The laughter never ends in Linux/OSS bizarro world!
DFS
of the other office suite currently in use."
http://fileforum.betanews.com/review/1009574294/2/view posted by robmanic44
"That goes back to what I was saying about the professional office
environment is now closed off to micoshaft with the release of Open Office
2." cola idiot 7
Reporter
> "I think that if K-Office is ever released to Windows, it will replace most
> of the other office suite currently in use."
>
>
> "That goes back to what I was saying about the professional office
> environment is now closed off to micoshaft with the release of Open Office
> 2." cola idiot 7
open office 2 is a joke
Dr. GroundAxe
Oh it is to laugh. The trouble is that OSS weenies think that Microsoft
office is so widely used because it is somehow forced upon businesses.
The fact is (and this really hurts the OSS community) is that Microsoft
office is a very good product, so good that companies will pay for it
when free alternatives exist. OPenOffice is a total POS, and were it not
free I doubt anyone would be paying any attention to it.
7
You an idiot proposes what micoshaft oriffice with all its bugs
and interoperability isssues??
BWAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!
Open Office is now the most superior office product
out there on the planet. You can make complete
applications and have open office
embedded into it - like its drawing programs to wordprocessors
and there is nothing you need in the way of license to do this.
7
What is your problem?
The professional office market is now closed to micoshaft with
the release of super powerful Open Office 2.
There is hardly anything out there that specifies micoshaft
products on the back Open Office taking control of the wordprocessing
environment. Most of my applications to documents
are now written in Open Office. There is simply no need to
support micoshaft's office formats any more in the office space.
John Bailo
First, they laugh at you...
Dr. GroundAxe
...Then despite you dearest hopes they continue to laugh at you.
Linonut
> Oh it is to laugh. The trouble is that OSS weenies think that Microsoft
> office is so widely used because it is somehow forced upon businesses.
> The fact is (and this really hurts the OSS community) is that Microsoft
> office is a very good product, so good that companies will pay for it
> when free alternatives exist. OPenOffice is a total POS, and were it not
> free I doubt anyone would be paying any attention to it.
You are an idiot.
--
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significant number of users want fixed." -- Bill Gates, FOCUS interview
http://www.cantrip.org/nobugs.html
John Bailo
> ...Then despite you dearest hopes they continue to laugh at you.
Linux Advocates quote Gandhi.
Windiots quote Soupy Sales.
spi...@freenet.co.uk
No no, then they fear you, then you win.
Open office and other open source software is at the "fear you" stage now.
Microsoft's terrified of OSS and has been for quite a while.
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Reporter
> DFS wrote:
> > "I think that if K-Office is ever released to Windows, it will replace most
> > of the other office suite currently in use."
>
>
> > "That goes back to what I was saying about the professional office
> > environment is now closed off to micoshaft with the release of Open Office
> > 2." cola idiot 7
>
> Oh it is to laugh. The trouble is that OSS weenies think that Microsoft
> office is so widely used because it is somehow forced upon businesses.
> The fact is (and this really hurts the OSS community) is that Microsoft
> office is a very good product, so good that companies will pay for it
> when free alternatives exist. OPenOffice is a total POS, and were it not
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dr. GroundAxe is correct.
Kelsey Bjarnason
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Dr. GroundAxe belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Oh it is to laugh. The trouble is that OSS weenies think that Microsoft
>> office is so widely used because it is somehow forced upon businesses.
>> The fact is (and this really hurts the OSS community) is that Microsoft
>> office is a very good product, so good that companies will pay for it
>> when free alternatives exist. OPenOffice is a total POS, and were it not
>> free I doubt anyone would be paying any attention to it.
>
> You are an idiot.
No kidding. MS Office *is* free, in essence, for me - I have registered
copies (plural) at home and at work, I've got still more licensed copies.
Funny thing... I don't use it even when running Windows. Why? Wrong
question. The correct question is why would I run it? OOo does everything
I need, effectively and efficiently.
Once more a Wintroll offers the truly stunning argument that one _should_
pay more, to get the same functionality, and this, to them, makes sense.
Look, Wintrolls, if you're really that set on giving away money, why not
donate it to a worthy charity, where it will do some good?
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DFS
Heartily, for years, while the OSS world keeps repeating itself: "You just
wait Mr. Microsoft! Someday I'll show you!"
Meanwhile, back in the real world:
2000-10-13: OpenOffice.org goes live, and the world yawns.
...
...
6 years later
2006-12-12: OO 2.1 is released, and the yawning starts all over
And now, KOffice for Windows replacing MS Office!?!?! LMAO!!!!
B Gruff
Here's some more bedtime reading for you then (yawn?)
ray
If you're really interested in never ending laughter, try
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general.
DFS
I'll take a look right now...
...
...
ack! Boring. Not funny. People griping about Windows\Vista problems. Of
course, it's no more or less funny than the people griping about Linux
problems in alt.os.linux.suse or alt.os.linux.ubuntu.
Fraser Ramos
> Dr. GroundAxe <grou...@hotmail.co.uk> did eloquently scribble:
>> John Bailo wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> "I think that if K-Office is ever released to Windows, it will
>>>> replace most of the other office suite currently in use."
>>>>
>>>> http://fileforum.betanews.com/review/1009574294/2/view posted by
>>>> robmanic44
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "That goes back to what I was saying about the professional office
>>>> environment is now closed off to micoshaft with the release of
>>>> Open Office
>>>> 2." cola idiot 7
>>>
>>>
>>> First, they laugh at you...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>> ...Then despite you dearest hopes they continue to laugh at you.
>
> No no, then they fear you, then you win.
> Open office and other open source software is at the "fear you" stage
> now. Microsoft's terrified of OSS and has been for quite a while.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! What a fucking load of shit; shows how much you don't
know, you ignorant fucktard twat.
>> spi...@freenet.co.uk |
>> | Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)|
*LOL*
The Ghost In The Machine
<website_...@www.enemygadgets.com>
wrote
on Sun, 04 Mar 2007 17:52:58 GMT
<_HDGh.12636$I46....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>:
> idiot asstroturfer Reporter wrote on behalf of micoshaft corporation:
>
>> On Mar 4, 12:32 pm, "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>> "I think that if K-Office is ever released to Windows, it will replace
>>> most of the other office suite currently in use."
>>>
>>> http://fileforum.betanews.com/review/1009574294/2/viewposted by
>>> robmanic44
>>>
>>> "That goes back to what I was saying about the professional office
>>> environment is now closed off to micoshaft with the release of Open
>>> Office
>>> 2." cola idiot 7
>>
>> open office 2 is a joke
>
> You an idiot proposes what micoshaft oriffice with all its bugs
> and interoperability isssues??
>
> BWAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!
Of course he does. It's in his contract. :-)
>
> Open Office is now the most superior office product
> out there on the planet. You can make complete
> applications and have open office
> embedded into it - like its drawing programs to wordprocessors
> and there is nothing you need in the way of license to do this.
>
It still has some problems. To be sure, these aren't all
that serious, but I'd really love to have a web editor
that actually understands the concept of CSS2.1 or CSS3
style sheets.
Something along the lines of Microsoft's Visual Interdev
(yeah, yeah, I know), only a lot more robust and
featureful, coupled with either OpenOffice's current
Web editor, or something like Netscape's Composer.
A pity mixing code doesn't quite work like that. :-)
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>> No no, then they fear you, then you win.
>> Open office and other open source software is at the "fear you" stage
>> now. Microsoft's terrified of OSS and has been for quite a while.
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! What a fucking load of shit; shows how much you don't
> know, you ignorant fucktard twat.
Care to explain why microsoft wastes so much money in their attempt to
discredit something they don't believe for one minute is worth worrying
about then?
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AB
I haven't looked lately, but I don't think there's *anything* at
microsoft.public.windows.vista.security. Not surprisingly.
--
I use linux because I've used Windows.
Maverick
Yeah, but Vista is supposed to be the world leader in o/ses right?
So why are the masses having so much trouble upgrading to Vista then?
Freeride
> open office 2 is a joke
Anyone paying $500 for M$ Office is a joke! :)
Kelsey Bjarnason
Yes, but don't forget DuFuS and his stunning inability to grasp such
simple concepts as "if startup times bother you so much, just leave the
goddamn thing running."
So, let's see. It takes about 10 seconds to start OOo "cold" on this box,
which is _not_ a particularly high-end box these days. Assuming I do this
six times a day (cold start of OOo, not just a start of it), I waste a
whole minute a day.
Now if I'm getting paid, say, $50 an hour, I need to make up 10 hours'
worth of time wasted in OOo cold starts just to break even with the price
you note for MSO. That's 600 minutes. If we assume 48 work weeks per
year (two weeks' vacation, two more weeks between holidays, sick days,
etc), that would mean 240 days per year worked, 240 minutes per year
saved, or 2.5 years, using MSO every day, just to break even on the price
tag. And that's assuming I'm getting $50 per hour; I rather suspect the
vast majority of MSO users aren't. At $25 per hour, it would take them
five years just to break even, cost-wise.
Now maybe - *maybe* - they're in a situation where they actually _need_
MSO, where the documents they process are, in fact, so heavily tailored to
one vendor's product that they cannot realistically switch. However, that
does not describe, IME, the vast majority of real-world users.
So, once again, it comes down to paying more for no reason at all, to
"save" a few seconds here and there which, even at $50 an hour, require
two and a half work-years just to break even... and even that can be
eliminated, by the simple expedient of just leaving the damned app open if
you need it that often.
Why these people think it's a good idea, spending largish amounts of money
to "save" the "cost" of having a regularly-used app simply running in the
background, isn't clear.
DFS
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:45:08 +0000, Freeride wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 09:37:51 -0800, Reporter wrote:
>>
>>> open office 2 is a joke
>>
>> Anyone paying $500 for M$ Office is a joke! :)
>
> Yes, but don't forget DuFuS and his stunning inability to grasp such
> simple concepts as "if startup times bother you so much, just leave
> the goddamn thing running."
That may be how you imagine people work, but stand over someone's shoulder
and watch them:
* open Excel, work for a while, save/close Excel
* little while later, open Excel, work for a while, save/close Excel
* repeat all the live long day
Peter Köhlmann
Yes, we know that most windows users are stupid
Why confirm it over and over?
--
Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you with experience...
Linonut
With Linux, you have plenty of RAM left over for caching OpenOffice.
Subsequent loads are plenty fast.
The only time OpenOffice takes any time, anyway, is opening a large Word
doc.
It's a non-issue, really.
--
Welcome to DLL Hell.
DFS
It's a big issue for me. It's slow to load, and slow to run. Try whizzing
around in OO Calc like you can in Excel - it ain't happenin'.
OpenOffice takes your computer back a whole generation. Turns a Corvette
into a Chevette. A Ho-Ho into a Ding-Dong. Windows into Linux.
DFS
> Yes, we know that most windows users are stupid
> Why confirm it over and over?
You're a Windows user and developer, dumbkopf. Why be so hard on yourself?
Peter Köhlmann
Nope, I am a linux user and a software developer, DumbFullShit
And yes, I also develop for windows. That does *not* make me a windows user,
as I don't do anything at all with windows, except writing software
And no, I do not shut down apps all the time and restart them for working on
different data. But then, I am not an incredibly stupid windows user
--
My other computer is your windows box
DFS
> That does *not* make me a windows user, as I don't do
> anything at all with windows, except writing software
BWAHAHA!!! That's classic!
You moron.
yttrx
For once I agree. Peter is probably the fourth biggest fucking
idiot on COLA.
-----yttrx
Kelsey Bjarnason
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:30:48 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> * open Excel, work for a while, save/close Excel
>> * little while later, open Excel, work for a while, save/close Excel
>> * repeat all the live long day
>
> Yes, we know that most windows users are stupid
> Why confirm it over and over?
Exactly. If you use the app so blinkin' often, just toss it on desktop 2
and forget about it. Next time you want to use it, you can either switch
to desktop 2 or, if you re-run it (double-clicking a file, say), it'll
load very fast anyhow.
What's so blinkin' hard about this? Hell, even Windows can handle it,
even without virtual desktop support; just minimize the app.
Windows: encouraging people to do things the hard way since 1985...
Linonut
>> The only time OpenOffice takes any time, anyway, is opening a large
>> Word doc.
>>
>> It's a non-issue, really.
>
> It's a big issue for me. It's slow to load, and slow to run. Try whizzing
> around in OO Calc like you can in Excel - it ain't happenin'.
>
> OpenOffice takes your computer back a whole generation. Turns a Corvette
> into a Chevette. A Ho-Ho into a Ding-Dong. Windows into Linux.
Whatever.
Linonut
> DFS <nospam@dfs_.com> wrote:
>> Peter K?hlmann wrote:
>>
>>> That does *not* make me a windows user, as I don't do
>>> anything at all with windows, except writing software
>>
>> BWAHAHA!!! That's classic!
>>
>> You moron.
>
> For once I agree. Peter is probably the fourth biggest fucking
> idiot on COLA.
He should have replaced "writing software" with "debugging
and compiling Windows software", because you can write software
all day long without firing up Windows at all.
--
Press every key to continue.
DFS
> [snips]
>
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:30:48 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>>> * open Excel, work for a while, save/close Excel
>>> * little while later, open Excel, work for a while, save/close Excel
>>> * repeat all the live long day
>>
>> Yes, we know that most windows users are stupid
>> Why confirm it over and over?
>
> Exactly. If you use the app so blinkin' often, just toss it on
> desktop 2 and forget about it. Next time you want to use it, you can
> either switch to desktop 2 or, if you re-run it (double-clicking a
> file, say), it'll load very fast anyhow.
It will load as fast as Excel from the year 1997... maybe, if you have a
very fast system.
If you want to continue to delude yourself that Windows users are stupid,
and OO is anything but slow, have at it.
Make sure your boss knows what you think about him. You too, Kohlmann, you
"I don't use Windows I just write software with it" moron.
> What's so blinkin' hard about this? Hell, even Windows can handle it,
> even without virtual desktop support; just minimize the app.
>
> Windows: encouraging people to do things the hard way since 1985...
Linux: case-sensitive? It'S rIDicuLoUs!
yttrx
My comment wasnt about peter not using windows, which I believe
he does not. It was about him being all noble and vehement about
the open source movement in general and linux in particular, then
selling out and being a windows coder.
It's hilarious, and he's an idiot.
-----yttrx
The Ghost In The Machine
<yt...@yttrx.net>
wrote
on Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:09:46 GMT
<KUdIh.5509$Yy1....@textfe.usenetserver.com>:
One doesn't use Windows as such. Instead, one approaches
Windows with trepidation, never knowing quite where it
will want to go today. As one then engages this Master
Operating System, one has the illusion of commanding
it, but it then grows insidious, feeling around (in a
rather pleasurable, seductive manner) as it searches for
a telltale bulge -- no, not that bulge, the other one,
usually in one's rear pocket. (For those on the other
side of the gender gap, one might express some concerns
for handbag clasps and the occasional roving appendage
going into unauthorized areas.)
And then it falls over and turns blue.
At least with Linux and FreeBSD one can recover things
afterwards. If UML ever gets straightened out in Linux
(apparently 2.6.20 introduced Yet Another Annoying Compile
Quirk(tm)), one can *suspend* the malfunctioning program,
take a snapshot, then recover -- or suspend a system for
a short time and back it up, then resume operation.
I don't know if FreeBSD has a similar capability. QEMU,
however, should be usable within both systems, with any luck,
though it's slower.
>
>
>
> -----yttrx
>
>
>
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Linonut
> Linonut <lin...@bone.com> wrote:
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, yttrx belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>> For once I agree. Peter is probably the fourth biggest fucking
>>> idiot on COLA.
>>
>> He should have replaced "writing software" with "debugging
>> and compiling Windows software", because you can write software
>> all day long without firing up Windows at all.
>
> My comment wasnt about peter not using windows, which I believe
> he does not. It was about him being all noble and vehement about
> the open source movement in general and linux in particular, then
> selling out and being a windows coder.
I'm the same way, though. And I don't consider it to be "selling out".
I consider it "being practical." Although we're now getting some Linux
work, for a long time it was alllllll Windows. The Charleston SC
developer market is still somewhat small and parochial.
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yttrx
> After takin' a swig o' grog, yttrx belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Linonut <lin...@bone.com> wrote:
>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, yttrx belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> For once I agree. Peter is probably the fourth biggest fucking
>>>> idiot on COLA.
>>>
>>> He should have replaced "writing software" with "debugging
>>> and compiling Windows software", because you can write software
>>> all day long without firing up Windows at all.
>>
>> My comment wasnt about peter not using windows, which I believe
>> he does not. It was about him being all noble and vehement about
>> the open source movement in general and linux in particular, then
>> selling out and being a windows coder.
>
> I'm the same way, though. And I don't consider it to be "selling out".
> I consider it "being practical." Although we're now getting some Linux
> work, for a long time it was alllllll Windows. The Charleston SC
> developer market is still somewhat small and parochial.
>
No, it's absolutely selling out--but only if you're as vehemently anti
microsoft as peter kraut is. You're merely fiercely anti microsoft.
-----yttrx
cc
> Linonut <lino...@bone.com> wrote:
> > After takin' a swig o' grog, yttrx belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
> >>> After takin' a swig o' grog, yttrx belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
> >>>> For once I agree. Peter is probably the fourth biggest fucking
> >>>> idiot on COLA.
>
> >>> He should have replaced "writing software" with "debugging
> >>> and compiling Windows software", because you can write software
> >>> all day long without firing up Windows at all.
>
> >> My comment wasnt about peter not using windows, which I believe
> >> he does not. It was about him being all noble and vehement about
> >> the open source movement in general and linux in particular, then
> >> selling out and being a windows coder.
>
> > I'm the same way, though. And I don't consider it to be "selling out".
> > I consider it "being practical." Although we're now getting some Linux
> > work, for a long time it was alllllll Windows. The Charleston SC
> > developer market is still somewhat small and parochial.
>
> No, it's absolutely selling out--but only if you're as vehemently anti
> microsoft as peter kraut is. You're merely fiercely anti microsoft.
>
Finally, you post about something you actually know about...selling
out.
yttrx
And how...*exactly*...have I sold out? You've never offered any
details.
-----yttrx
cc
I have. How do you get through life sticking your fingers in your
ears, shutting your eyes, and screaming at the top of your lungs? I
imagine it's tough.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b369ea0d0592c808?dmode=source&hl=en
DFS
> After takin' a swig o' grog, yttrx belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Linonut <lin...@bone.com> wrote:
>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, yttrx belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>>>
>>>> For once I agree. Peter is probably the fourth biggest fucking
>>>> idiot on COLA.
>>>
>>> He should have replaced "writing software" with "debugging
>>> and compiling Windows software", because you can write software
>>> all day long without firing up Windows at all.
>>
>> My comment wasnt about peter not using windows, which I believe
>> he does not. It was about him being all noble and vehement about
>> the open source movement in general and linux in particular, then
>> selling out and being a windows coder.
>
> I'm the same way, though.
I believe most Linux "advocates" are.
It's a Windows, Windows, Windows, Windows world.
> And I don't consider it to be "selling
> out". I consider it "being practical."
It's extreme selling out to bash and lie about Windows all night, then use
it all day to make a living. It's the ultimate in hypocrisy (though I'm
guilty too, I guess, as I whale away on OSS but I've tried several times to
get a PostgreSQL system up inside a client data center - my motives are
partly selfish: I want to maintain control over the server and database, and
I thought a free db server would have a better chance than a paid one. But
I was wrong - they refuse to install non-Oracle and non-SQL Server systems.
I'm looking out for these departments, too, though, as moving their data off
Access is a plus.)
> Although we're now getting
> some Linux work, for a long time it was alllllll Windows. The
> Charleston SC developer market is still somewhat small and parochial.
Like the mind of an "advocate"...
DFS
> cc <scat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Finally, you post about something you actually know about...selling
>> out.
>>
>
> And how...*exactly*...have I sold out? You've never offered any
> details.
Somewhere on your blog is a tale about you leaving your beloved body
mutilation behind and selling out for money.
Linonut
Of course. I've read up on them. I had no inkling of what they were
doing at the peak of my love for Microsoft, circa 1995.
On the technical side, they have some good stuff, even if it sometimes
stinks of the NIH syndrome. But I've experienced too many bugs to
really like most of their products. And their dazed followers tend to
think that GUIs and "integration" can paper over a wealth of bad design.
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Linonut
> Linonut wrote:
>>
>> I'm the same way, though.
>
> I believe most Linux "advocates" are.
>
> It's a Windows, Windows, Windows, Windows world.
Only on the consumer desktop, my friend.
And that desktop is only a small fraction (circa 10%) of the information
technology world.
To say otherwise is like saying sudoku players comprise the world of
mathematics.
As a small example, you can find cell phones or PDAs running Linux,
Symbian, and Palm OS, in addition to some type of Windows.
Why is the consumer market different? You know why.
>> And I don't consider it to be "selling
>> out". I consider it "being practical."
>
> It's extreme selling out to bash and lie about Windows all night, then use
Who's lying? I've don't believe I've ever caught Peter in a lie. A few
times he's been mistaken, but he is correct more often than not. Sure,
he's a prickly cuss. Like that's rare in the arrogant hubristic society
of the developer!
>> The
>> Charleston SC developer market is still somewhat small and parochial.
>
> Like the mind of an "advocate"...
You advocate Windows and MS Office.
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Sandbox your Windows environment in a QEMU virtual machine.
yttrx
yttrx
DFS
Don't remember, but it was something about covering the tats, and taking out
of your body all the pins, needles, chains, balls, spikes, etc so you could
look more respectable and make money.
yttrx
I see. You don't remember.
At least one of my "tats" is public---meaning that it cannot be covered.
I do not make a conscious point to cover them all for any specific reason,
though I have been known to wear long sleeved shirts on occasion when
the situation warrants a longsleeve shirt, tattoos or not.
I have never once had a problem with my at least one public tattoo.
My experience speaks for itself.
It is true that at one point I was pierced very heavily and quite
visibly. I took them all out because they were uncomfortable and I was
sick of them, and also because I really, really fucking hate the grand
majority of individuals that walk around with a shitload of visible
piercings, and I no longer wanted to be associated with them.
That said, I'm certainly not alone. Both personally and professionally
I know over a dozen individuals sporting full bodysuits and/or many
piercings (the piercings are generally private in this case) who are
also executives for major corporations. It's actually pretty common.
-----yttrx
Hadron Quark
> After takin' a swig o' grog, DFS belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Linonut wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm the same way, though.
>>
>> I believe most Linux "advocates" are.
>>
>> It's a Windows, Windows, Windows, Windows world.
>
> Only on the consumer desktop, my friend.
>
> And that desktop is only a small fraction (circa 10%) of the information
> technology world.
What drugs are you on?
>
> To say otherwise is like saying sudoku players comprise the world of
> mathematics.
>
> As a small example, you can find cell phones or PDAs running Linux,
> Symbian, and Palm OS, in addition to some type of Windows.
Yeah. And how much development are you doing for mobile phones?
>
> Why is the consumer market different? You know why.
>
>>> And I don't consider it to be "selling
>>> out". I consider it "being practical."
>>
>> It's extreme selling out to bash and lie about Windows all night, then use
>
> Who's lying? I've don't believe I've ever caught Peter in a lie. A
> few
Then you are deaf and dumb or stupid. No. You're not. You just choose
not to. Peter lies ALL the time. About AA, about WINE, about nyms. It's
all he does.
> times he's been mistaken, but he is correct more often than not. Sure,
> he's a prickly cuss. Like that's rare in the arrogant hubristic society
> of the developer!
Can't argue with you there. He is, of course, also a hypocrite.
Linonut
> It is true that at one point I was pierced very heavily and quite
> visibly. I took them all out because they were uncomfortable and I was
> sick of them, and also because I really, really fucking hate the grand
> majority of individuals that walk around with a shitload of visible
> piercings, and I no longer wanted to be associated with them.
>
> That said, I'm certainly not alone. Both personally and professionally
> I know over a dozen individuals sporting full bodysuits and/or many
> piercings (the piercings are generally private in this case) who are
> also executives for major corporations. It's actually pretty common.
Did any of them appear on "Humanimal"?
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> yttrx wrote:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/people/A20429/yttrx/index.html
"Was it more difficult to remove your piercings, or was cutting your
hair off more difficult?"
Nope, not a sellout at all.
yttrx
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tha...@tux.glaci.remove-this.com
>
> Only on the consumer desktop, my friend.
>
> And that desktop is only a small fraction (circa 10%) of the information
> technology world.
>
> To say otherwise is like saying sudoku players comprise the world of
> mathematics.
>
> As a small example, you can find cell phones or PDAs running Linux,
> Symbian, and Palm OS, in addition to some type of Windows.
There was a survey done a while back indicating most of the big IT
software revenue was being generated in the enterprise business space,
and Unix/Linux/Mainframes are really the dominant players there.
Windows certainly has its chunk of it, but it doesn't come close to the
dominance it has on the desktop. The workgroup and small to medium
business environments is still their strongest server market, and that
is still dwarfed by their desktop revenue.
Thad
yttrx
Ah, so you have none. It proves that you're a hypocritical little
pussy bitch.
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Wow, that right there pretty much validates everything I thought.
Kelsey Bjarnason
> After takin' a swig o' grog, DFS belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>>> The only time OpenOffice takes any time, anyway, is opening a large
>>> Word doc.
>>>
>>> It's a non-issue, really.
>>
>> It's a big issue for me. It's slow to load, and slow to run. Try whizzing
>> around in OO Calc like you can in Excel - it ain't happenin'.
>>
>> OpenOffice takes your computer back a whole generation. Turns a Corvette
>> into a Chevette. A Ho-Ho into a Ding-Dong. Windows into Linux.
>
> Whatever.
Indeed. If startup time of an app is too long, and you use the app *so*
often it is a problem, just leave the app running. You *cannot* improve
on the startup time of an app that's already running.
If DFS is so mentally challenged he can't grasp this simple concept, there
is no point in trying to argue with him; "whatever" is about the best
response you can give - and certainly all he's capable of comprehending.
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Winston Eisenhart
> That does *not* make me a
> windows user, as I don't do anything at all with windows, except
> writing software
>
> But then, I am not an incredibly stupid
> windows user
*LMAO*