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Tiger Taurus
Sep 18, 2020, 4:47:03 PM9/18/20
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Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
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Bobbie Sellers
Sep 18, 2020, 6:40:04 PM9/18/20
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On 9/18/20 1:46 PM, Tiger Taurus wrote:
> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
Not I but other search on "Star Lite Mk III" reviews I got this
> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
and some other on the same page.
<https://fossbytes.com/star-labs-star-lite-mk-ii-review-little-laptop/>
and this
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aIyQ_XiFYg>
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VanguardLH
Sep 18, 2020, 10:06:54 PM9/18/20
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Tiger Taurus <tiger...@protonmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
https://www.google.com/search?q=starlab%20lite%20mk%20iii%203%20laptop%20review
> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
1st hit:
https://liliputing.com/2020/07/star-lite-mk-iii-linux-laptop-up-for-pre-order-for-426-and-up.html
"... laptop with budget specs."
Tiger Taurus
Sep 23, 2020, 2:05:28 AM9/23/20
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reviews of this product on the web?"
I was asking if anyone who reads this group has had personal experience
with it. Rather sassy of you to imply that I don't know how to use a
search engine.
Stephane Tougard
Sep 23, 2020, 12:59:19 PM9/23/20
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["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.hardware.]
can see that the keyboard sucks at very best. I would not say much on
the screen, I notice that they don't say how many nits it gives, which
is not a very good sign.
Capacities are impressive for the price, I would not trust this kind of
hardware on the long run. I prefer to pay expensive and get the quality,
I work only with Thinkpad so far but I'm still waiting for an
alternative (through the keyboard of the last X1 sucks).
Beside that, I guess nobody has tried one of those because they are on
Pre-order only. But I'm curious to get some feedback as well.
On 2020-09-23, Tiger Taurus <tiger...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
>>> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
>>> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
>>> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
> I was asking if anyone who reads this group has had personal experience
> with it. Rather sassy of you to imply that I don't know how to use a
> search engine.
I did not even know the brand, just watching the web site and already I
> with it. Rather sassy of you to imply that I don't know how to use a
> search engine.
can see that the keyboard sucks at very best. I would not say much on
the screen, I notice that they don't say how many nits it gives, which
is not a very good sign.
Capacities are impressive for the price, I would not trust this kind of
hardware on the long run. I prefer to pay expensive and get the quality,
I work only with Thinkpad so far but I'm still waiting for an
alternative (through the keyboard of the last X1 sucks).
Beside that, I guess nobody has tried one of those because they are on
Pre-order only. But I'm curious to get some feedback as well.
VanguardLH
Sep 24, 2020, 3:44:10 AM9/24/20
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Look at your original inquiry. You did NOT ask if anyone here has used
the computer. You asked has ANYONE tried one of these. I answered what
you actually asked. There was what you meant to say, and there is what
you actually said.
Paul
Sep 28, 2020, 4:25:16 AM9/28/20
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Tiger Taurus wrote:
> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
The Acer Swift 1 has the Pentium Silver N5000 processor in it,
> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
and can be used as a proxy of what to expect from a computing
perspective.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/09/battle-of-the-350-laptops-acer-swift-1-vs-gateway-ryzen-3-3200u/?comments=1
"The Swift 1's Pentium Silver N5000 is an entirely different
beast, designed for maximum electrical and thermal efficiency
with everything else left to go hang"
"Specifically, the Swift 1 choked badly on Facebook's new layout.
Attempting to type a short paragraph about electrical connections
resulted in text buffering - leaving us to watch as it "typed" itself
out, character by laborious character, for another couple of minutes.
To be fair, this is more about Facebook sucking than about the
Swift 1 - but also to be fair, a lot of people will expect to use
Facebook on their new laptop."
The question then, is what era did this product come from.
Nobody is kind to hardware any more, which means you
purchase more power than can reasonably be expected,
to get a result. When I look at my own equipment here,
I keep saying to myself "what if that ran at 5GHz instead",
and then I shake my head and say "no, of course it's never enough".
You can't beat them at this game. There's no such thing
as a processor that's "fast enough for the web". It's too easy for
them to add more looping Javascript code.
Paul
Charlie Gibbs
Sep 28, 2020, 12:36:32 PM9/28/20
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On 2020-09-28, Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
> Nobody is kind to hardware any more, which means you
> purchase more power than can reasonably be expected,
> to get a result. When I look at my own equipment here,
> I keep saying to myself "what if that ran at 5GHz instead",
> and then I shake my head and say "no, of course it's never enough".
> You can't beat them at this game. There's no such thing
> as a processor that's "fast enough for the web". It's too easy for
> them to add more looping Javascript code.
Maybe it's time to take that piece of advice from the movie
> Nobody is kind to hardware any more, which means you
> purchase more power than can reasonably be expected,
> to get a result. When I look at my own equipment here,
> I keep saying to myself "what if that ran at 5GHz instead",
> and then I shake my head and say "no, of course it's never enough".
> You can't beat them at this game. There's no such thing
> as a processor that's "fast enough for the web". It's too easy for
> them to add more looping Javascript code.
"War Games": "The only way to win is not to play."
How badly do you _really_ need Facebook?
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VanguardLH
Sep 28, 2020, 2:29:01 PM9/28/20
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Ignored since I read it in alt.comp.hardware. Original Newsgroups
header restored.
>> Tiger Taurus <tiger...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
>>> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
>
back on June 22, 2020, and it was on pre-order back then (for $421). 3
months later it is still available only via pre-order. If you want to
see their production schedule, see:
https://support.starlabs.systems/status
Guess delivery depends on when you enlisted in their pre-order sales.
From "Mk IV's are on their way to us" hints that someone else is making
their laptops and they just slap their sticker to brand them as theirs.
From https://starlabs.systems/pages/about-us, I got a grin from the
comments on "pub" and "pints". They say they started with Clevo
(https://www.clevo.com.tw/) as their supplier, but have tooled up to
make their laptops themselves. Okay, they why does their product status
mention they are still waiting for shipments?
Back then, they listed Pentium Silver N5030 as the CPU. Now they're
listing the Pentium Silver N5000 as the CPU. The differences between
then and now, and for the SAME model, are:
Then Now
Price: $421 $431
Processor: N5030 CPU N5000 CPU
Faster: 34% @ 3.1GHz 29% @ 2.7GHz (burst, not sustained)
Charger: 65W 60W (different units)
Open warranty: Not mentioned Yes
Preinstalled OS:5 listed 6 listed (MX Linux added)
They claim "faster", "lighter", and other superlatives but never
actually expose against what they are comparing. Faster than what?
Lighter than what? They're even crappier Mk I or II models? They don't
say. They have asterisked some specs, but no matching note for the
asterisked comments. Guess you're supposed to visit their Compare page,
where they compare against their notebook with a larger screen (13")
hence the obvious reason why the MK III is lighter (11"). The Compare
page was available for their current product page. web.archive.org
didn't have their Compare page archived back on Jun-22-2020. There are
other comparisons they deliberately omitted, like the MK III has a 480p
camera versus the 720p in their 13" model.
The MK III has the same 7-hour battery up-time as the 13" comparison
model; however, another reason besides the smaller screen for their
claim of weight reduction is that the comparison model has a bigger
battery for use with the bigger screen. So, the MK III gives you a
smaller screen and smaller battery to reduce weight but with a 2"
smaller screen and definitely less robust CPU.
Have to wonder how they can claim their MK III is faster than their 13"
model. The MK III has a 1.1GHz quad-core N5000, 2.7GHz burst, 4MB cache
versus their 13" which has a 2.1GHz dual-core i3, 4.1GHz burst, 4MB
cache. Two extra cores will look good in benchmarking, not in actual
use. The same 2400MHz DDR memory is listed for both yet they claim
their MK III has 33% faster memory. In their product description, they
omit noting the MK III uses the UHD 605 integrated controller versus the
UHD 620 in the 13" comparison model. A comparison of them is noted at
https://tinyurl.com/y6j4r8cs. I also saw reviews noting the MK III had
problems rendering web pages at Facebook which many users expect to
visit.
The MK III reminds me of my first smartphone. That was before I knew
much about smarphones and based my purchase on brand (Samsung),
marketing, misleading model numbering, and price. Boy, was I sorry I
got that one. Way too slow. For example, I was at the dentist office,
wanted to check my schedule, and after 2 minutes gave up waiting for my
phone to come up and told them to just go ahead and make the
appointment. The MK III looks like a very low entry level netbook, but
perhaps sufficient for low-level Linux demands. The OP never revealed
how he expects to use a laptop and only Linux.
header restored.
>> Tiger Taurus <tiger...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried one of these? Any good?
>>> https://starlabs.systems/pages/lite-mk-iii
>
> Beside that, I guess nobody has tried one of those because they are on
> Pre-order only. But I'm curious to get some feedback as well.
web.archive.org lists the first instance of this web page was recorded
> Pre-order only. But I'm curious to get some feedback as well.
back on June 22, 2020, and it was on pre-order back then (for $421). 3
months later it is still available only via pre-order. If you want to
see their production schedule, see:
https://support.starlabs.systems/status
Guess delivery depends on when you enlisted in their pre-order sales.
From "Mk IV's are on their way to us" hints that someone else is making
their laptops and they just slap their sticker to brand them as theirs.
From https://starlabs.systems/pages/about-us, I got a grin from the
comments on "pub" and "pints". They say they started with Clevo
(https://www.clevo.com.tw/) as their supplier, but have tooled up to
make their laptops themselves. Okay, they why does their product status
mention they are still waiting for shipments?
Back then, they listed Pentium Silver N5030 as the CPU. Now they're
listing the Pentium Silver N5000 as the CPU. The differences between
then and now, and for the SAME model, are:
Then Now
Price: $421 $431
Processor: N5030 CPU N5000 CPU
Faster: 34% @ 3.1GHz 29% @ 2.7GHz (burst, not sustained)
Charger: 65W 60W (different units)
Open warranty: Not mentioned Yes
Preinstalled OS:5 listed 6 listed (MX Linux added)
They claim "faster", "lighter", and other superlatives but never
actually expose against what they are comparing. Faster than what?
Lighter than what? They're even crappier Mk I or II models? They don't
say. They have asterisked some specs, but no matching note for the
asterisked comments. Guess you're supposed to visit their Compare page,
where they compare against their notebook with a larger screen (13")
hence the obvious reason why the MK III is lighter (11"). The Compare
page was available for their current product page. web.archive.org
didn't have their Compare page archived back on Jun-22-2020. There are
other comparisons they deliberately omitted, like the MK III has a 480p
camera versus the 720p in their 13" model.
The MK III has the same 7-hour battery up-time as the 13" comparison
model; however, another reason besides the smaller screen for their
claim of weight reduction is that the comparison model has a bigger
battery for use with the bigger screen. So, the MK III gives you a
smaller screen and smaller battery to reduce weight but with a 2"
smaller screen and definitely less robust CPU.
Have to wonder how they can claim their MK III is faster than their 13"
model. The MK III has a 1.1GHz quad-core N5000, 2.7GHz burst, 4MB cache
versus their 13" which has a 2.1GHz dual-core i3, 4.1GHz burst, 4MB
cache. Two extra cores will look good in benchmarking, not in actual
use. The same 2400MHz DDR memory is listed for both yet they claim
their MK III has 33% faster memory. In their product description, they
omit noting the MK III uses the UHD 605 integrated controller versus the
UHD 620 in the 13" comparison model. A comparison of them is noted at
https://tinyurl.com/y6j4r8cs. I also saw reviews noting the MK III had
problems rendering web pages at Facebook which many users expect to
visit.
The MK III reminds me of my first smartphone. That was before I knew
much about smarphones and based my purchase on brand (Samsung),
marketing, misleading model numbering, and price. Boy, was I sorry I
got that one. Way too slow. For example, I was at the dentist office,
wanted to check my schedule, and after 2 minutes gave up waiting for my
phone to come up and told them to just go ahead and make the
appointment. The MK III looks like a very low entry level netbook, but
perhaps sufficient for low-level Linux demands. The OP never revealed
how he expects to use a laptop and only Linux.
VanguardLH
Sep 28, 2020, 7:10:14 PM9/28/20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aIyQ_XiFYg
Alas, nope, he doesn't visit here, either.
Andrew
Sep 29, 2020, 10:40:13 AM9/29/20
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- he was not happy with the USB port allocations (1 x usb-c and 2 x
usb-a instead of vice-versa)
- he was unhappy with the Micro-SD slot
- the speakers are placed *really* badly
- he was not happy that the only available keyboard was UK, not even US.
- he thought it insane that the Intel IME was enabled in the bios.
There was more to the video of course, but those are the complaints that
I remembered. Apart from those issues he liked the beast a lot, and it
could handle multiple distributions.
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