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J G Miller
Apr 16, 2013, 3:26:43 PM4/16/13
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On Tuesday, April 16th, 2013, at 18:45:41h +0000, Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
> If you really wanted to know how to bypass the login prompt I could tell
> you that /etc/inittab is the file to edit. But again, what to replace the
> login prompt with depends entirely upon the purpose of the box.
I guess you are not subscribed to either comp.os.linux.misc nor comp.os.linux.hardware
where Chris Glur (Avoi...@gmail.com) has already posted this and other
related questions and received numerous helpful and informative replies.
Subject: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut
From: Avoi...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:36:59 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <kjeqe9$lpn$1...@dont-email.me>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: can rPi drive PC-bidirectional Par-port?
From: Avoi...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 07:52:54 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject: How did tty booting work?
From: Avoi...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: HOW2 boot & run with mouse & NO kybrd?
From: Avoi...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:06:12 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
[In fact this last question was posted twice for double effect!]
As has happened on numerous occasions, he has become bored and disatisfied with
posting in those news groups, and as is usually apparent, has not taken any
notice of the answers which were posted there.
He appears to suffer from a very short attention span, and/or bad memory,
or maybe is suffering from Alzheimer's Disease, which could explain much of his
bizarre and erratic postings.
In replying to his posts it is imperative that you do not suggest he update
his software or buy new hardware because you will be severely reprimanded for
suggesting that he should "buy a new Ding Dong" (sic).
Ding-Dongs nie geredelik beskikbaar is in die Republiek van Suid-Afrika!
You have now been warned, so please do your bit for "Care in the Community",
and post appropriately.
> If you really wanted to know how to bypass the login prompt I could tell
> you that /etc/inittab is the file to edit. But again, what to replace the
> login prompt with depends entirely upon the purpose of the box.
I guess you are not subscribed to either comp.os.linux.misc nor comp.os.linux.hardware
where Chris Glur (Avoi...@gmail.com) has already posted this and other
related questions and received numerous helpful and informative replies.
Subject: plip: StdOut > ttyS0 & ttyS1 > StdOut
From: Avoi...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:36:59 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <kjeqe9$lpn$1...@dont-email.me>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: can rPi drive PC-bidirectional Par-port?
From: Avoi...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 07:52:54 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject: How did tty booting work?
From: Avoi...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: HOW2 boot & run with mouse & NO kybrd?
From: Avoi...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:06:12 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
[In fact this last question was posted twice for double effect!]
As has happened on numerous occasions, he has become bored and disatisfied with
posting in those news groups, and as is usually apparent, has not taken any
notice of the answers which were posted there.
He appears to suffer from a very short attention span, and/or bad memory,
or maybe is suffering from Alzheimer's Disease, which could explain much of his
bizarre and erratic postings.
In replying to his posts it is imperative that you do not suggest he update
his software or buy new hardware because you will be severely reprimanded for
suggesting that he should "buy a new Ding Dong" (sic).
Ding-Dongs nie geredelik beskikbaar is in die Republiek van Suid-Afrika!
You have now been warned, so please do your bit for "Care in the Community",
and post appropriately.
J G Miller
Apr 17, 2013, 8:52:33 AM4/17/13
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Mijnheer Glur,
Is there a good reason why today you are posting under the identity
of "Unknown <d...@gmail.com>" instead of the previous "Avoid9Pdf <Avoi...@gmail.com>"?
On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 07:29:04h +0000, Chris Glur wrote:
> You are starting from the rPi and considering how far FORWARD you can go;
> whereas I'm starting from a goal
Surely you must agree that common sense suggests that one first
identifies the goal and its requirement and then buys the Ding Dong
which is most suited to achieve that goal instead of just buying a
Ding Dong from the medicine man and trying in vain to get it to do
a job for which is not intended?
> and seeing how far I can simplify rPi's requirements to achieve the goal.
No you are not seeing that at all.
You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem which
you have artificially created and for a solution which you never
intend to implement.
--
"Of all the white groups that are in South Africa, it is only the
Afrikaners that are truly South Africans in the true sense of the word."
-- President Jacob Gedleyihlekisa Zuma, polygamist
The Natural Philosopher
Apr 17, 2013, 10:01:20 AM4/17/13
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On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
> which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
> never intend to implement.
Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
> which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
> never intend to implement.
'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers 'windows'.
e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
(PS linux can't do that).
--
Ineptocracy
(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.
Bobbie Sellers
Apr 17, 2013, 10:46:55 AM4/17/13
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On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
> > never intend to implement.
>
> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
> 'windows'.
>
> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
> (PS linux can't do that).
>
>
Did NP actually write that? I have at least half a dozen
> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
> > never intend to implement.
>
> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
> 'windows'.
>
> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
> (PS linux can't do that).
>
>
windows open on my machine under KDE.
Oh and no Windows or Linux or Mac can draw the curtains
and let outside light into a building. Not without a electo-mechanical
mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.
All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
this is the Natural Philosopher. Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
lair and is being food?
bliss
Aragorn
Apr 17, 2013, 10:55:33 AM4/17/13
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On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to
comp.os.linux.hardware...
> Mijnheer Glur,
^^^^^^^^
That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
> Is there a good reason why today you are posting under the identity
> of "Unknown <d...@gmail.com>" instead of the previous "Avoid9Pdf
> <Avoi...@gmail.com>"?
Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to
escape killfile entries.
> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem which
> you have artificially created and for a solution which you never
> intend to implement.
And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each
time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
things which he doesn't understand. And that is exactly /why/ Chris
Glur resides in so many killfiles.
--
= Aragorn =
GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
comp.os.linux.hardware...
> Mijnheer Glur,
^^^^^^^^
That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
> Is there a good reason why today you are posting under the identity
> of "Unknown <d...@gmail.com>" instead of the previous "Avoid9Pdf
> <Avoi...@gmail.com>"?
escape killfile entries.
> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem which
> you have artificially created and for a solution which you never
> intend to implement.
time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
things which he doesn't understand. And that is exactly /why/ Chris
Glur resides in so many killfiles.
--
= Aragorn =
GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net
J G Miller
Apr 17, 2013, 11:52:57 AM4/17/13
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Op woensdag, 17 april, 2013, om 16:55:33u +0200, schreef Aragorn:
> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to
> comp.os.linux.hardware...
>
>> Mijnheer Glur,
> ^^^^^^^^
>
> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
Eek, I have been rumbled!
So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?
According to Google Translate (which is obviously not perfect)
translating from Dutch "Mijnheer" to Afrikaans gives the same word.
Perhaps, as a mark of respect, he should be addressed as Baas Chris?
> Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to
> escape killfile entries.
And can you blame him for doing that? ;)
> And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each
> time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
> things which he doesn't understand.
The thing is though, if you look back at the postings from say 10 years
ago in 2003, made under the name of Chris Glur, they were very straight
forward and up front and not of the trolling variety. And Chris Glur
has made contributions to free software projects in the distant past.
So I am not 100% convinced that Chris Glur is posting with an intent of
trolling although it does *appear* to be of the order of 60%-70% that
that is the case.
But appearance are sometimes deceptive and as they say
"the owls are not what they seem." (And just to avoid giving
any wrong impression I have never watched that TV show except
for the opening credits.)
Of course there is always the possibility of identity theft and there
is a malicious troll who has assumed the identity of Chris Glur for
the purpose of denigrating his name?
> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to
> comp.os.linux.hardware...
>
>> Mijnheer Glur,
> ^^^^^^^^
>
> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?
According to Google Translate (which is obviously not perfect)
translating from Dutch "Mijnheer" to Afrikaans gives the same word.
Perhaps, as a mark of respect, he should be addressed as Baas Chris?
> Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to
> escape killfile entries.
> And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each
> time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
> things which he doesn't understand.
ago in 2003, made under the name of Chris Glur, they were very straight
forward and up front and not of the trolling variety. And Chris Glur
has made contributions to free software projects in the distant past.
So I am not 100% convinced that Chris Glur is posting with an intent of
trolling although it does *appear* to be of the order of 60%-70% that
that is the case.
But appearance are sometimes deceptive and as they say
"the owls are not what they seem." (And just to avoid giving
any wrong impression I have never watched that TV show except
for the opening credits.)
Of course there is always the possibility of identity theft and there
is a malicious troll who has assumed the identity of Chris Glur for
the purpose of denigrating his name?
Aragorn
Apr 17, 2013, 12:09:31 PM4/17/13
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[Follow-up set to alt.os.linux.debian]
On Wednesday 17 April 2013 17:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to
in Afrikaans and is most commonly substituted by "y", which is
historically more correct and is pronounced the same way.
In Dutch, one can also say "meneer" instead of "mijnheer", and I presume
that the word also exists in Afrikaans. Mind you, I do speak a fair
amount of Afrikaans, but it is not my native tongue either and so I
don't know everything either. ;-)
> Perhaps, as a mark of respect, he should be addressed as Baas Chris?
Heh, that's a good one. :p
>> Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to
>> escape killfile entries.
>
> And can you blame him for doing that? ;)
It is a form of nymshifting, and nymshifting in order to elude
killfilters is trollish behavior.
>> And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each
>> time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
>> things which he doesn't understand.
>
> The thing is though, if you look back at the postings from say 10
> years ago in 2003, made under the name of Chris Glur, they were very
> straight forward and up front and not of the trolling variety. And
> Chris Glur has made contributions to free software projects in the
> distant past.
I am aware of that, yes, even if only because that is what I've seen
other people state about him.
> So I am not 100% convinced that Chris Glur is posting with an intent
> of trolling although it does *appear* to be of the order of 60%-70%
> that that is the case.
I don't think it would be his _intent_ to troll, but in the end, that
/is/ what he's doing.
> Of course there is always the possibility of identity theft and there
> is a malicious troll who has assumed the identity of Chris Glur for
> the purpose of denigrating his name?
That is possible. However, my personal take on this is that Chris Glur
has some serious personality issues. Maybe he has not always been like
this, and maybe there is a sound medical reason for his change in
behavior and perception. I don't know.
All I see is the end result, which is that Chris Glur is a dense,
ungrateful and at times very rude person who repeatedly changes his
posting identity via throwaway e-mail addresses because he knows he gets
killfiled.
On Wednesday 17 April 2013 17:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to
comp.os.linux.hardware...
> Op woensdag, 17 april, 2013, om 16:55:33u +0200, schreef Aragorn:
>
>> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following
>> to comp.os.linux.hardware...
>>
>>> Mijnheer Glur,
>> ^^^^^^^^
>>
>> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
>
> Eek, I have been rumbled!
>
> So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?
>
> According to Google Translate (which is obviously not perfect)
> translating from Dutch "Mijnheer" to Afrikaans gives the same word.
Well, it is possible, but the compound vowel "ij" is not normally used
> Op woensdag, 17 april, 2013, om 16:55:33u +0200, schreef Aragorn:
>
>> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following
>> to comp.os.linux.hardware...
>>
>>> Mijnheer Glur,
>> ^^^^^^^^
>>
>> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
>
> Eek, I have been rumbled!
>
> So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?
>
> According to Google Translate (which is obviously not perfect)
> translating from Dutch "Mijnheer" to Afrikaans gives the same word.
in Afrikaans and is most commonly substituted by "y", which is
historically more correct and is pronounced the same way.
In Dutch, one can also say "meneer" instead of "mijnheer", and I presume
that the word also exists in Afrikaans. Mind you, I do speak a fair
amount of Afrikaans, but it is not my native tongue either and so I
don't know everything either. ;-)
> Perhaps, as a mark of respect, he should be addressed as Baas Chris?
>> Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to
>> escape killfile entries.
>
> And can you blame him for doing that? ;)
killfilters is trollish behavior.
>> And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each
>> time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
>> things which he doesn't understand.
>
> The thing is though, if you look back at the postings from say 10
> years ago in 2003, made under the name of Chris Glur, they were very
> straight forward and up front and not of the trolling variety. And
> Chris Glur has made contributions to free software projects in the
> distant past.
other people state about him.
> So I am not 100% convinced that Chris Glur is posting with an intent
> of trolling although it does *appear* to be of the order of 60%-70%
> that that is the case.
/is/ what he's doing.
> Of course there is always the possibility of identity theft and there
> is a malicious troll who has assumed the identity of Chris Glur for
> the purpose of denigrating his name?
has some serious personality issues. Maybe he has not always been like
this, and maybe there is a sound medical reason for his change in
behavior and perception. I don't know.
All I see is the end result, which is that Chris Glur is a dense,
ungrateful and at times very rude person who repeatedly changes his
posting identity via throwaway e-mail addresses because he knows he gets
killfiled.
Joe
Apr 17, 2013, 1:02:59 PM4/17/13
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:01:20 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
> > You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
> > never intend to implement.
>
> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer
> is 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
> 'windows'.
>
One would be hard put to find any version of Windows which would run on
The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
> > You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
> > never intend to implement.
>
> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer
> is 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
> 'windows'.
>
a Pi. It's ARM, for a start, and I cannot imagine Win 8 RT or whatever
it's currently called running off an SD card in 512M of RAM. XP just
about runs comfortably in that.
--
Joe
Unknown
Apr 17, 2013, 1:29:46 PM4/17/13
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:52:33 +0000, J G Miller wrote:
> Mijnheer Glur,
>
> Is there a good reason why today you are posting under the identity of
> "Unknown <d...@gmail.com>" instead of the previous "Avoid9Pdf
> <Avoi...@gmail.com>"?
>
> On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 07:29:04h +0000, Chris Glur wrote:
>
>> You are starting from the rPi and considering how far FORWARD you can
>> go; whereas I'm starting from a goal
>
> Surely you must agree that common sense suggests that one first
> identifies the goal and its requirement and then buys the Ding Dong
> which is most suited to achieve that goal instead of just buying a Ding
> Dong from the medicine man and trying in vain to get it to do a job for
> which is not intended?
>
>> and seeing how far I can simplify rPi's requirements to achieve the
>> goal.
>
> No you are not seeing that at all.
>
> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem which
> you have artificially created and for a solution which you never intend
> to implement.
OK, see if you kiddies can follow this:
> Mijnheer Glur,
>
> Is there a good reason why today you are posting under the identity of
> "Unknown <d...@gmail.com>" instead of the previous "Avoid9Pdf
> <Avoi...@gmail.com>"?
>
> On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 07:29:04h +0000, Chris Glur wrote:
>
>> You are starting from the rPi and considering how far FORWARD you can
>> go; whereas I'm starting from a goal
>
> Surely you must agree that common sense suggests that one first
> identifies the goal and its requirement and then buys the Ding Dong
> which is most suited to achieve that goal instead of just buying a Ding
> Dong from the medicine man and trying in vain to get it to do a job for
> which is not intended?
>
>> and seeing how far I can simplify rPi's requirements to achieve the
>> goal.
>
> No you are not seeing that at all.
>
> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem which
> you have artificially created and for a solution which you never intend
> to implement.
rPi is a minimalist/credit-card-sized computer;
if you were a racing-cycle enthusiast you'd be interested in some
extreme criteria, which the normal obsese Californian would consider
'you never intend to implement';
AFAIK the need to login, is the bottleneck, which prevents the rpi from
being used without a keyboard. Once I've logged in, I can design a setup
to run via mouse only.
Obviously there are MANY situations where some people would want to just
have a rPi, mouse, mini-PSU in their pocket, and be just able to plug the
RCA wire into the PAL-TV and fly.
BTW do you kiddies realise that going-in-foot-ball-herds, is what prevents
you from being able to think out of the box? Which is why the
herd-mentality promoted by FB/twitter is going to give bad results for the
future.
And since, like pre-adolescent girlies, you are all obsesed with names,
and personalities, why don't you move to the celebrities and social fora
and leave this for the scientists & engineers.
Keith Keller
Apr 17, 2013, 2:11:50 PM4/17/13
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restored to be sure to reach all four groups]
On 2013-04-17, Aragorn <str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
>
> All I see is the end result, which is that Chris Glur is a dense,
> ungrateful and at times very rude person who repeatedly changes his
> posting identity via throwaway e-mail addresses because he knows he gets
> killfiled.
This is a very astute summary of the OP's posting habits. I hope that
all regular readers of all four newsgroups will take that into
consideration when posting a response to him.
--keith
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On 2013-04-17, Aragorn <str...@telenet.be.invalid> wrote:
>
> All I see is the end result, which is that Chris Glur is a dense,
> ungrateful and at times very rude person who repeatedly changes his
> posting identity via throwaway e-mail addresses because he knows he gets
> killfiled.
all regular readers of all four newsgroups will take that into
consideration when posting a response to him.
--keith
--
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The Natural Philosopher
Apr 17, 2013, 2:19:43 PM4/17/13
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On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
>> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>> > never intend to implement.
>>
>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>> 'windows'.
>>
>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>
>>
>
> Did NP actually write that?
I did.
> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
>> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>> > never intend to implement.
>>
>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>> 'windows'.
>>
>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>
>>
>
> Did NP actually write that?
> I have at least half a dozen
> windows open on my machine under KDE.
> Oh and no Windows or Linux or Mac can draw the curtains
> and let outside light into a building. Not without a electo-mechanical
> mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.
instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
> All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
> this is the Natural Philosopher. Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
> lair and is being food?
>
> bliss
The Natural Philosopher
Apr 17, 2013, 2:20:51 PM4/17/13
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On 17/04/13 16:52, J G Miller wrote:
> Op woensdag, 17 april, 2013, om 16:55:33u +0200, schreef Aragorn:
>
>> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to
>> comp.os.linux.hardware...
>>
>>> Mijnheer Glur,
>> ^^^^^^^^
>>
>> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
> Eek, I have been rumbled!
>
> So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?
Mynheer IIRC.
> Op woensdag, 17 april, 2013, om 16:55:33u +0200, schreef Aragorn:
>
>> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 14:52, J G Miller conveyed the following to
>> comp.os.linux.hardware...
>>
>>> Mijnheer Glur,
>> ^^^^^^^^
>>
>> That is Dutch, J.G., not Afrikaans. ;-)
> Eek, I have been rumbled!
>
> So what would one say/write in Afrikaans for "Mijnheer"?
> According to Google Translate (which is obviously not perfect)
> translating from Dutch "Mijnheer" to Afrikaans gives the same word.
>
> Perhaps, as a mark of respect, he should be addressed as Baas Chris?
>> Chris Glur regularly changes his sender address, presumably so as to
>> escape killfile entries.
> And can you blame him for doing that? ;)
>
>> And he has been doing this repeatedly for several years already, each
>> time biting the hands that feed him and criticizing or whining about
>> things which he doesn't understand.
> The thing is though, if you look back at the postings from say 10 years
> ago in 2003, made under the name of Chris Glur, they were very straight
> forward and up front and not of the trolling variety. And Chris Glur
> has made contributions to free software projects in the distant past.
>
> So I am not 100% convinced that Chris Glur is posting with an intent of
> trolling although it does *appear* to be of the order of 60%-70% that
> that is the case.
>
> But appearance are sometimes deceptive and as they say
> "the owls are not what they seem." (And just to avoid giving
> any wrong impression I have never watched that TV show except
> for the opening credits.)
>
> Of course there is always the possibility of identity theft and there
> is a malicious troll who has assumed the identity of Chris Glur for
> the purpose of denigrating his name?
Bobbie Sellers
Apr 17, 2013, 2:46:57 PM4/17/13
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On 04/17/2013 11:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
>>> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>> > never intend to implement.
>>>
>>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
>>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>>> 'windows'.
>>>
>>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did NP actually write that?
> I did.
>
>> I have at least half a dozen
>> windows open on my machine under KDE.
>
> ah, but they don let light in do they?
As a matter of fact they let out enough light that I have
> On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
>>> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>> > never intend to implement.
>>>
>>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
>>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>>> 'windows'.
>>>
>>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did NP actually write that?
> I did.
>
>> I have at least half a dozen
>> windows open on my machine under KDE.
>
> ah, but they don let light in do they?
to lock the screen at night.
>
>> Oh and no Windows or Linux or Mac can draw the curtains
>> and let outside light into a building. Not without a electo-mechanical
>> mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.
>
> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
Well XP and Vista never did that for me. I get a little thrill
>> Oh and no Windows or Linux or Mac can draw the curtains
>> and let outside light into a building. Not without a electo-mechanical
>> mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.
>
> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
when I boot up Linux and it is still working.
>
>> All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
>> this is the Natural Philosopher. Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
>> lair and is being food?
>>
>
> nah, just a wry comment which seems to have whooshed past you.
>
>> bliss
You are food, and just don't know it.
>> All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
>> this is the Natural Philosopher. Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
>> lair and is being food?
>>
>
> nah, just a wry comment which seems to have whooshed past you.
>
>> bliss
As for wry comments getting past me maybe I was moving
too fast. Wry is hard to do in this world and on Usenet harder.
G'day.
bliss
J G Miller
Apr 17, 2013, 3:35:56 PM4/17/13
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On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 19:20:51h +0100,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Mynheer IIRC.
It seems that Google Translate for Afrikaans is just not up to standard
because it does not recognize that spelling, but Google ZA search
finds lots of instances of that.
> Durs Chirs.
Erm? I cannot find anything relevant with Google ZA for the word "durs".
The only meaning which seems to have some connection with "durs" is hard???
Can you explain the meaning then?
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> Mynheer IIRC.
It seems that Google Translate for Afrikaans is just not up to standard
because it does not recognize that spelling, but Google ZA search
finds lots of instances of that.
> Durs Chirs.
Erm? I cannot find anything relevant with Google ZA for the word "durs".
The only meaning which seems to have some connection with "durs" is hard???
Can you explain the meaning then?
The Natural Philosopher
Apr 17, 2013, 3:54:36 PM4/17/13
to
On 17/04/13 19:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 04/17/2013 11:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>>>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
>>>> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>>> > never intend to implement.
>>>>
>>>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the
>>>> answer is
>>>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>>>> 'windows'.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>>>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did NP actually write that?
>> I did.
>>
>>> I have at least half a dozen
>>> windows open on my machine under KDE.
>>
>> ah, but they don let light in do they?
> As a matter of fact they let out enough light that I have
> to lock the screen at night.
IN is not the same as OUT
> On 04/17/2013 11:19 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 15:46, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>>>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
>>>> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>>>> > never intend to implement.
>>>>
>>>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the
>>>> answer is
>>>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>>>> 'windows'.
>>>>
>>>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>>>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did NP actually write that?
>> I did.
>>
>>> I have at least half a dozen
>>> windows open on my machine under KDE.
>>
>> ah, but they don let light in do they?
> As a matter of fact they let out enough light that I have
> to lock the screen at night.
>>
>>> Oh and no Windows or Linux or Mac can draw the curtains
>>> and let outside light into a building. Not without a electo-mechanical
>>> mechanism interfaced to the computer and to the curtains.
>>
>> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
>> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
>
> Well XP and Vista never did that for me. I get a little thrill
> when I boot up Linux and it is still working.
upgrade
>>
>>> All that X-posting looks like a Troll to me so I really doubt
>>> this is the Natural Philosopher. Maybe he got sucked into the troll's
>>> lair and is being food?
>>>
>>
>> nah, just a wry comment which seems to have whooshed past you.
>>
>>> bliss
>
> You are food, and just don't know it.
> As for wry comments getting past me maybe I was moving
> too fast. Wry is hard to do in this world and on Usenet harder.
>
> G'day.
> bliss
The Natural Philosopher
Apr 17, 2013, 3:57:53 PM4/17/13
to
it out for me on my sojourn there.
Ah google has it. Doos,. Chris Doos.
J G Miller
Apr 17, 2013, 4:34:15 PM4/17/13
to
On Wednesday, April 17th, 2013, at 17:29:46h +0000,
Baas Chris Glur chided:
> OK, see if you kiddies can follow this:
Well we may have to think very hard and it might be quite tiring,
but here goes ...
> rPi is a minimalist/credit-card-sized computer;
Well yes, any fule kno that.
> if you were a racing-cycle enthusiast you'd be interested in some
> extreme criteria
You mean like Lance Armstrong?
> which the normal obsese Californian
Yes you are correct -- 61,4% of Californians are obese according to
<http://www.belly-fat-health-news.com/obesity-in-California.html>
> would consider 'you never intend to implement';
How many obese Californians have bought a rPi?
> AFAIK
Are you here to continue in your "as far as I know" ignorance,
or do you want to learn?
> the need to login is the bottleneck
No it is not.
With most display managers it is very easy to configure them to use
an autologin mode to a predefined userid, so there is no need to
enter any password.
If you want autologin to a particular account on a virtual console
TTY, this is also simple to achieve by replacing the getty with mingetty
and configuring it for autologin.
See the details at
<http://linux.koolsolutions.COM/2009/04/30/autologin-linux-console-mode/>
But in another thread on the same topic in comp.os.linux.misc and
comp.os.linux.hardware, John Hasler has provided you with an even
simpler rPi specific method way of doing this without having to
install a different getty, as explained at
<http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>
But do you honestly want an answer to your question, or now having
been presented with an answer, are you going to resort to an
irrational outburst of having to get a new Ding Dong?
> which prevents the rpi from being used without a keyboard.
No it does not.
People have been using rPi as a media center with XBMC with autologin
and no keyboard and no mouse for some time now, details at
<http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi>
<http://lifehacker.com/5929913/build-a-xbmc-media-center-with-a-35-raspberry-pi>
QUOTE
A remote control:
I you don't want to use a mouse and keyboard to control
your media center once its set up, you'll need a remote.
UNQUOTE
But now when faced with real life accomplishments of other people doing
what you claim you are trying to do, are you now going to ignore the
facts and repost the same questions again in a slightly different form
in other newsgroups in a few days to a week's time?
> BTW do you kiddies realise that going-in-foot-ball-herds, is what
> prevents you from being able to think out of the box?
Yes, but herds of warthogs and wildebeest are even worse though.
Baas Chris Glur chided:
> OK, see if you kiddies can follow this:
but here goes ...
> rPi is a minimalist/credit-card-sized computer;
> if you were a racing-cycle enthusiast you'd be interested in some
> extreme criteria
> which the normal obsese Californian
<http://www.belly-fat-health-news.com/obesity-in-California.html>
> would consider 'you never intend to implement';
> AFAIK
Are you here to continue in your "as far as I know" ignorance,
or do you want to learn?
> the need to login is the bottleneck
No it is not.
With most display managers it is very easy to configure them to use
an autologin mode to a predefined userid, so there is no need to
enter any password.
If you want autologin to a particular account on a virtual console
TTY, this is also simple to achieve by replacing the getty with mingetty
and configuring it for autologin.
See the details at
<http://linux.koolsolutions.COM/2009/04/30/autologin-linux-console-mode/>
But in another thread on the same topic in comp.os.linux.misc and
comp.os.linux.hardware, John Hasler has provided you with an even
simpler rPi specific method way of doing this without having to
install a different getty, as explained at
<http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>
But do you honestly want an answer to your question, or now having
been presented with an answer, are you going to resort to an
irrational outburst of having to get a new Ding Dong?
> which prevents the rpi from being used without a keyboard.
People have been using rPi as a media center with XBMC with autologin
and no keyboard and no mouse for some time now, details at
<http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi>
<http://lifehacker.com/5929913/build-a-xbmc-media-center-with-a-35-raspberry-pi>
QUOTE
A remote control:
I you don't want to use a mouse and keyboard to control
your media center once its set up, you'll need a remote.
UNQUOTE
But now when faced with real life accomplishments of other people doing
what you claim you are trying to do, are you now going to ignore the
facts and repost the same questions again in a slightly different form
in other newsgroups in a few days to a week's time?
> BTW do you kiddies realise that going-in-foot-ball-herds, is what
> prevents you from being able to think out of the box?
Octothorpe
Apr 17, 2013, 6:04:14 PM4/17/13
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:46:55 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
>> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>> > never intend to implement.
>>
>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>> 'windows'.
>>
>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>
>>
>>
> Did NP actually write that? I have at least half a dozen
> windows open on my machine under KDE.
> Oh and no Windows or Linux or Mac can draw the curtains
> and let outside light into a building.
Storm Linux, Close the windows Storm is coming......
> On 04/17/2013 07:01 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 17/04/13 13:52, J G Miller wrote:
>>> You are pestering other people to provide an answer to a problem
>> > which you have artificially created and for a solution which you
>> > never intend to implement.
>>
>> Standard wintroll tactic. Ask a stupid question to which the answer is
>> 'windows' and then complain that no on on the linux group answers
>> 'windows'.
>>
>> e.g. What is the standard way to let light into a building?
>> (PS linux can't do that).
>>
>>
>>
> Did NP actually write that? I have at least half a dozen
> windows open on my machine under KDE.
> Oh and no Windows or Linux or Mac can draw the curtains
> and let outside light into a building.
Jasen Betts
Apr 18, 2013, 4:46:46 AM4/18/13
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On 2013-04-17, J G Miller <mil...@yoyo.ORG> wrote:
> But in another thread on the same topic in comp.os.linux.misc and
> comp.os.linux.hardware, John Hasler has provided you with an even
> simpler rPi specific method way of doing this without having to
> install a different getty, as explained at
>
> <http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>
that's not particulary RPI specific, it'll work on any system using
> But in another thread on the same topic in comp.os.linux.misc and
> comp.os.linux.hardware, John Hasler has provided you with an even
> simpler rPi specific method way of doing this without having to
> install a different getty, as explained at
>
> <http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>
sysv-init, if you're not using a serial port you can avoid getty.
>> which prevents the rpi from being used without a keyboard.
>
> No it does not.
--
⚂⚃ 100% natural
J G Miller
Apr 18, 2013, 6:30:56 AM4/18/13
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On Thursday, April 18th, 2013, at 08:46:46h +0000, Jasen Betts advised:
>> John Hasler has provided you with an even simpler rPi specific
>> method way of doing this without having to install a different
>> getty, as explained at
>>
>> <http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>
>
> that's not particulary RPI specific
True, I should have written:
a solution provided specifically in the context of Debian on rPi.
> it'll work on any system using sysv-init
True, but how many [major] distributions are still using sysv-init?
Debian yes, PCLinuxOS yes, Puppy yes, but not Arch Linux, nor Fedora,
nor Mageia, nor Manjaro, nor Mint, nor openSuSE, nor Ubuntu ...
And that is just the top ten at DistroWatch.
>> John Hasler has provided you with an even simpler rPi specific
>> method way of doing this without having to install a different
>> getty, as explained at
>>
>> <http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>
>
> that's not particulary RPI specific
a solution provided specifically in the context of Debian on rPi.
> it'll work on any system using sysv-init
Debian yes, PCLinuxOS yes, Puppy yes, but not Arch Linux, nor Fedora,
nor Mageia, nor Manjaro, nor Mint, nor openSuSE, nor Ubuntu ...
And that is just the top ten at DistroWatch.
The Natural Philosopher
Apr 18, 2013, 6:50:09 AM4/18/13
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/etc/init/tty[n].conf.
::::::::::::::
tty1.conf
::::::::::::::
# tty1 - getty
#
# This service maintains a getty on tty1 from the point the system is
# started until it is shut down again.
start on stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[2345] and (
not-container or
container CONTAINER=lxc or
container CONTAINER=lxc-libvirt)
stop on runlevel [!2345]
respawn
exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
all that is needed is to replace the last line
exec /bin/login -f pi tty1 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1
Or similar.
Not having a pi running mint, I cant test it.
Jasen Betts
Apr 18, 2013, 7:33:56 AM4/18/13
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On 2013-04-18, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> And that is just the top ten at DistroWatch.
> looking at MINT13 here, the exact same configurations exist under
> /etc/init/tty[n].conf.
yeah, that basic approach isn't tied to sysv-init.
>>
>> And that is just the top ten at DistroWatch.
> looking at MINT13 here, the exact same configurations exist under
> /etc/init/tty[n].conf.
upstart splits each inittab line out into its own file
and gives expanded capabilities. I suspect something similar is
possible under systemd but I haven't looked.
>::::::::::::::
> tty1.conf
>::::::::::::::
[...]
>
> Not having a pi running mint, I cant test it.
>
You could change the username and run it on an ordinary computer.
> Not having a pi running mint, I cant test it.
>
I think you need to say "stop tty1;start tty1" to activate the changes
without rebooting.
--
⚂⚃ 100% natural
cipher
Apr 18, 2013, 9:12:28 PM4/18/13
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:46:57 -0700, Bobbie Sellers Inscribed upon the
Golden Tablets of Usenet thusly:
It's OK not to get everything, to sometimes miss a point.
Happens to us all sometimes. Better to admit it, have a chuckle and move
on...
> G'day.
> bliss
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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)-(0^^0)-( Bungmunch U./AHM Memorial Institute of F@x0r1n6/Dean
)/ \\// \( Colonel/1st Virginia Volunteers/CeSium Brigade
(oo) Registered Linux User #556617
/ ~~ \ Empire of APDD/#6-5p07/VLNOC Cohort #1407
o@o o@o Keeper of the alt.CeSium FAQ
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Golden Tablets of Usenet thusly:
Happens to us all sometimes. Better to admit it, have a chuckle and move
on...
> G'day.
> bliss
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
)\ ( ) /( Cipher/Proud Member, Netscum Alumni Association
)-(0^^0)-( Bungmunch U./AHM Memorial Institute of F@x0r1n6/Dean
)/ \\// \( Colonel/1st Virginia Volunteers/CeSium Brigade
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mike
Apr 18, 2013, 11:42:24 PM4/18/13
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On 4/18/2013 6:12 PM, cipher wrote:
>>> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
>>> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
I find that hard to believe.
>>> Are you sure? I thought Windows did everything, including give you an
>>> instant orgasm every time you switched it on?
If that program existed, it would
never make it out of 'bater test.
Michael Black
Apr 18, 2013, 11:54:13 PM4/18/13
to
uses Windows.
Michael
Unknown
Apr 25, 2013, 8:17:16 AM4/25/13
to
connect to a TV. No network -- server.
Unknown
Apr 30, 2013, 12:49:35 AM4/30/13
to
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:34:15 +0000, J G Miller wrote:
>> the need to login is the bottleneck
>
> No it is not.
>
> With most display managers it is very easy to configure them to use an
> autologin mode to a predefined userid, so there is no need to enter any
> password.
>
> If you want autologin to a particular account on a virtual console TTY,
> this is also simple to achieve by replacing the getty with mingetty and
> configuring it for autologin.
>
> See the details at
>
> <http://linux.koolsolutions.COM/2009/04/30/autologin-linux-console-
mode/>
>
>
> But in another thread on the same topic in comp.os.linux.misc and
> comp.os.linux.hardware, John Hasler has provided you with an even
> simpler rPi specific method way of doing this without having to install
> a different getty, as explained at
>
> <http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>
>
>> the need to login is the bottleneck
>
> No it is not.
>
> With most display managers it is very easy to configure them to use an
> autologin mode to a predefined userid, so there is no need to enter any
> password.
>
> If you want autologin to a particular account on a virtual console TTY,
> this is also simple to achieve by replacing the getty with mingetty and
> configuring it for autologin.
>
> See the details at
>
> <http://linux.koolsolutions.COM/2009/04/30/autologin-linux-console-
mode/>
>
>
> But in another thread on the same topic in comp.os.linux.misc and
> comp.os.linux.hardware, John Hasler has provided you with an even
> simpler rPi specific method way of doing this without having to install
> a different getty, as explained at
>
> <http://elinux.ORG/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login>
>
>> which prevents the rpi from being used without a keyboard.
>
> No it does not.
>
> People have been using rPi as a media center with XBMC with autologin
> and no keyboard and no mouse for some time now, details at
>
> <http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi>
>
> <http://lifehacker.com/5929913/build-a-xbmc-media-center-with-a-35-
raspberry-pi>
>
OK, thanks for these pointers.
>
> No it does not.
>
> People have been using rPi as a media center with XBMC with autologin
> and no keyboard and no mouse for some time now, details at
>
> <http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi>
>
> <http://lifehacker.com/5929913/build-a-xbmc-media-center-with-a-35-
raspberry-pi>
>
Yes there are several articles on fiddling <near init> and many may work
depending on the specific configuration of the particular system.
> QUOTE
>
> A remote control:
>
> I you don't want to use a mouse and keyboard to control your media
> center once its set up, you'll need a remote.
>
> UNQUOTE
>
> But now when faced with real life accomplishments of other people doing
> what you claim you are trying to do, are you now going to ignore the
> facts and repost the same questions again in a slightly different form
> in other newsgroups in a few days to a week's time?
>
environment.
I'm still working on projects that I initiated decades ago. Always date
your records.
This little project, which involves init, has an interesting [for me]
side benefit:
http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/11/12/initramfs-ramfs-tmpfs-
compressed-image/
$ mkdir -p /tmp/initramfs
$ cd /tmp/initramfs
$ cp /boot/initrd.img-2.6.14-1-686 initramfs.gz <- replace with:
-> cp /mnt/LennyP35/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-486 initramfs.gz
$ gzip -d initramfs.gz
$ cpio -i < initramfs
== 28632 blocks
50243 blocks
rm initramfs
-> ls == .....init....
AFAIK /tmp/initramfs now has a <mininSystem> with its own init.
Of course the REAL init is binary, [but since it only runs once, need not
be IMO]
so you can't easily see its algorithm; but /tmp/initramfsinit ==
#!/bin/sh
echo "Loading, please wait..."
[ -d /dev ] || mkdir -m 0755 /dev
[ -d /root ] || mkdir -m 0700 /root
...
# Parse command line options
for x in $(cat /proc/cmdline); do
case $x in
init=*)
init=${x#init=}
...
# Move virtual filesystems over to the real filesystem
mount -n -o move /sys ${rootmnt}/sys
mount -n -o move /proc ${rootmnt}/proc
...
# Search for valid init
if [ -z "${init}" ] ; then
for init in /sbin/init /etc/init /bin/init /bin/sh; do
if [ ! -x "${rootmnt}${init}" ]; then
continue
...
# No init on rootmount
if [ ! -x "${rootmnt}${init}" ]; then
panic "No init found. Try passing init= bootarg."
fi
...
# Chain to real filesystem
maybe_break init
exec run-init ${rootmnt} ${init} "$@" <${rootmnt}/dev/console >${rootmnt}/
dev/console
panic "Could not execute run-init."
=========EOF============
I find it interesting and reasuring to see some actual code for `init`.
I'm still looking for the code for 'pivot'.
===
PS. how do I get a 800 char message/question to someone's twitter:URL ?
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