOS:
> http://jachermocilla.blogspot.nl/2009/11/making-dos-bootable-usb-disk-from.html
>

msdos bitches about the files (free dos) on the boot sector not
being the right revision

[Todd]

Hi All,

Finally got one made up.

I booted into Win 7 PE and ran "rufus", which both
comes with msdos preloaded and runs in PE mode (thoughtful
of them).

And, I flashed my first BIOS yesterday.

This shouldn't be so hard to do in Linux.

Thanks to everyone who helped me with this.

-T