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Stefan Patric

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:45:25 PM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:57:54 +0000, Lurker wrote:

> I had a new computer built using the above mother board, currently
> running Slackware 12.2. I had hoped that it being new it would be
> 'future proofed', to a greater or lesser degree. However on installing
> Slackware 13 I found that neither the on-board graphics nor the on-board
> ethernet connection would function. I find it strange that the kernel in
> 12.2 manages to get all the components of this motherboard to work yet
> the newer 2.6.29.6 Kernel doesn't.
>
> I am looking for a graphic and network card that will function with the
> 2.6.29.6 Kernel. I am however curious as to why the older one works the
> full range of on-board functions and a newer one won't!

Have you contacted Slackware about the problem and any solutions? That
would have been the first place I would have gone to. But it does sound
strange. I just upgraded to Fedora 12 on my 64-bit system that has
around a 4 year old Abit MB with onboard LAN and sound. Never had any
hardware issues, and I started on it with Fedora Core 6.

Could be you only need to run a particular kernel module. Slackware's
"basic" install kernel is fairly generic. Contact Slackware.


Stef

Vlad_Inhaler

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:41:10 AM12/14/09
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On Dec 13, 12:57 pm, Lurker <brokenj...@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> I had a new computer built using the above mother board, currently running
> Slackware 12.2. I had hoped that it being new it would be 'future
> proofed', to a greater or lesser degree. However on installing Slackware
> 13 I found that neither the on-board graphics nor the on-board ethernet
> connection would function. I find it strange that the kernel in 12.2
> manages to get all the components of this motherboard to work yet the
> newer 2.6.29.6 Kernel doesn't.
>
> I am looking for a graphic and network card that will function with the
> 2.6.29.6 Kernel. I am however curious as to why the older one works the
> full range of on-board functions and a newer one won't!
> --
> Lurker

Looking the beast up:
- Integrated Nvidia® Geforce®7Series Shader model3.0 DirectX 9
graphics processor,
Dual VGA output support: RGB & DVI / RGB & HDMI
* Due to the chipset limitation, simultaneous output for DVI and
HDMI is not supported.
- PHY Gigabit LAN

The expansion slots are:
1 x PCIe x16
1 x PCIe x1
2 x PCI

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Vlad_Inhaler

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:23:50 AM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 2:53 pm, Lurker <brokenj...@linuxmail.org> wrote:

> Vlad_Inhaler andrew.willi...@t-online.de Monday 14 Dec 2009 07:41 wrote:
>
> > Looking the beast up:
> > - Integrated Nvidia® Geforce®7Series Shader model3.0 DirectX 9
> > graphics processor,
> > Dual VGA output support: RGB & DVI / RGB & HDMI
> > * Due to the chipset limitation, simultaneous output for DVI and
> > HDMI is not supported.
> > - PHY Gigabit LAN
>
> > The expansion slots are:
> > 1 x PCIe x16
> > 1 x PCIe x1
> > 2 x PCI
>
> I'm afraid that I have no idea what any of that means, or if there is a
> solution to it.
> --
> Lurker

The point is, that is the hardware which is not running for you - the
particular hardware which the newest Slackware does not seem to
support.
Network cards are cheap, if you have one spare you could put into one
of your PCI slots until you get the problem sorted.
The video card is a larger problem. Yours appears to be a year or two
old and I really don't see why you should be having a problem. Nvidia
(and ATI, Intel) cards are pretty well supported. Where I have a
problem is with a Via video card but even that works (sort of) under
Opensuse, which is what I use.

Got that one, googling "linux Geforce 7 Slackware" got me
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-installation-40/cant-start-x-with-slackware-13-on-hp-pavilion-dv9000-nvidia-757540/
- known problem, with a fix. I'll leave the other one to you.

Darren Salt

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Dec 14, 2009, 10:35:59 AM12/14/09
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I demand that Vlad_Inhaler may or may not have written...

> On Dec 13, 12:57 pm, Lurker <brokenj...@linuxmail.org> wrote:

[snip]


>> I am looking for a graphic and network card that will function with the
>> 2.6.29.6 Kernel. I am however curious as to why the older one works the
>> full range of on-board functions and a newer one won't!

> Looking the beast up:


> - Integrated Nvidia� Geforce�7Series Shader model3.0 DirectX 9
> graphics processor,
> Dual VGA output support: RGB & DVI / RGB & HDMI
> * Due to the chipset limitation, simultaneous output for DVI and
> HDMI is not supported.

I've found 'lspci -k' output for this board (not hard to find online). It
seems that the graphics hw is a GeForce 7050PV; it should be supported by the
taintware, but also try the open-source drivers.

(I note that you've posted a link to a possible fix in a later posting.
Anyway, I'm sticking to Intel and slightly older ATI...)

> - PHY Gigabit LAN

The same lspci output says "nVidia Corporation MCP67 Ethernet" and reports
forcedeth as being the driver in use. This should be fine (the driver is
distributed as part of the kernel), but it's possible that there are hardware
bugs which require use of a newer kernel which has workarounds for them.
(ISTR something about MAC addresses being reversed with some nForce Ethernet
hw.)

Suffice it to say that I have an nForce4-based board here which requires
forcedeth for the on-board Ethernet interface; all is working well.

[snip]
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notbob

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:24:04 PM12/14/09
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On 2009-12-14, Lurker <broke...@linuxmail.org> wrote:

> I'm afraid that I have no idea what any of that means, or if there is a
> solution to it.

Then it's about time you learned. This is not a babysitting group.

http://www.pctechguide.com/11Motherboards.htm

nb

Stefan Patric

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:39:23 PM12/14/09
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:09:09 +0000, Lurker wrote:

> Stefan Patric n...@thisaddress.com Sunday 13 Dec 2009 21:45 wrote:
>
>> Have you contacted Slackware about the problem and any solutions?  That
>> would have been the first place I would have gone to.  But it does
>> sound strange.  I just upgraded to Fedora 12 on my 64-bit system that
>> has around a 4 year old Abit MB with onboard LAN and sound.  Never had
>> any hardware issues, and I started on it with Fedora Core 6.
>>
>> Could be you only need to run a particular kernel module.  Slackware's
>> "basic" install kernel is fairly generic.  Contact Slackware.
>

> It seems not to be distro specific as Ubuntu 9.10, the live disc version
> has a problem in that it will not produce anything other, or go any
> further in the booting process, than a screen full of multi-coloured
> lines.

FWIW, many times I've discovered that the "live" versions of distros can
have problems with older hardware, even a couple years, while the "full"
install versions do not. Less room on the disk, I surmise: the "older"
support is removed to make room for the new stuff.

In any case, I see in a later post there is a link to a "fix" for your
problem. So, I'll just wish you luck.


Stef

notbob

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Dec 14, 2009, 3:20:01 PM12/14/09
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On 2009-12-14, Stefan Patric <n...@thisaddress.com> wrote:

> FWIW, many times I've discovered that the "live" versions of distros can

> have problems with older hardware, even a couple years.......

What distros? I've yet to find a computer Knoppix doesn't work on,
including ancient 440BX mobos with PII/celery's. Slax, DSL, Gparted,
etc, all work on 8 yr old P4s. The only live CD I've ever had fail to
work on old hardware is ubuntu. In fact, I've yet to get it to work
on any of the above.

nb

Stefan Patric

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Dec 15, 2009, 9:01:41 PM12/15/09
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Well, off the top of my head: an early version of Ubuntu, Fedora Core 6
32-bit, Fedora 8 32-bit, PCLinuxOS 2007, and Freespire. Others were so
bad--they failed to boot at all--that I've forgotten their names, but
that was a few years ago, and they probably aren't around anymore anyway.

Usually, most all those named would boot and be usable, but certain
things--sound, ethernet, video resolution, etc. wouldn't work or not work
properly. Sometimes, the problems could be "fixed", other times not. I
must say, however, that the inconsistencies and incompatibilities were
rare. The exception more than the rule.

My original "test" machine was a 1GHz AMD Duron, MSI MB, sound and USB
1.1 onboard, with first 256MB RAM, later 768 (max was 1.5 gigs) which I
built in 2002. (I no longer have it. Donated to charity last year.) My
current machine is a 3 year old 2 GHz Athlon64, aBit KN9 MB, NVidia
chipset, onboard LAN, USB 2, and sound, 4GB RAM. I've yet to have a
LiveCD not work on this machine, but then I carefully picked each
component to be as Linux compatible as possible. I guess all that
research paid off. ;-)


Stef

notbob

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Dec 16, 2009, 12:30:44 AM12/16/09
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On 2009-12-16, Stefan Patric <n...@thisaddress.com> wrote:
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> My original "test" machine was a 1GHz AMD Duron, MSI MB, sound and USB
> 1.1 onboard, with first 256MB RAM, later 768 (max was 1.5 gigs) which I
> built in 2002. (I no longer have it. Donated to charity last year.) My
> current machine is a 3 year old 2 GHz Athlon64.....

I've never run AMD. Not that I wouldn't or have anything against AMD.
I jes never had the opportunity, having always come across great used
deals on Intel stuff. One of these days.....

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Stefan Patric

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:50:14 AM12/16/09
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Initially, almost 10 years ago, when I built my first Linux system, my
choice of AMD was mainly due to cost. AMD CPUs were considerably cheaper
than Intel's then, and as good or better performers. Not so much
anymore. But I've had good results with them, and just stayed mostly out
of laziness, and that AMD has been a more "Linux friendly" company over
the years than Intel.


Stef

notbob

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Dec 16, 2009, 11:39:09 AM12/16/09
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On 2009-12-16, Stefan Patric <n...@this.address.com> wrote:

> of laziness, and that AMD has been a more "Linux friendly" company over
> the years than Intel.

Really!? I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a used AMD box.

nb

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