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Ant

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Jan 1, 2016, 1:56:23 PM1/1/16
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Hello.

Is that group gone, dead, or something? :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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Jan 1, 2016, 3:59:25 PM1/1/16
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On Friday, January 1st, 2016, at 12:56:21h -0600, Ant asked:

> Is that group gone, dead, or something? :(

QUOTE

No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.

UNQUOTE

Maybe pining for the fjords?


Domain Name: LM-SENSORS.ORG
Updated Date: 2014-12-16T06:30:23Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2018-12-17T21:14:00Z

Website is hosted at Fachbereich Physik, Freie Universitaet Berlin,

<http://www.physik.fu-berlin.DE/>

who were probably all partying last night and will all be on holiday
until at least Montag morgen.

Aragorn

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Jan 1, 2016, 4:18:33 PM1/1/16
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On Friday 01 Jan 2016 21:56, J G Miller conveyed the following to
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Mitt Kopfschmertzen... :p

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J G Miller

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Jan 1, 2016, 6:46:24 PM1/1/16
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Op Vrijdag, 01 januari, 2016, on 22:18:31u +0100, Aragorn schreef:

> Mitt Kopfschmertzen... :p

Would "der Katzenjammer" (NL: "een kater") be the more appropriate term
or would that be considered impolite?

CBS News offers advice on how to recover at

<http://www.cbsnews.COM/news/how-to-treat-your-new-years-hangover/>

Little know fact: New Year's Day was an ordinary working business day
in England and Wales until January 1st, 1974, when January 2nd also
became a public holiday in Scotland.

The "joke" was that because Scottish people celebrated to so much greater
excess, they needed 2 days to recover.

Incidentally, I wonder if the lm-sensors web site content has only just
gone missing, is a result of some backup/maintenance script failing as a
result of the change in year from 2015 to 2016?

Aragorn

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Jan 1, 2016, 7:07:56 PM1/1/16
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On Saturday 02 Jan 2016 00:43, J G Miller conveyed the following to
comp.os.linux.hardware...

> Op Vrijdag, 01 januari, 2016, on 22:18:31u +0100, Aragorn schreef:
>
>> Mitt Kopfschmertzen... :p
>
> Would "der Katzenjammer" (NL: "een kater") be the more appropriate
> term or would that be considered impolite?

Not being German, I wouldn't really know. ;) But Germans tend to be
pretty hardy, so I think it wouldn't be considered too rude. ;)

> CBS News offers advice on how to recover at
>
> <http://www.cbsnews.COM/news/how-to-treat-your-new-years-
hangover/>
>
> Little know fact: New Year's Day was an ordinary working business day
> in England and Wales until January 1st, 1974, when January 2nd also
> became a public holiday in Scotland.
>
> The "joke" was that because Scottish people celebrated to so much
> greater excess, they needed 2 days to recover.

Interesting. :) Over here in Belgium, the 2nd of January is not
normally a holiday, although the 26th of December ─ Boxing Day in the
Anglo-Saxon world ─ is.

> Incidentally, I wonder if the lm-sensors web site content has only
> just gone missing, is a result of some backup/maintenance script
> failing as a result of the change in year from 2015 to 2016?

Hmm... There isn't anything special about either of these two years in
terms of numerical processing, so I don't really see how that would have
been the case.

They probably goofed up in the hosting of their content ─ e.g. they
could have put it on a different machine without adapting the routing to
the correct server, or something similar.

J G Miller

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Jan 1, 2016, 8:15:05 PM1/1/16
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Op zaterdag, 02 januari, 2016, om 01:07:55u +0100, schreef Aragorn:

> Not being German, I wouldn't really know. ;)

But have you ever played one in a stage play, opera, movie, or tv show?

> But Germans tend to be pretty hardy, so I think it wouldn't be
> considered too rude. ;)

I was under the probably mistaken impression that they got upset over
language politeness eg du/Sie much more than the French over tu/vous
who may sometimes be prepared to overlook such "faux pas".

> Interesting. :) Over here in Belgium, the 2nd of January is not
> normally a holiday, although the 26th of December ─ Boxing Day in the
> Anglo-Saxon world ─ is.

It seems that in most European mainland countries, if a "special" day
falls on a Saturday or Sunday then that is the holiday, whereas in
the UKofGB&NI people expect otherwise. If a "special" day falls on
a weekend, then the adjacent weekday is made the non-working day "in lieu".
(See, French creeps into English expressions all the time.)

So if Christmas Day is on a Saturday, that has meant in the past,
that most people did not return to work until Wednesday of the
following week and almost no shops would have opened until then.

Regardless of which day, the UKofGB&NI pretty much shuts down everything
for Christmas day -- no trains at all (many services stop early the evening
before), no long distance bus (coach) services, and only a very limited local
bus service to hospitals for visiting hours.

And what is most ridiculous -- many European and North American cities
operate extra local bus and even metro/subway services after midnight
of New Year's Eve -- almost all local bus services (and in some
places local train services as well) are stopped early on New Year's Eve.

(As always, things will probably be somewhat different in Greater London.)

Be advised that complaining about other train passengers' behavior
may lead to life threatening injury.

<http://www.liverpoolecho.co.UK/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-man-stabbed-after-challenging-10675878>

> They probably goofed up in the hosting of their content ─ e.g. they
> could have put it on a different machine without adapting the routing to
> the correct server, or something similar.

Yes that sounds a much more likely issue -- machine A shutdown for
some reason and somebody had forgotten to ensure that the contents
of the web site were present on standby machine B.

Ant

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Jan 1, 2016, 9:50:51 PM1/1/16
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Aragorn

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Jan 1, 2016, 10:45:34 PM1/1/16
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On Saturday 02 Jan 2016 02:12, J G Miller conveyed the following to
comp.os.linux.hardware...

> Op zaterdag, 02 januari, 2016, om 01:07:55u +0100, schreef Aragorn:
>
>> Not being German, I wouldn't really know. ;)
>
> But have you ever played one in a stage play, opera, movie, or tv
> show?

No, not that I remember. I did play a Russian police officer from
before the Russian revolution once in a stage play, and I've played a
local kid in a movie, and two Spanish characters in another play. ;)

>> But Germans tend to be pretty hardy, so I think it wouldn't be
>> considered too rude. ;)
>
> I was under the probably mistaken impression that they got upset over
> language politeness eg du/Sie much more than the French over tu/vous
> who may sometimes be prepared to overlook such "faux pas".

I don't really know whether the Germans themselves would get upset over
that, but I know that my German /teachers/ would. :p

>> Interesting. :) Over here in Belgium, the 2nd of January is not
>> normally a holiday, although the 26th of December ─ Boxing Day in the
>> Anglo-Saxon world ─ is.
>
> It seems that in most European mainland countries, if a "special" day
> falls on a Saturday or Sunday then that is the holiday, whereas in
> the UKofGB&NI people expect otherwise. If a "special" day falls on
> a weekend, then the adjacent weekday is made the non-working day "in
> lieu". (See, French creeps into English expressions all the time.)

Yes, that is the same here, but not all of the time. In some cases the
next workday becomes a day off, but in other cases it is simply left "as
is".

What we do have here in Belgium concretely, is that if there is a
holiday on, say, a Thursday, the most administrations and businesses ─
albeit not the shops ─ will bridge with the weekend, and so then Friday
becomes a day off as well.

> So if Christmas Day is on a Saturday, that has meant in the past,
> that most people did not return to work until Wednesday of the
> following week and almost no shops would have opened until then.

Ah, no, it's definitely not that extreme here.

> Regardless of which day, the UKofGB&NI pretty much shuts down
> everything for Christmas day -- no trains at all (many services stop
> early the evening before), no long distance bus (coach) services, and
> only a very limited local bus service to hospitals for visiting hours.

Here, buses and trains still ride on holidays, but it will of course be
with a weekend-style schedule. And people who have to work on a holiday
get paid extra, of course. I'm not sure on the exact rates anymore, but
I think it's a Saturday rate (150% of normal wages for that day).
Sunday rates are always at double wages.

> And what is most ridiculous -- many European and North American cities
> operate extra local bus and even metro/subway services after midnight
> of New Year's Eve -- almost all local bus services (and in some
> places local train services as well) are stopped early on New Year's
> Eve.

I'm not sure about that over here. There is typically a bus or train
after midnight, but not throughout the entire night, I believe.
However, on such days, there are special organizations of young drivers
who then volunteer to play taxi.

Well, that's for New Year's night of course. Not on Christmas night,
because then just about everything is closed anyway. ;)

It's been a while since I went out on New Year's night, though. I'm not
exactly a spring chicken anymore. ;)

> (As always, things will probably be somewhat different in Greater
> London.)
>
> Be advised that complaining about other train passengers' behavior
> may lead to life threatening injury.
>
> <http://www.liverpoolecho.co.UK/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-man-
stabbed-after-challenging-10675878>

Well, we do get violence on public transport here as well, and it
doesn't even have to be Christmas or New Year for that to happen.
People are become more audacious and more arrogant all the time.

>> They probably goofed up in the hosting of their content ─ e.g. they
>> could have put it on a different machine without adapting the routing
>> to the correct server, or something similar.
>
> Yes that sounds a much more likely issue -- machine A shutdown for
> some reason and somebody had forgotten to ensure that the contents
> of the web site were present on standby machine B.

Yep, that would be my guess. ;)

Lew Pitcher

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Jan 2, 2016, 11:17:17 AM1/2/16
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On Friday January 1 2016 21:50, in comp.os.linux.hardware, "Ant"
<ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

> J G Miller <mil...@yoyo.org> wrote:
>> On Friday, January 1st, 2016, at 12:56:21h -0600, Ant asked:
>
>> > Is that group gone, dead, or something? :(
>
>> QUOTE
>
>> No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
>
>> UNQUOTE
>
>> Maybe pining for the fjords?
>
>
>> Domain Name: LM-SENSORS.ORG
>> Updated Date: 2014-12-16T06:30:23Z
>> Registry Expiry Date: 2018-12-17T21:14:00Z
>
>> Website is hosted at Fachbereich Physik, Freie Universitaet Berlin,
>
>> <http://www.physik.fu-berlin.DE/>
>
>> who were probably all partying last night and will all be on holiday
>> until at least Montag morgen.
>
> But it has been down for months:
>
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1029120-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html?sid=577a0461886377e6fcbe68e4ccd57562
>
> Even http://lists.lm-sensors.org/mailman/listinfo/lm-sensors is missing.

I've had a brief conversation with the lm-sensors people
(lm-se...@lm-sensors.org) and they say that they know about the 'down'
website, and it's current state is unintentional.

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Lew Pitcher
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Ant

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Jan 2, 2016, 12:40:39 PM1/2/16
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...
> > But it has been down for months:
> >
> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1029120-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html?sid=577a0461886377e6fcbe68e4ccd57562
> >
> > Even http://lists.lm-sensors.org/mailman/listinfo/lm-sensors is missing.

> I've had a brief conversation with the lm-sensors people
> (lm-se...@lm-sensors.org) and they say that they know about the 'down'
> website, and it's current state is unintentional.

Did they say when they expect to return? No backup sites, forums, etc.?

Lew Pitcher

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Jan 2, 2016, 5:24:10 PM1/2/16
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On Saturday January 2 2016 12:40, in comp.os.linux.hardware, "Ant"
<ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:

> ...
>> > But it has been down for months:
>> >
>>
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1029120-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html?sid=577a0461886377e6fcbe68e4ccd57562
>> >
>> > Even http://lists.lm-sensors.org/mailman/listinfo/lm-sensors is missing.
>
>> I've had a brief conversation with the lm-sensors people
>> (lm-se...@lm-sensors.org) and they say that they know about the 'down'
>> website, and it's current state is unintentional.
>
> Did they say when they expect to return? No backup sites, forums, etc.?

Nope. It was a very terse reply.

Ant

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Jan 2, 2016, 8:09:44 PM1/2/16
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...
> >> I've had a brief conversation with the lm-sensors people
> >> (lm-se...@lm-sensors.org) and they say that they know about the 'down'
> >> website, and it's current state is unintentional.
> >
> > Did they say when they expect to return? No backup sites, forums, etc.?

> Nope. It was a very terse reply.

Thanks. I hope it returns soon since I need to ask them questions for
support. ;)

Mike Spencer

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Jan 27, 2016, 3:47:08 PM1/27/16
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J G Miller <mil...@yoyo.ORG> writes:

> I was under the probably mistaken impression that they got upset over
> language politeness eg du/Sie much more than the French over tu/vous
> who may sometimes be prepared to overlook such "faux pas".

I was at an international blacksmithing conference in '80. Many
German smiths present, a number of English-speaking smiths with a bit
of school-book German. All the former, save two, were very forgiving
of the bad habit of the latter of using du in conversation. The
exceptions were a pair of very well-off, hochpreussisch owners of a
large forging business. But then, they were rather snooty to the
other German smiths too.

--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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