Yahoo 'Suspends' Linux or BSD users!
Nerdwizard
about their problem with Windows, and there is a chance that the trouble
is caused by hardware, such as a faulty audio card, video card, or
failing PSU.
The system troubleshooting technique taught to me since 1965, in the Air
Force schools, is to find the solid parts, and eliminate the possibly
faulty ones, one at a time!
So, my 'toolbox' of techniques includes a Linux or FreeBSD LiveCDrom,
and a REBOOT, to run the OS from the CDrom, instead of from the Hard Drive.
I like "Frenzy" (FreeBSD), Mepis, Damn Small Linux, and PCLinuxOS, as
first choices.
Yahoo must hire summer-break students, or idiots who have no village,
because they have killed my accounts three times, for helping out poor
windoze idiots, and mentioning that a Linux or BSD live CDrom can
demonstrate that their equipment is good, or bad!
It's a real pisser, because, in my case, each account that was
suspended/deleted had attained Level 6 stature. There is nothing sacred
in Cyberspace.
Yahoo Corporate management is in a quandry with the idiocy! Nobody seems
to be in charge, and there is no supervision over the script monkeys!
Yahoo really sucks, because I have usually got 15,800 points, which is
some 6,500 questions answered, with over 15% being rated "BEST".
I do take pride in having advocated Linux and BSD as tools to solve
problems, and in having saved many folks from their own ignorance! But,
there are always more idiot lemmings!
Back to the salt mine, with a new disposable Yahoo identity!
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[H]omer
> Yahoo must hire summer-break students, or idiots who have no village,
> because they have killed my accounts three times, for helping out poor
> windoze idiots, and mentioning that a Linux or BSD live CDrom can
> demonstrate that their equipment is good, or bad!
You're not the first:
http://slated.org/yahoo_censoring_open_source
Once might be an error, but twice seems like policy.
Post details and I'll blog it.
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Roy Schestowitz
> Verily I say unto thee, that Nerdwizard spake thusly:
>
>> Yahoo must hire summer-break students, or idiots who have no village,
>> because they have killed my accounts three times, for helping out poor
>> windoze idiots, and mentioning that a Linux or BSD live CDrom can
>> demonstrate that their equipment is good, or bad!
>
> You're not the first:
>
> http://slated.org/yahoo_censoring_open_source
>
> Once might be an error, but twice seems like policy.
>
> Post details and I'll blog it.
I remember posting this to COLA. It's good that you blogged it. I guess they
have taken the book burning approach.
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Manny
> The system troubleshooting technique taught to me since 1965, in the Air
> Force schools, is to find the solid parts, and eliminate the possibly
> faulty ones, one at a time!
Splendid !
Given: Windows XP SP2 desktop, all patches, clean install, connected
directly to known good cable modem via known good CAT5 cable. The only
firewall is the native WinXP SP2 firewall. Ipconfig yields 169.254.xx.xx
on the Via Rhine II interface. No other NIC present.
Bonus: the Via Rhine II NIC is known good as well.
How do we obtain a valid RR 24.25.26.xx IP address ?
List all trouble shooting, in order of operation. No software will required.
(If it takes more than four simple steps, you're doing something wrong)
Same scenario with MacOS 10.3/10.4 ? (No CLI required)
(I reckon he'll make like a banana. Let's see.)
John Locke
wrote:
>It's a real pisser, because, in my case, each account that was
>suspended/deleted had attained Level 6 stature. There is nothing sacred
>in Cyberspace.
>
Has Yahoo made a deal with the devil ? There's some foul play there
somewhere.
John Bailo
> Yahoo must hire summer-break students, or idiots who have no village,
> because they have killed my accounts three times, for helping out poor
> windoze idiots, and mentioning that a Linux or BSD live CDrom can
> demonstrate that their equipment is good, or bad!
My guess is that a bunch of trolls send emails to Yahoo en masse asking
them to ban you.
This has happened to me on several sites where I hold opposing
viewpoints to the majority ( Seattle P-I for example where being a
Neocon is like walking around with a bullseye ).
BearItAll
I dumped Yahoo questions because I did a few then got the boot, no
explanation given.
So I started again, someone was having a miserable time over something or
other, I thought I was really nice to them, but my post got dumped for
breaking the rules.
There was nothing in the rules that suggested my post ought to be dumped, it
was simply that whoever was doing the dumping didn't agree with me, thats
all I can think happened.
Then in Linux there was one where the answer involved comparing the Linux
part of the question with the Windows equivalent, I think that got dumped
for no other reason than I mentioned Linux and Windows in the same post.
I don't mind these things being monitored, but the censorship has to make
sense.
So I dumped Yahoo answers, and didn't give them a reason either :)
chrisv
>On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:31:12 -0400, Nerdwizard <nerdw...@theweb.com>
>wrote:
>
>>It's a real pisser, because, in my case, each account that was
>>suspended/deleted had attained Level 6 stature. There is nothing sacred
>>in Cyberspace.
>>
>Has Yahoo made a deal with the devil ?
You can call him Bill.
>There's some foul play there somewhere.
Could be...
BearItAll
I'd never heard of Neocon before so I had to look it up. It said your
jewish, not really very dramatic I would have thought, so I suspect you
mean something else.
7
I noticed other (corporate) forums too had anything
to do with Linux being deleted
soon after the posts begin collecting responses.
This is amazing!
Is Micoshaft Corporation paying webshites
to delete Linux related material????
If so, would these fall under censorship laws?
John Bailo
> This is amazing!
> Is Micoshaft Corporation paying webshites
> to delete Linux related material????
> If so, would these fall under censorship laws?
Yahoo started becoming anti=Linux about two years ago.
I noticed it with their media formats (for streaming video news).
There were harsh messages for anyone not using IE and WMP.
It's only recently that I have been able to get it to work in Suse 10.2
I do not trust Yahoo at all -- I'm hoping Google takes them down -- HARD.
Linonut
> Yahoo started becoming anti=Linux about two years ago.
> I noticed it with their media formats (for streaming video news).
> There were harsh messages for anyone not using IE and WMP.
> It's only recently that I have been able to get it to work in Suse 10.2
> I do not trust Yahoo at all -- I'm hoping Google takes them down -- HARD.
Why do you think they call them "yahoos"?
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[H]omer
> I'd never heard of Neocon before so I had to look it up. It said your
> jewish, not really very dramatic I would have thought, so I suspect you
> mean something else.
Neocon abr. Neoconservative. I.e. New (Neo, greek orig.) Conservative.
A group of (typically) ex-liberals who's newly formed political ideals
tends towards conservatism.
British example: New Labour.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2907115.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3033913.stm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/260506tonyblair.htm
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Rafael
> [H]omer on Tuesday
>> Nerdwizard spake thusly:
>>
>>> Yahoo must hire summer-break students, or idiots who have
>>> no village, because they have killed my accounts three
>>> times, for helping out poor windoze idiots, and mentioning
>>> that a Linux or BSD live CDrom can demonstrate that their
>>> equipment is good, or bad!
>>
>> You're not the first:
>>
>> http://slated.org/yahoo_censoring_open_source
>>
>> Once might be an error, but twice seems like policy.
>>
>> Post details and I'll blog it.
>
> I remember posting this to COLA. It's good that you blogged
> it. I guess they have taken the book burning approach.
[H]omer, that is an interesting read. When stuff like this
happen, perhaps the best thing to do is submit a letter to a
corporate official by name, explaining the incident and concerns.
Although it could be indicative of a corporate policy, it also
could be due to some idiot in the IT department who monitors
postings to that forum/service, who happens to be bigoted toward
a particular product.
Usually when upper management catches wind of abuses by an
employee, is dealt with swiftly.
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Oldtech
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> [H]omer on Tuesday
>>> Nerdwizard spake thusly:
>>>
>>>> Yahoo must hire summer-break students, or idiots who have
>>>> no village, because they have killed my accounts three
>>>> times, for helping out poor windoze idiots, and mentioning
>>>> that a Linux or BSD live CDrom can demonstrate that their
>>>> equipment is good, or bad!
>>>
>>> You're not the first:
>>>
>>> http://slated.org/yahoo_censoring_open_source
>>>
>>> Once might be an error, but twice seems like policy.
>>>
>>> Post details and I'll blog it.
>>
>> I remember posting this to COLA. It's good that you blogged
>> it. I guess they have taken the book burning approach.
>
> [H]omer, that is an interesting read. When stuff like this happen,
> perhaps the best thing to do is submit a letter to a corporate official
> by name, explaining the incident and concerns.
>
> Although it could be indicative of a corporate policy, it also could be
> due to some idiot in the IT department who monitors postings to that
> forum/service, who happens to be bigoted toward a particular product.
>
> Usually when upper management catches wind of abuses by an employee, is
> dealt with swiftly.
>
Look, I have been suspended in my most recent persona though this time,
they didn't kill my questions, nor my email person.
But, the other two, Level 6 after months of great answers, with 14% BEST
ANSWERS, were entirely NUKED! Hey, identity was Linuxiac and Linuxiac2.
Anything with the word Linux will be wiped from the bowels of Yahoo!
The also kill answers that contain BSD or FOSS, FREE Open Source.
I see it is a policy of book burning, and denial. Funny, as Yahoo runs
on FreeBSD servers!
BearItAll
I don't often go into my old yahoo email account these days, but I went in
recently because I'm was expecting something and thought it might have been
sent to there.
Something has changed because almost everything I clicked in there shut down
my browser with the java console telling me about loads of code errors.
I don't really need Yahoo anymore, I used to love going on there, I could
spend an evening just on the Yahoo site itself at one time. But it isn't
really offering me things I can't get better versions of somewhere else,
including the Yahoo chat, which is very Linux unfriendly now. Their search
took a major turn for the worse when they changed the results screens to
flashy adverts and poorly presented results.
Oh well, things move on, yahoo had their day, now they can go because they
don't have anything to offer me.
Roy Schestowitz
http://digg.com/linux_unix/Yahoo_is_Book_Burning_Linux_BSD_Open_Source
If this one makes the front page (16 hours, 48 Diggs at the moment), then we'll
probably be hearing many more confessions about deletion by Yahoo. This is
annoying and unacceptable. Someone in the Yahoo team is book burning, unless
it's just a general policy (which is even worse).
Bear in mind that Yahoo not only uses *BSD. Recently, amid the RHT-ORCL tiffs,
it emerged that Yahoo uses GNU/Linux as well. Plenty of it in fact...
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[H]omer
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Yahoo_is_Book_Burning_Linux_BSD_Open_Source
Thanks for crushing my server :)
> Bear in mind that Yahoo not only uses *BSD. Recently, amid the
> RHT-ORCL tiffs, it emerged that Yahoo uses GNU/Linux as well. Plenty
> of it in fact...
So does Novell, but that didn't stop them making a pact with the Beast.
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Roy Schestowitz
> Verily I say unto thee, that Roy Schestowitz spake thusly:
>
>> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Yahoo_is_Book_Burning_Linux_BSD_Open_Source
>
> Thanks for crushing my server :)
It's making waves, e.g.:
http://digg.com/linux_unix/Will_Yahoo_Censor_This_Too
They got Slated. Poor Yahoo named and shamed.
>> Bear in mind that Yahoo not only uses *BSD. Recently, amid the
>> RHT-ORCL tiffs, it emerged that Yahoo uses GNU/Linux as well. Plenty
>> of it in fact...
>
> So does Novell, but that didn't stop them making a pact with the Beast.
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High Priest O'Murphy
"Oldtech" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4671f8c1$0$14961$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
Yahoo doesn't care or suspend people based on what OS they use. Yahoo could
care less.
Yahoo suspends accounts who are rude and have inappropriate behaviour. Blame
yourself, not Yahoo for your actions.
Darth Chaos
wrote:
> __/ [ [H]omer ] on Tuesday 12 June 2007 05:15 \__
>
> > Verily I say unto thee, that Nerdwizard spake thusly:
>
> >> Yahoo must hire summer-break students, or idiots who have no village,
> >> because they have killed my accounts three times, for helping out poor
> >> windoze idiots, and mentioning that a Linux or BSD live CDrom can
> >> demonstrate that their equipment is good, or bad!
>
> > You're not the first:
>
> >http://slated.org/yahoo_censoring_open_source
>
> > Once might be an error, but twice seems like policy.
>
> > Post details and I'll blog it.
>
> I remember posting this to COLA. It's good that you blogged it. I guess they
> have taken the book burning approach.
I just posted that article and Nerdwizard's post on my MySpace blog.
Oldtech
The objective of being on the Internet, or Yahoo Answers, or some of the
forums, it to answer questions, for users of any knowledge level.
Many tens of thousands of us want to see that noobs have a good
experience. The attitude of some of the corporate giants is piss poor,
and they only want your money.
The backlash is huge! Some of the resultant fallout, such as when some
of us quit answering Yahoo Answers after being suspended or our accounts
deleted, for our having recommended the correct technical steps that
rely upon Open source solutions, actually hurts new users.
That is an outcome we want to avoid, but that convicted felon Microsoft,
and uncaring Yahoo, don't care about. Strange that they all seem to
turn on their customers!
But, that is the new commercial paradigm, to screw the customer!