GUI front-end for RCS
Rosinger
Hi,
Is there a GUI fron-end for RCS (revision control system) for X Window?
Or alternatively, is there a GUI version control system for X Window
(other that RCS)?
Cheers,
Shuky
David M. Cook
>Is there a GUI fron-end for RCS (revision control system) for X Window?
XEmacs has a very easy to use RCS mode.
Dave Cook
qua...@reger.kuen.eunet.de
In article <3354FFC3...@cs.pdx.edu> you wrote:
> Does anyone know if there exists a program like RCS, which will work
> even across different systems? I am part of a programming group forming
> in the Portland, OR area, and we want to start working on some joint
> development projects, but are all on different systems.
> RCS is great for people with accounts in the same place, but what does a
> group in our situation do?
> If nothing is out there, we may make this our first project.
Try CVS, it is a front-end to RCS, to handle complete Source-Trees.
It works remote and local. You can find it on prep.ai.mit.edu.
Regards
Klaus Reger
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Eric Foster-Johnson
Rosinger wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a GUI fron-end for RCS (revision control system) for X Window?
>
> (other that RCS)?
Try tkCVS. CVS is an add-on to RCS and tkCVS is a GUI
interface on CVS. The tkdiff part of this package is
handy and understands RCS.
Good luck,
-Eric
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Max Gotlib
David M. Cook (dmc...@cts.com) wrote:
: On Mon, 28 Apr 1997 16:52:45 +1000,
: Rosinger <rosi...@numbat.cs.rmit.edu.au> wrote:
: >Is there a GUI fron-end for RCS (revision control system) for X Window?
: XEmacs has a very easy to use RCS mode.
Xcoral (at lest new - 3.0 version - too).
Max.
Steve Gunnell
qua...@Reger.kuen.eunet.de wrote:
>
> In article <3354FFC3...@cs.pdx.edu> you wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there exists a program like RCS, which will work
> > even across different systems? I am part of a programming group forming
> > in the Portland, OR area, and we want to start working on some joint
> > development projects, but are all on different systems.
>
> > RCS is great for people with accounts in the same place, but what does a
> > group in our situation do?
>
> > If nothing is out there, we may make this our first project.
> Try CVS, it is a front-end to RCS, to handle complete Source-Trees.
> It works remote and local. You can find it on prep.ai.mit.edu.
Also some versions of CVS have a GUI written in TCL/TK (AFAICR).
Steveg
Richard Keech Open Systems Group
>Is there a GUI fron-end for RCS (revision control system) for X Window?
emacs (which runs under X) has an efficient interface to RCS. i
recommend it highly. if you are using RCS you are probably editing
files. with emacs you have your version control integrated nicely with
your editing.
Richard Keech
Mikhail Teterin
Honorable Richard Keech Open Systems Group
wrote on 04 May (in article <xiasp03...@colesmyer.com.au>):
>>Is there a GUI fron-end for RCS (revision control system) for X Window?
=emacs (which runs under X) has an efficient interface to RCS. i
=recommend it highly. if you are using RCS you are probably editing
=files. with emacs you have your version control integrated nicely with
=your editing.
Oh, yes! And I find it greatly annoying, BTW. Can someone tell me
how to turn this "feature" off? Here is what happens. I check out
a file on my FreeBSD machine. My colleague works with Emacs on NT
(shame on him, but what can I do?). As we know, NT does not have
``rcs'', but Emacs thinks it is smarter then it's users (true for
many cases). So, it sees the RCS subdirectory next to the file my
colleague wants to edit, and insists on the file being either
read-only, or wants to check-it out (which fails due to the lack
of rcs).
How do I make it write to the file, damn it?! Unix permissions are
just fine, what is it's problem?!?
TIA,
-mi
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>>>>> "Mikhail" == Mikhail Teterin <m...@rtfm.ziplink.net> writes:
Mikhail> Oh, yes! And I find it greatly annoying, BTW. Can someone
Mikhail> tell me how to turn this "feature" off?
(remove-hook 'find-file-hooks 'vc-find-file-hook)
does the trick here.
ymmv.
t.
Stewart M Douglas
The latest version handles long filenames (the earlier version seemed
to have a maximum of 9.4). Not sure if the RCS files will be compatible
between Linux and NT but since they are just text files they should be
OK.
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James Youngman
In article <kdoz...@snowgold.demon.co.uk>, sdou...@snowgold.demon.co.uk
says...
>You can get RCS for NT - I use it all the time and it works a treat.
>The latest version handles long filenames (the earlier version seemed
>to have a maximum of 9.4). Not sure if the RCS files will be compatible
>between Linux and NT but since they are just text files they should be
>OK.
IIRC, RCS is fine for cross-platform use except in the case of binary files,
which it handles slightly differently. This may be an endiannes issue or
something, I forget. Anyway, this means that almost all RCS controlled files
are "portable".
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Jym Dyer
>> . . . NT does not have ``rcs'' . . .
> (remove-hook 'find-file-hooks 'vc-find-file-hook)
> does the trick here.
=o= Installing rcs on your NT box also does the trick. :-)
<_Jym_>
Rob Walker
m...@rtfm.ziplink.net (Mikhail Teterin) writes:
> how to turn this "feature" off? Here is what happens. I check out
> a file on my FreeBSD machine. My colleague works with Emacs on NT
> (shame on him, but what can I do?). As we know, NT does not have
> ``rcs'', but Emacs thinks it is smarter then it's users (true for
> many cases). So, it sees the RCS subdirectory next to the file my
> colleague wants to edit, and insists on the file being either
> read-only, or wants to check-it out (which fails due to the lack
> of rcs).
>
I had this exact same problem just a few days ago. I waas needing to
edit a file, but filename.c,v existed also. emacs was trying to check
it out, and when it did not check it out, it made it read only. even
with the permissions set to 777. ugh. what I ended up doing was
nuking all the *,v files in the directory. I believe I would have
been fine with a rename of the file to newfilename.c, but I am not
sure. As long as RCS garbage did not hang around for the filename,
then emacs would not have been messing with rcs permissions and such.
however, I bet there is a port of rcs for nt. I suggest searching on
the net for ntemacs, and / or the virtunix stuff. that might turn up
an NT port of rcs for you all to use.
l8r,
rob
> How do I make it write to the file, damn it?! Unix permissions are
> just fine, what is it's problem?!?
>
Tim Smith
Mikhail Teterin <m...@ALDAN.ziplink.net> wrote:
>many cases). So, it sees the RCS subdirectory next to the file my
>colleague wants to edit, and insists on the file being either
>read-only, or wants to check-it out (which fails due to the lack
>of rcs).
rcs has been ported to NT, Windows 95, OS/2, and DOS. A few moments
web searching will probably turn it up a place for the NT port.
--Tim Smith
Travis Low
Tim Smith wrote:
>
> rcs has been ported to NT, Windows 95, OS/2, and DOS. A few moments
> web searching will probably turn it up a place for the NT port.
Okay, so I'm stupid. I searched for 45 minutes, but all I
found was meta-information like manuals and testemonials.
No one thought to link to a place were I could actually
*get* RCS. Where is RCS for Windows95? Please help!
-- Travis
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David A. Cuthbert
Travis Low <tra...@vais.net> wrote:
>Okay, so I'm stupid. I searched for 45 minutes, but all I
>found was meta-information like manuals and testemonials.
>No one thought to link to a place were I could actually
>*get* RCS. Where is RCS for Windows95? Please help!
ComponentSoftware Ltd. makes a port for Win95/NT of the GNU RCS; look
at http://www.componentsoftware.com/csrcs/ . Unfortunately, it isn't
free ($49 single-user, $199 for five users).
FYI, I've only started to evaluate the product, so I can't offer much
in the way of a detailed opinion. Looks fairly nice on the surface,
though.
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Kim-Minh Kaplan
>>>>> On May 9, 1997, David A Cuthbert said:
David> ComponentSoftware Ltd. makes a port for Win95/NT of the GNU
David> RCS; look at http://www.componentsoftware.com/csrcs/ .
David> Unfortunately, it isn't free ($49 single-user, $199 for five
David> users).
[...]
Isn't GNU RCS GPLed ?
Kim-Minh.
Kenneth P. Turvey
In comp.emacs Travis Low <tra...@vais.net> wrote:
: Okay, so I'm stupid. I searched for 45 minutes, but all I
: found was meta-information like manuals and testemonials.
: No one thought to link to a place were I could actually
: *get* RCS. Where is RCS for Windows95? Please help!
You just had to know what to look for ;)
I found information under DJGPP and RCS. You can get it via ftp from:
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/el/elf/rcsdos/
Please, let me know what you think of it. I have never used it under
dos.
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Tim Smith
In article <33729C90...@vais.net>, Travis Low <tra...@vais.net> wrote:
>Okay, so I'm stupid. I searched for 45 minutes, but all I
>found was meta-information like manuals and testemonials.
>No one thought to link to a place were I could actually
>*get* RCS. Where is RCS for Windows95? Please help!
Look at http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hammer/rcs.html.
Don't feel stupid. It took me 10 minutes to find that, and I knew what
I was looking for. (I finally did an AltaVista search for rcs57pc1.zip,
because I happened to know that that was the name of the file you need
to download, and the above URL was revealed).
There's also another port to NT which is in some ways better than the
offical port, but the person who did it cannot be contacted, and I've
never been able to find the source, so (1) I can't give it to you, since
that would violate GPL, and (2) I'm not going to tell anyone where to
find it, so don't bother asking.
--Tim Smith
dav...@componentsoftware.com
In article <kdoz...@snowgold.demon.co.uk>,
Stewart M Douglas <sdou...@snowgold.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> ....
>
> You can get RCS for NT - I use it all the time and it works a treat.
> The latest version handles long filenames (the earlier version seemed
> to have a maximum of 9.4). Not sure if the RCS files will be compatible
> between Linux and NT but since they are just text files they should be
> OK.
>
> --
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CS-RCS is a GNU RCS compatible revision control system that is fully
integrated with Windows 95/NT. CS-RCS archive files are 100% GNU RCS
compatible, Making it an ideal solution for sites that share common files
on UNIX and Windows platforms
For more information and to download a free evaluation copy visit:
http://www.ComponentSoftware.com/csrcs
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> >
> > rcs has been ported to NT, Windows 95, OS/2, and DOS. A few moments
> > web searching will probably turn it up a place for the NT port.
>
> found was meta-information like manuals and testemonials.
> No one thought to link to a place were I could actually
> *get* RCS. Where is RCS for Windows95? Please help!
>
The command-line version of GNU RCS to NT can be downloaded from:
http://www.coast.net/cgi-bin/coast/dwn?nt/pgmtools/rcs57pc1.zip
You might want to have a look at our shareware product CS-RCS.
CS-RCS is a GNU RCS compatible revision control system that is fully
integrated with Windows 95/NT. CS-RCS supports multi-user and
multi-platform environments, making it an ideal solution for sites that
share common files on UNIX and Windows platforms.
David M. COok
On 10 May 1997 21:03:37 +0200, Kim-Minh Kaplan
<kimminh...@utopia.eunet.fr> wrote:
The GPL allows you to sell the software as long as you don't keep the
source code from the user.
Dave Cook
Steinar Bang
>>>>> dmc...@cts.com (David M. COok):
It isn't that simple. The GPL basically also says that you can buy a
single user license, and use it for as many people as you like, give
it away, sell it, whatever.
They aren't allowed to impose those kinds of restrictions on you, as a
user.
- Steinar
Kim-Minh Kaplan
>>>>>>> On May 9, 1997, David A Cuthbert said:
DAC> ComponentSoftware Ltd. makes a port for Win95/NT of the GNU RCS;
DAC> look at http://www.componentsoftware.com/csrcs/ . Unfortunately,
DAC> it isn't free ($49 single-user, $199 for five users).
>>>>> On 10 May, 1997, Kim-Minh Kaplan wrote:
KMK> Isn't GNU RCS GPLed ?
>>>>> On May 12, 1997, David M COok said:
DMC> The GPL allows you to sell the software as long as you don't keep
DMC> the source code from the user.
Off course, but it looks like we are talking freedom here...
Does the GPL allows one to restrict the number of user ? I believe
that it does not allow you to restrict the usage that people will do
with the software once they have the it.
[ Followup set to gnu.misc.discuss ]
Kim-Minh.
PS: does ComponentSoftware Ltd at least provide the source ?
G.J. Doornink
The 'official' port of GNU RCS:
This package is primarily distributed as
ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/os2/leo/gnu/devtools/rcs57pc1.zip
ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/os2/leo/gnu/devtools/rcs57pc2.zip
and
ftp://ftp.cs.purdue.edu/pub/RCS/rcs57pc1.zip
ftp://ftp.cs.purdue.edu/pub/RCS/rcs57pc2.zip
The first archive contains the more widely used DOS, Win95/NT and OS/2
32-bit executables as well as formatted documentation files. The
second one contains the not so often needed OS/2 16-bit executables,
source code and unformatted documentation files.
The Win32 console version knows about long file names on Win95 and
WinNT.
Diff is included.
Kind regards,
G.J. Doornink <ger...@fs1.bouw.tno.nl>
VABI, Delft, The Netherlands
Wayne Cochran - CS
In article <whenbdy...@heidrun.troll.no>, Steinar Bang <s...@metis.no> writes:
|> >>>>> dmc...@cts.com (David M. COok):
|>
|> > On 10 May 1997 21:03:37 +0200, Kim-Minh Kaplan
|> > <kimminh...@utopia.eunet.fr> wrote:
|>
|>
|> David> RCS; look at http://www.componentsoftware.com/csrcs/ .
|> David> Unfortunately, it isn't free ($49 single-user, $199 for five
|> David> users).
|> >> [...]
|>
|> >> Isn't GNU RCS GPLed ?
|>
|>
|> single user license, and use it for as many people as you like, give
|> it away, sell it, whatever.
|>
|> They aren't allowed to impose those kinds of restrictions on you, as a
|> user.
From the GPL
<quote>
6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the
Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original
licensor to copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these
terms and conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the
recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein.
</quote>
It is my understanding (as the previous poster states) that you could buy a copy and
give it away to all your friends. If any piece of their commercial program contains
GPL'ed code, then their entire program is under the GPL:
<quote>
2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of
it, and copy and distribute such modifications under the terms of Paragraph
1 above, provided that you also do the following:
[...]
b) cause the whole of any work that you distribute or publish, that
in whole or in part contains the Program or any part thereof, either
with or without modifications, to be licensed at no charge to all
third parties under the terms of this General Public License (except
that you may choose to grant warranty protection to some or all
third parties, at your option).
</quote>
I am no lawyer, but it seems to me that these commercial programs that are front
ends for GNU software are also subject to the GPL.
-- wayne
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David A. Cuthbert
I don't normally get into the GPL discussions, but I think I should
clarify what I said earlier before people start wondering about this
company.
I originally said:
> ComponentSoftware Ltd. makes a port for Win95/NT of the GNU
> RCS; look at http://www.componentsoftware.com/csrcs/ .
> Unfortunately, it isn't free ($49 single-user, $199 for five
> users).
and incorrectly used the word "port." By port, I meant that they have
a version that is compatible with and based on GNU RCS, not that they
necessarily took the source code and derived from it.
Their web page describes it as "based on the widely used GNU RCS," not
a port of it.
Hope that this clarifies some misconceptions.
dav...@componentsoftware.com
In article <yg4lo5n...@lombric.intra-net>,
kimminh...@utopia.eunet.fr wrote:
>
> >>>>> On May 9, 1997, David A Cuthbert said:
>
> David> ComponentSoftware Ltd. makes a port for Win95/NT of the GNU
> David> RCS; look at http://www.componentsoftware.com/csrcs/ .
> David> Unfortunately, it isn't free ($49 single-user, $199 for five
> David> users).
> [...]
>
> Isn't GNU RCS GPLed ?
>
ComponentSoftware RCS (CS-RCS) consists of two separate components:
(a) GNU RCS application ported to the Win32 environment.
(b) The CS-RCS GUI (front end).
While the GNU RCS component is GPLed as required, the frond-end component
is proprietary. Since the GNU RCS application is actually free, the
registration is required for the front-end portion only. This concept has
been approved by the Free Software Foundation (FSF).
Anyhow, there are few free ports of GNU RCS to DOS and nobody is bound to
purchase CS-RCS unless he or she appreciates the CS-RCS GUI benefits.
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Makers of CS-RCS -- GNU RCS compatible document revision control system
for Windows 95/NT.
John A. Byerly
Steveg
Check out http://www.saguarosoft.com. John Goodsen wrote a GUI front
end to CVS in Tcl/Tk (I think he called it radcvs).
JAB
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You can find a plethora of CVS info at the CVS Bubbles site:
http://www.loria.fr/~molli/cvs-index.html
Including some very useful tools and GUI front-ends in the related
tools section:
http://www.loria.fr/~molli/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/rel
Therein you'll find a front-end written in Java, so if you are working
across multiple platforms, you may find it quite helpful (however, you
have to do some jiggering with the configuration files to get it to
working properly under Linux).
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johnny
Yes but the question was is there a frontend for RCS and judging by the
answers I would guess not.
I would like the same thing but want to use RCS. :}
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Laurent Michel
I don't know if the Emacs family would qualify for a GUI front-end....
But anyway, emacs and xemacs do have RCS/SCCS mode. In a single
keystroke it automatically checks in and out for you. Very easy. I never
used the command line tools for RCS (ci/co). Emacs does everything for
me. If you're using RCS, just create a directory RCS under you source
directory, then use emacs!
C-x-v-i for inserting a new file (initial check-in)
C-x C-q for check-in/check-out
See the on-line info package on RCS-mode for more details. Truly useful!
--
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Colin Smith
In article <33CDC790...@globalserve.net>,
johnny <joh...@globalserve.net> writes:
:> Yes but the question was is there a frontend for RCS and judging by the
:> answers I would guess not.
:> I would like the same thing but want to use RCS. :}
xemacs
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In a simple sense, emacs or xemacs does work well as a front end for
RCS. Another choice is CVS, and a GUI-front end for that, tkCVS.
I have not used either of these latter two; others might be discussed
in comp.software.config-mgmt.
tkCVS has a URL:
http://www.phys.ufl.edu/docs/goodies/unix/programming/tkcvs.html
dsc