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Juan Pedro de Andres Diaz

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98
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Sorry I could'nt find in the RedHat distributions.

Thanks for all.

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Richard Blackstone

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98
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Juan Pedro de Andres Diaz <jpe...@tid.es> wrote:
> Sorry I could'nt find in the RedHat distributions.

You sure you want SCCS? It's commercial and I don't know whether
you can find it in any Linux distribution. The free RCS+CVS
is quite good.

Joe Buck

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98
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Richard Blackstone <r...@melody.dyn.ml.org> wrote:
>You sure you want SCCS? It's commercial and I don't know whether
>you can find it in any Linux distribution. The free RCS+CVS
>is quite good.

SCCS is rather old, and because of extensive use of two-digit years
is about to have major problems. :-)

RCS/CVS dominates SCCS in every way (speaking as someone who has used
both extensively); RCS beats SCCS even if you get both for free.

If you have existing SCCS databases, there is a tool called sccs2rcs
that will let you convert them to RCS form. It is included in the
CVS distribution.


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Christopher Browne

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Jul 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/9/98
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On Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:30:01 -0400, Richard Blackstone
<r...@melody.dyn.ml.org> wrote:
>Juan Pedro de Andres Diaz <jpe...@tid.es> wrote:
>> Sorry I could'nt find in the RedHat distributions.
>
>You sure you want SCCS? It's commercial and I don't know whether
>you can find it in any Linux distribution. The free RCS+CVS
>is quite good.

CSSC is available; see <url url="ftp://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu/CSSC/"
name="CSSC,"> a successor to <url
url="http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rridge/mysc.txt" name="MySC.">

SCCS is one of the few UNIX applications that is reported to have
*major* Year 2000 vulnerability, so that having large SCCS archives may
not be real safe. (No doubt efforts to fix this are underway.)

As mentioned, SCCS has long been a "real" UNIX application that has been
restrictively licensed by its various owners.

As a result, users of free software adopted RCS that had a rather more
"open" license, and so almost all free software is managed using RCS.

The further result is that since there is little use of SCCS, there
hasn't been any demand for Red Hat or other distributors to "push" the
use of anything like CSSC. There might well be a contributed package in
RPM or .deb form; few have interest in it.

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Joe Buck

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Jul 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/10/98
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Christopher Browne <cbbr...@hex.net> wrote:
>SCCS is one of the few UNIX applications that is reported to have
>*major* Year 2000 vulnerability, so that having large SCCS archives may
>not be real safe. (No doubt efforts to fix this are underway.)

The best fix is to use sccs2rcs to convert all of your SCCS databases to
RCS form, and then toss SCCS. SCCS is just inferior. Dump it and don't look
back.

David Z. Maze

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Jul 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/18/98
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Juan Pedro de Andres Diaz <jpe...@tid.es> writes:
JPdAD> Sorry I could'nt find in the RedHat distributions.
JPdAD> Thanks for all.

I believe SCCS is owned by Sun, which means you're probably not going
to find it for any non-Sun architectures. You might try looking at
GNU RCS instead, which is a reasonably standard part of many Linux
distributions. Once you've installed RCS, see the rcsintro(1) man
page for an introduction to RCS.

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Christopher B. Browne

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Jul 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/18/98
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On 18 Jul 1998 08:13:43 -0400, David Z. Maze <dm...@donut.mit.edu> posted:

>Juan Pedro de Andres Diaz <jpe...@tid.es> writes:
>JPdAD> Sorry I could'nt find in the RedHat distributions.
>JPdAD> Thanks for all.
>
>I believe SCCS is owned by Sun, which means you're probably not going
>to find it for any non-Sun architectures. You might try looking at
>GNU RCS instead, which is a reasonably standard part of many Linux
>distributions. Once you've installed RCS, see the rcsintro(1) man
>page for an introduction to RCS.

<item><url url="http://www.cyclic.com/cyclic-pages/sccs.html"
name="SCCS">

AT&amp;T's UNIX Source Code Control System. Most associated with
System V UNIX systems, this package is available for most commercial
``true UNIX'' systems, but not for the freely available ones as the
code is encumbered by UNIX source code licensing.

Less-encumbered clones have, on occasion, been released. <url
url="http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~rridge/mysc.txt" name="MySC,"> an
SCCS-compatible version control system, was written in C++ by Ross
Ridge, whom I knew well in my days in Waterloo. It has recently been
revived as <url url="ftp://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu/CSSC/" name="CSSC.">

It is fairly likely that SCO now owns rights to "official SCCS."

There are, of course, multiple opinions on whether RCS or SCCS are
preferable. SCCS reputedly has "killer" Y2K problems; RCS got fixed
quite a while back.

And while I hear reports (Hi, Chris! How's the Tuxedo port going?
:-). ) that SCCS is better suited to use in constructing SCM systems
than RCS, a lot of effort has gone into systems like CVS that run as a
"layer" top RCS.

Certainly in the realm of "free" software, RCS is *immensely* more
used.

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